Hillary dissis the troops again.
Earlier today I was listening to Shaun Hannity, which I do from time to time for about 3 minutes until he says something so idiotic, I have to turn him off. Today's idiotic statement went something like this, "Hillary has once again showed disrespect for the troops fighting in Iraq. She opposed the new spending bill that will give the president (however many billions) to keep the war going because it did not include a timetable for starting the withdrawal of troops in 9 months from now."
I am asking....no, I'm begging any intelligent right wing thinker to please connect the dots for me. Really, I'm at a loss for words here. How is wanting to get these kids out of harms way disrespecting them? The republicans have turned this whole ideology around and they need to be called on it! To them, supporting the troops is....Leaving them there indefinitely....Sending them in without the proper body armor....sending them in without a plan to immediately seal off the boarders to keep the Jihadist's from pouring into the country to kill our troops (Jihadist who became Jihadist because of our invasion into Iraq)....sending them to a war for which the reasons for going in the first place were based on faulty information and all out lies....breaking the rules of the Geneva Convention without regard as to how that would affect the treatment of our troops taken as prisoners....if this is what you call supporting the troops, I would hate to see what republicans would do if they were pissed at our troops!
So if we question suspicious motives, faulty war tactics, no bid contracts, tens of billions of dollars lost without any accountability or attempt to even try to account for what happened to it, the erosion of our constitutional rights, the suspension of Habeas Corpus, the use of torture, the lack of body armor for our kids, ask how long we might expect this half trillion dollar a year fiascal to continue, question why they set up a war commission to seek answers as to how to deal with the war and then ignore the answers because it's not what they wanted to hear, allow for no bid contracts, constantly change our reasons and motives for being there, if we question any of these things, we are not supporting the troops? How did this happen? How did we the people allow our government to brain wash our ideologies, practical reasoning skills, common sense, and patriotic duties to the point that black is white and white is black? We will pay a huge price for our ignorance and blind patriotism. The problem is, those of us who see and have spoken out all along are going to pay right along with the blind who allowed and supported our government thru out this whole dark affair. The many will pay for the sins of the few.
One last point...Bill Clinton did bomb Iraq. He, along with many other liberals at the time believed that Sadam had weapons of mass destruction. But he did not....what's the right words here...oh yea...HE DID NOT INVADE IRAQ! Clinton believed Sadam could be contained thru inspections and sanctions, which by the way, were obviously working. If Al Gore had been in the white house for the last seven years our national debt would be less than half of what it is now, we would still be respected in the world community, we would be doing something about global warming instead of debating if it's even happening, we would still have ALL of our constitutional rights, there would be 4,000 kids still alive that have died in Iraq, not to mention all of the limbs and eyeballs that would still be intact, and you republicans would be screaming about some trivial thing like the electric bill Al Gore runs up at his own house or the fuel his jet uses when he travels. And you right wingers think we should elect another republican president who will give us four more years of the same abuse we have been taking for the last seven years?
Now before any of you write back with any nonsense about fighting terrorist that want to kill my family, let me counter that in advance. We were justified to go to Afghanistan, I as well as most liberals, supported that (and we've blown it over there as well). We are justified to strengthen our boarders, check the ports more thoroughly, and even change the way we do business as usual with countries that support terrorism (like Saudi Arabia). But wait a sec....that was all in the 9-11 report, the one that Bush instigated and then brushed aside.
Comments
Joe,
When I read brilliant comments like this I am so proud to be a liberal American surrounded by people like you whom see and understand what is going on! Thank you! This was a wonderfully written post!
Joe's reply....Thank you Meagan, I appreciate your support more than you know!
Posted by: meagan dixon | December 20, 2007 02:46 PM
Well, Joe, most would consider me "right wing": pro-God, pro-Church, pro-family, pro-life, pro-property, pro-capital punishment, anti-feminist, anti-egalitarian, etc. And I believe Hilary is right on this issue. Because a stopped clock is right twice a day. The Iraq adventure is a disaster all the way around, and the sooner it is ended, the better.
Joe's reply....To me, Bush has been like a watch that runs out of time....never right!
Posted by: Jeff Culbreath | December 22, 2007 11:52 PM
War or not to WAR. That is the question. Had the U.S. Congress been something other than "isolationists" perhaps, remember the word perhaps, 40-80million people would have been sparred between 1936-1949.
Pres. Clinton did bomb. No boots on the ground(poll said "no smiles"). Without boots on the ground, nothing is fixed. The Balkans will remain an "explosion waiting to happen" for at least another 150yrs. The hate goes back 1000yrs. 250yr ago there was something that look reversed of 1993. What came first, the Chicken or the Egg?
Pres Clinton said "Democrats need to learn how to PROSOCUTE war". He is correct.
Defensive War preparation/planning (wait until they attack) will result in higher casualties than Offensive War planning. Sun Tzu said this. He also said "know your enemy" like the back of your hand. Iraq was a mess. War fighting is about killing. Politicians think "holding hands".
Iraq was 13 yr in the making. The pot was boiling. Pres.43-cowboy "I can fix this". All without a "politicians plan" after those that need killing were killed. There is not a Senator nor a Representative alive that understood "what is the plan after hostilities?" Democracy said YES, GO. Bunch of dummies. Except for 1 or 2 newbies, this same group is in Congress. Senator Clinton is one of these dummies. If she did not understand this then, she has no business wanting to be President Of The United States of America.
I think Senator Clinton is more interested in the glory of power, than in fixing difficult problems.
The great oceans protect us from surprise attack. 1800. Nukes have changed the complexion of diplomacy and the illusion of safety. If you blink, boom.
Posted by: freddym | January 17, 2008 07:00 AM