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April 25, 2006

Angry Voters Heard in Washington

As of today, President Bush has called upon the Federal Trade Commission and the D.O.J. to investigate possible price gouging, price fixing, manipulation and collusion within the oil industry.

"WASHINGTON - Responding to growing public frustration over soaring gasoline prices, President Bush called Tuesday for a nationwide investigation into possible price manipulation.

But even as he announced other steps intended to free up gasoline supplies, Bush warned that prices are likely to climb higher. On Capitol Hill, members of Congress called for more drastic action, including a new tax on oil profits or the possible breakup of big oil companies.

"Enough is enough. We have no competition," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., who hopes to spark a Senate debate on the structure of the oil industry." San Jose Mercury News.

Also joining the chorus for investigation over high pump prices is the Speaker of the Senate Bill Frist and Denny Hastert, Speaker of the House, plus both minority leaders.

Meanwhile in California, Gov. Arnie asked the Energy Commission to investigate any California oil businesses for possible price gouging, echoing the concerns and sentiments of Washington leaders. "We must not rule out the possibility of market manipulation, price gouging or unfair business practices employed by oil companies," Schwarzenegger said.

Rep. Joe L. Barton (R-Texas) called for a similar probe by the House Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee.

Investigations take a long time, so it could be months before we know what they turn up. In the past the investigations have produced little results, so don't be too optimistic.

Posted by Post Scripts at April 25, 2006 06:33 PM

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Nick, a pretty smart guy once said, "When everybody thinks alike, that just means somebody is not thinking." It's ok to disagree, but in fact we agree with most points here, if not all of them. I am fully aware of the risks involved when government "helps" and I share your concerns.

Posted by: Jack Lee at April 25, 2006 10:38 PM

Nick, I wish I had gotten the name but I read that a republican was also talking up the idea of added taxes.
I agree with you, I do not think any good will come of the government stepping in.
Politicians are always going to look out for #1 first, you and I are far off second. That's both GOP and DNC when it comes to money thay are the same animal.

Posted by: Toby Stahler at April 25, 2006 11:02 PM

You know, everyone wants to look at the top for the cause of the problem. Have you looked at the bottom? Have you ever noticed a gas station getting a delivery say on a Monday and before its next delivery of fuel, the gas in that tank has gone up 3,4, or even 5 times?
If price gouging means to jack up the price of gas just because you can, I would say the station is the first place to start looking for answers.

Posted by: Toby Stahler at April 26, 2006 05:22 AM

I don't have much confidence in a government investigation, especially since I used to be a government investigator. I even did an investigation of gas price fixing one time. When I presented the prosecutors with ample evidence of price fixing, since every station charged exactly the same price and raised prices on exactly the same day, they would not accept the case on the grounds that it may have just been a coincidence. They demanded a witness, preferably a station owner who would testify that he got together with a group of other owners every week and they agreed upon the price. I got so desperate that I argued for a case of false pricing. Have you noticed that every gas station advertises gas for $2.96 and 9/10 per gallon, or $2.97 and 9/10, whatever. There is always that 9/10 on the end of the price. Of course, the USA has no such denomination as 9/10 of a penny, so you cannot actually buy a gallon of gas for the advertised price, anywhere, ever. Needless to say, the prosecutors did not jump at that investigative theory either.

Posted by: DHB at April 26, 2006 01:35 PM

Maybe the question for the gas station owner isn't how much can I make today, but instead, how much must I make today so I can fill my tanks tomorrow. The station owner has price concerns too, as well as a budget that isn't determined by a single day or even a week. It's not wise to anger customers nor would it be wise to invite government examination, more regulation or a higher tax on gasoline. Profits are the "fuel" that companies use for expansion and growth. So how would gouging the consumer help oil companies or station owners? Also...

What is so unbelievable about the circumstances of higher demand (China), weather related shortages(multiple hurricanes affecting gulf drilling), blocked expansion of sources (new refineries and new drilling sites by environmentalists), formula changes and multiple formulations around the country, and the blocking of nuclear facilities. All of these contribute to higher gas prices in the long or short term.

Life is hard. We are involved in a war, we are recovering from weather and terror related catastrophies, and we have overcome a recession in the midst of all that turmoil. For heavens sake, compared to the WWII folks, we're sounding like ungrateful wimps!

Tina

Posted by: Tina at April 26, 2006 09:42 PM

Tina, yes, people are angry over the high price of fuel, but getting angry over things is often how change occurs, if it can be changed.

I think being angry over a perceived wrong is not wimpy; it's just the opposite. Of course, that doesn't make us right, only time will tell that, but at this moment there is reason to suspect something is fishy. The President agrees it looks suspicious, the head of the Senate thinks so and the head of Congress agrees and so do both minority leaders. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

Posted by: Jack Lee at April 27, 2006 07:33 AM

There you have it, I stand corrected. Thank you Tina, you are right. Things could be worse we could be French.

Posted by: Toby Stahler at April 27, 2006 08:54 AM

Toby, Great comeback...for me things are a bit worse, I am at least 1/4 French! But Grandpa was a Civil War Vet who fought for America and just happened to be French, so I guess I'm OK.

Tina

Posted by: Tina at April 27, 2006 07:50 PM

My absolute favorite idea is taxing profits...boy, that'll fix 'em!

The very people who will need the money to expand to produce more gasoline (if our esteemed politicians and the nutter citizenry would get out of the way and let it happen)would be required to hand the needed cash over instead to a government that already takes about half of every dollars worth now. The pols think we are that stupid...unfortunately, they may be accurate.

Tina

Posted by: Tina at April 27, 2006 07:59 PM

From a stockholder's point of view, I think these guys are worth every dime. I guess some people would be much happier if big oil were run into the ground and left in ruin. The name of their game after all is what's bad for America is good for the Left.

Posted by: Toby Stahler at April 28, 2006 01:32 PM

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