by One Vike
Ever since Obama became a serious candidate for the Democrat ticket in "08", we have been deluged with various groups of people in America treating Obama like a celebrity. This is nothing new for Americans, after all we have seen different segments of our society display signs of idol worship for many celebrities from rock stars like Elvis Presley to sports heroes like Michael Jordan. However, we have never experienced the type of sycophantic worship for a politician like we see from the left for Obama. Oh sure the nation came together and cried when JFK was assassinated, but before his fateful trip to Dallas, he was not nearly as loved as the revisionist historians would have you believe. No, what we see from the left today is akin to the way Hitler was treated by those of the NAZI party or even the way emperors were considered gods in ancient Rome.
It is the deification of Obama that has many of us Americans scratching our collective heads in disbelief. Disbelief, because we have been flooded with video after video of school children being taught to sing songs of worship and praise to Obama. Children as young as preschool and as old as college students are involved in this emperor worship of Obama. It has reached the point that the left is not concerned that bloggers are exposing them, because they know that the MSM will never report it. So they continue their indoctrination of our children in public schools across America. Is it any wonder that a record number of parents have begun to either home school there children or spend the money needed to send them to private schools.
History has recorded what totalitarian governments like those of the old Soviet Union, Hitler's Germany, Castor's Cuba, and even Chavez's Argentina have done to force the children of their countries to worship their leaders. However, I must point out that America is the first major power I know of in modern history, other than Japan and Hirohito, to actually have a segment of it's population willingly worship its leader as a god like Obama is in this video.
I offer you two videos. The first video, has the words superimposed that were spoken by the one leading worship and those following with their praise to and prayer in the name of Obama.
What you just saw was a group of adults who have obviously decided that praying in the name of Obama is quite alright with them. With a priestess reading from some kind of prepared sermon, these community activists have no qualms about stating their love and devotion as they pray in the name of their god Obama. In a gathering of like-minded community activists, these people are practicing what is known in the religious world as an exhortation to give thanks to God for any particular mercies or future blessings. It is similar to the way the Israelites would reply with the phrase;
"For His mercy endures forever;"when a religious leader, most likely the High Priest read a stanza from Psalm 136. This is why I say that these activists are treating Obama like a god in the way they reply with phrases of worship to Obama. What this video showed should have sent shivers up the spine of every American who believes that the government has no business being in the religion business. I state it differently then just saying, "Separation of Church and State", as the leftist do because I believe, like the Constitution, that the government cannot establish a state run religion. What we are seeing here however, is the beginnings of a religion that is run by the state, especially when this religion's god is the President of the United States. We have a religious leader going on about the ills of society as she sees it, followed by others chanting praises and pleas to Obama to correct these ills.
The religious leaders and the followers who are doing this are all community activists involved with the Gamaliel Foundation of St. Louis Mo. So what we have here is a community activist organization worshiping as a god, one of their own who has become the president of the United States. Remind you of what happened in the Roman Empire when a man became emperor, and they then deified him by worshipping and praying to him as the "emperor god ". Here are a few excerpts from the video, for those who would rather not watch it;
Leader........
"Why then has the health of my poor people not been restored?"Street volunteers........
"Hear our cry Obama."Leader........
"With the prophet Martin Luther King, Jr., we cry out, "Of all the forms of inequality, injustice in health care is the most shocking and inhumane."Street volunteers........
"Hear our cry Obama."Leader........
"From greed and fear that replace the reality of God's abundance and the power of community with the myths of scarcity and isolation."Street volunteers........
"Deliver us Obama."
In this second video, you will see that the Gamaliel Foundation filed a complaint with the producers of the video. The Gamaliel officials claim that the followers were using the word God, not Obama. However after audio and video analysis experts studied the film using the same forensic techniques used in criminal investigations, they determined that the followers were indeed saying "Hear our cry Obama", and "Deliver us Obama". In the second video you will see the statement by the group who studied the film.
We all know that it has been stated by more than one court, that environmentalism as practiced by the left is a religion, and we have all become accustomed to seeing these wackos worshipping"Mother Earth". Well now we know that many on the left also treat health care as a religious objective and that they pray to their god Obama to correct the injustice. As I have said before, not since before Constantine made Christianity a legal religion, has a society willingly worshipped it's leader as a god. Key word here is willingly, no coercion involved here, these people are willingly praying to Obama to "deliver them" from the misery they call the American health care system. All hail Obama!
Right, can the real Kool-Aid be far behind? Grape or Strawberry?
At first upon reading and watching the video, I thought no way! But then on second thought... it is the cult of the false messiah exposed, whether you believe in religion or God or not it is exposed.
