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There's a phrase in one of John Le Carre's novels that I am not allowed to forget: "... the economic subjugation of the masses is complete." The Russian mole in British Intelligence says it about America. He was wrong; it is ongoing. You'll note that it is Financial Services Industry lobbyists who put that fingerprinting thing into the bill, not our Congresspeople.

We very badly need to make it illegal for lobbyists to write legislation. Attorneys employed by our government (smart ones) should be writing the nation's legislation.

Wow, Libby, so insightful.

You know, I think I liked it back when our representatives wrote the legislation.

All do respect to your Wilsonian brand of Fabian socialism, but Ill just go ahead and keep getting fleeced by the greedy bourgeoisie rather than live in your socialist utopia, where you require me to give up my future for the promise of your version of mediocrity.

If you did a little research you might find that some of the most influential lobbyists in Washington are trial lawyers unions. Of course they only write legislation for the dems.

"... the economic subjugation of the masses is complete." The Russian mole in British Intelligence says it about America. He was wrong; it is ongoing.

Libby that is hilarious. You have been telling us for some time that you have personally avoided being subjugated by corporations and business. You don't own a car so BIG auto & BIG oil are not subjugating you in any way. I imagine there are any number of other areas of industry and service you also choose to eschew...BIG supermarket perhaps? How about BIG designer clothing, BIG tanning salon, BIG travel agent?

On the other hand I'd like to see you try that with BIG taxes or BIG regualtion and paperwork. Try avoiding an audit. God help you if OSHA comes to call if you are ever in business yourself.

subjugate

1. to bring under the yoke of power or dominion : conquer by force and compel to submit as a subject to the government of another

2 a : to force to submit to control and governance : make submissive or subject b : to bring or hold under strict control or into a subordinate position

Our own government is bad enough having been bloated up with law by liberal progressive over the years but your utopian dream would be a nightmare...

You can choose not to participate with industry...not so your government control freaks.

You'll note that it is Financial Services Industry lobbyists who put that fingerprinting thing into the bill, not our Congresspeople.

Now that's a responsible statement...those poor iddy biddy congresspeople just can't stand up to the big bad lobbyist...give me a large break!!

And by the way...attorneys have written nearly all of the legislation...and mostly progressive democrat attorneys.

My special interest, your special interest, what's the diff? I said that government employees acting on instruction from Congress people should be writing our legislation ... not lobbyists. You really think that's a bad idea?

And it's pointless to deny that this is going on. The "K Street" phenom is excruciatingly well documented ... and may Mr. DeLay never, ever get out from under his attorneys fees.

Websters' will catch up, cause the unhappy fact is we got a government subjugated by Exxon, among others.

Lobbyist writing law huh? You have any actual evidence that they sit down and pound out the bill on their personal laptop or are you speaking again of influence...

Or perhaps they are at times when they are asked for expert opinion...advice given so as to avoid making legislators look like fools. No legislator can possibly be expected to know what is and is not possible in the "oil" industry for instance...or the farming industry...or even the organic farm industry...or the health and safety industry...the healthcare industry...

Poor little government? Give me a break...what can Exxon do to the government?

Now quick...what can progressives in government do to the oil industry (and by association, the American people)...stay tuned, if Libby's side wins ecurrent reliable nergy sources will just disappear...and so will this blog. It takes energy to do this and a lot of other things you know.

"My special interest, your special interest, what's the diff? I said that government employees acting on instruction from Congress people should be writing our legislation ... not lobbyists. You really think that's a bad idea?"

Funny, thats not exactly what you said 1 post ago.

Of course history begins every 2 min. for liberals. Its like a crazy brand of amnesia and ADD rolled into one.

By the way Libby the "government employees" that do write legislation are called "staffers" and they are last time I checked "lawyers," quite often the so-called cream of the crop, hired by the congressperson for exactly that purpose. Reason? The ability to write in legaleze. There's your "smart ones."