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April 11, 2009

GM, IBM, Others Face Court Battles for Human Rights Abuses

Posted by Tina

“US court allows apartheid cases” – Al Jazeera

** A US court has ruled that victims of South Africa's apartheid-era government can sue General Motors, IBM and other corporations accused of complicity in human rights abuses. *** A federal judge in New York ruled on

Wednesday that joint actions against the corporations under a US law allowing rights claims from abroad should be addressed in a US court. *** Car-makers Ford and Daimler and defence firm Rheinmetall are the other companies set to face legal action from South African plaintiffs. *** Michael Hausfeld, one of the lawyers representing the South African plaintiffs, said the verdict was "a major advancement in international law" *** The lawsuits argue that the car-makers knew their vehicles were being used by South African forces to violently suppress protests. **

Posted by Post Scripts at April 11, 2009 3:11 PM

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The lawsuits argue that the car-makers knew their vehicles were being used by South African forces to violently suppress protests

Up next is those evil manufacturers of police baton sticks used to beat the protesters with. Then the manufacturers of the boots wore by the apartheid governments police who kicked the protesters. We also need to go after the manufacturers of the water hoses used when the police water vehicles shot the high powered water to back off the protesters.

I have only begun. We should all add to this list and send it to the lawyers who are representing these people. With any luck the list will get so big they can just do a class action lawsuit against anyone who practiced capitalism. After all, the very idea of capitalism is guilty for supporting anyone who made a product that might have been used by those who denied someones right to free assembly in South Africa, during all those years of apartheid.

YES! But that's only the beginning. Once the precedent is set anyone who gets a hangnail or cut while dressing to attend a protest will stand in line to sue.

Killing the golden goose by a thousand (or is it a million now) cuts?

Say good-bye to liberty...our friend Libby's dream of the Great Collective is only a hair's-breadth away.

"We are the world....."

---Tina---

"We are the world....."

Back in the early "70"s when the "Great Communicator" was still the governor of California, his motorcade was driving by a bunch of young students with signs that said "We Are the Future".

Reagen put a hand written sign in his window to them that said,

"Then I will sell my bonds."

I remember that...love the Gipper...miss him too.

Frivolous lawsuits come and go and this is one of them. I believe it's completely bogus. It would be a travesty if any court even heard the case.

Serious question for Tina, OneVike, Libby, Nick, Toby, Dan, Fred, Beagle, etc.,... do you think our courts will accept such a case for trial and the second part... should they?

I do not see the Supreme Court allowing this, and they shouldn't allow it.

That being said, all the left needs is one more lefty on the SCOTUS and they will probably allow such law suits to go forawrd. Fortunately for us, the only one even remotely close to leaving is Ginsberg. Can anyone honestly say Obama will actually find someone farther to the left or as stupid as her. So if and when she is replaced, the court will move to the right. Even if just a minuscule, it will still be to the right.

Speaking of the co-founder of the ACLU's Women's Rights Project, Ruth Bader Ginsburg brings new meaning to the saying, "Some people are educated beyond their intelligence".

The judge said, "That level of wilful blindness in the face of crimes in violation of the law of nations cannot defeat an otherwise clear showing of knowledge that the assistance IBM provided would directly and substantially support apartheid," she said.

Michael Hausfeld, one of the lawyers representing the South African plaintiffs, said the verdict was "a major advancement in international law".

I think this case is about wealth transfer; it's also a frontal attack on freedom and capitalism.

Jack, this particular US court has already ruled…the cases can go forward. I imagine the attorneys for the plaintiffs have already scoped out "friendly" courts.

Do I think they should go forward? No! The argument is similar to that used by anti-gun and anti-SUV people ….inanimate objects (products) are responsible; the human beings actually involved are just there by coincidence or as an aside.

Where would we draw the line. The perpetrators also may have worn hats or pants, they may have used cooking utensils, they may have read certain books…should the makers/publishers of these products also be held accountable?

Chuck, the Supremes have nothing to say about the cases at this point and would only be called upon to consider a case way down the road…long after the expense and burden of defense, and worse, possible conviction and penalty, has already been born.


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