No one is going to try and convince me that these people are anything but a bunch of homeless freaks who will do anything for a free meal, even pretend to worship Obama.
So even if forensics proves they are saying Obama, so what? They got their free goodies, or food and now they are back on the street waiting for the next guy with a video to shoot for youtube.
I for one cannot wait for the healthcare to be free as it should be.
Go Obama!
Why are we so skeptical, perhaps he is God.
No really, that would tend to explain some of the inconsistencies with the universe.
Why do bad things happen to good people?
It's Obama’s fault.
“Deliver us Obama”
It is hard to believe that we have slid this far, this fast, but here we are only 8 months in.
I spent 17 of the best years of my life walking the flight decks of five different Aircraft Carriers so I just don’t scare easily, but I have never been so in fear for this Nation as I am now. This kind of behavior is not mindless, it is deliberate, and that’s what makes it all the more disturbing.
For the first time in my long life I am wondering if this coup of our government by Marxists will lead to an armed revolution.
Our country is disappearing before our eyes, and those who are stealing it are crazed lunatics.
I can't believe what I just heard. I can't believe what's happening. I am in shock.
These are not children. They are adults, literally worshipping Obama.
God help us all.
Liberals, race-baiters, post-American dreamers, have been looking for an enlightened commie to worship for years. They have wanted their very own demigod to lead them into a new age, and Obamao is the best they can produce.
After all the hype about liberal intellectualism, new ideas and the evolution of political correctness, Obamao comes along to show us how shallow these lunatics really are. Those of us who have been watching this dog and pony show develop over the years aren’t the least bit surprised.
When people lose their good sense about culture and liberty, about God and responsibility, paganism and lunacy follow. Celebrate oppression, because that is what we are getting.
It has been said that when you don't believe in the One true God, you will believe in anything, or anyone.
I was raised as a catholic, I have since become non-affiliated, but I do remember a few things about the kind of service I see on this tape. Being that it was patterned on a standard church service, it would have been written on the service bulletin. Now, they might have been decided on the fly to change it to Obama themselves, but that would tell them when to say deliver us and when to say hear our cry.
You know, as a Christian, even to say Obama pray for us would be vaguely acceptable, because we can and should pray for others to look to God in prayer. That being said, this is not what they are praying about. They are not asking that Obama pray to God for them, they are praying in the name of Obama.
That is the same as praying in the Name of Jesus. So no matter how you slice and dice it, to pray to or through Obama, is apostasy. So I pray there are no unwitting Christian who are present in that scene. For rhose who are not Christian, i pray they find the real Lord Jesus and ask Him for salvation. He is the One and Only One who can give it.
Barack Hussein Obama: Apostate in at least TWO religions.
This kind of cary stuff will really be Obama’s undoing. With our country 40/40/20 right now, the Democrats have lost 15 of that 20% gone and not coming back. 2010 looks like a disaster for the Dems, a blowout. We have to fight the battle of the bulge right now with this health care and then Paton the crap out of them next year. Make election night 2012 a soul crushing, incomprehensibly horrid night for Obama and his Nazi death cult.
After further review, I’ve come to the conclusion that the folks weren’t saying “deliver us, obama”, they were saying “deliver an obama”.
As a matter of fact, I’m going to the bathroom to deliver an obama as soon as I finish this by hitting submit,,,,,,I'm off to the john now.
Click!
I like that they hired a forensics expert. I seen this over a Month ago when it was first offered by Glen Beck. It was on Breitbart.com so I am glad they revisited it with proof that the Gamaliel groups were lying.
What is funny is the trombone player, he seems to stop and then the obama priestess raises the mic to start her cult chant, but the Bone player was just taking a breath and he starts back up. Too funny....LOL
EVEN if it were proved that said God instead of obama, the whole cultist thing is just plain creepy, and just can’t be ignored.
Good find Post Scripts
I want you to know that I am as rational and un-reactionary a person as anyone could be.
But I firmly believe that we should all think about protecting ourselves, stockpiling supplies, ammunition, water, getting completely out of debt in as much as it's possible.
And in saying that, I realize that I am sounding like people I used to laugh at. But our Republic is in serious danger. Our freedoms are disappearing. The people in control hate everything we stand for - our Constitution, our rights....everything. Add to that the vastly increased terrorist threat now that we have a "president" who could care less about it, and sympathizes with the enemy.
We need to be ready for any eventuality that might occur.
Gamaliel? That's a rather odd name for their foundation.
Gamaliel was one of the leading conservative teachers of the time, and also Paul’s mentor and teacher. He was not just one of seven Jewish leaders of Hillel's school of Rabbinic Religious thought of the day but he was also the grandson of Hillel himself. The school of Hillel, was the Leading conservative Law authority in the Sanhedrin of the 1st Century. In today's society he would have many levels of education that he would have attained and would be considered to have a Doctorate of sorts. So in today's world they would not just know of him as Rabbi Gamaliel, but also Dr. Gamaliel.
It seems as though they chose a conservative Lawyer to name their Foundation after, one would think these individuals would have used the name of some leading Liberal instructor of the time like Shammai, instead of this ultra conservative whom Paul was tutored under.
Waiting to hear about the connection though from someone who knows more than I....
OV, you have anymore information in the connection for me?
LOL! I am speechless.
Wasn’t Obama on the board of the Gamaliel Foundation with Bill Ayers? I believe Rezko also had some sort of connection to them as I recall. I remember their name coming up during the election.
So they must be looking to Obama as their Messiah, and Alynski is probably their god. I guess that would make Bill Ayers their John the Baptist?
So they are asking their Messiah (Obama) to intercede with their God (Alynski) to get him to intervene spiritually and miraculously to get the healthcare bill passed so they can all enter the promised land.
Do I have it about right?
"Scotty?"
"Yes Jim?"
"Beam me up."
"There does not seem...... to be... any intelligent life... on this planet!"
It may be just my ears, but after the 4th or 5th unison chant there seems to be one woman who says God. However- the rest all sound like Obama. There may have been a division in the room- some saying God, others, Obama.
Either way this is way too weird. It is definitely up there with the Jim Jones and David Koresh type of weirdness.
So I agree with you Ronnie, pass the Kool-Aid and poison.
I also agree with Larry that this kind of weird stuff will end up causing Obama to lose a lot of support. I live in SF, believe me, I know a lot of liberals. Say what you want about the fringes, but most of the main stream liberals really hate this kind of sycophantic adoration he is getting. They really find the whole religiosity of his followers to be scary.
I can see Hillary resigning and then challenging him for the party nomination in 2012, because this guy is going down quicker than the Titanic. If Obama fails to get HC passed, then she and her husband will point to this kind of stuff, and say it is his fault that healthcare died. They will then say that the party needs to come back to its senses and she is the person to do it.
Just my take, but I hear a lot of talk from my liberal friends and they are none too happy with what they are seeing.
Quote from Exodus (that's in The Hebrew Bible for those of you with a public school education)
20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Here is a flashback from a NRO written by Stanley Kurtz
What We Know About Obama
“Similarly, Obama’s “association” with Wright was far more than a mere pastor-parishioner - or even mentor-protege - relationship. Obama’s work with the Gamaliel Foundation required him to “organize” left-leaning churches into a larger political force. His real interest in Wright, Pfleger, and Meeks was to turn them into the nucleus of a far broader politicized coalition of radical black churches - as shown, for example, by his work with them on the Illinois racial-profiling bill. Again, we are not dealing with mere “associations,” but with intentional political partnerships.”
In the same way many of the members of Reverend Wright's church look to him as a prophet, many look to Obama as a prophet in the manner of Christ. Don't take my word for it, find a member of his church and start talking to them like I have.
These people are crazy scary, and Obama attended services there for 20 years. Nothing will gain you a loyal follower to the death like a religion, and when it comes to these extremists, Obama is the head of their cult.
I saw this sort of thing amongst many of the older members of my tribe when I was growing up on the reservation. The younger ones lost their zeal for the old gods when they found the true God, but some still exist today.
This is one Indian who sheds a tear when I pray. I shed a tear because America was a strong faithful follower of the True God, Jehovah, and my life along with many of my friends and relatives lives has been better. Now we are weak because we have lost our way and began worshiping the creation instead if the Creator like my ancestors did.
It is a true saying, that those who do not follow the One True God, will follow anything. My ancestors lost their way many many moons ago. Long before the white man came to America. That is why God allowed us to be destroyed. God will not be mocked, and America is becoming a Godless nation that worships many small gods, Obama is just one more. Like the Indian nations that ruled this land before the white man came, America's end is now is in sight because of this.
Get a clue Terry
It is VERY clear the main woman leading this Obamasim is a priestess and she is leading them in a prayer to 0bama. This is sick, and to think they are doing this with our tax dollars. And even if they receive no dollars per say, I am sure they are a tax exempt organization. So if they are a tax exempt group and they are involved in politics and religion, the IRS should be investigating them. Right?
After all, doesn't the IRS warn churches every election year not to get political by endorsing candidates and issues, or they could lose their tax exempt status?
Where is the ACLU when you need them?
Ok, I have to weigh in here, but I am still keeping my distance somewhat.
Thanks to Discover Networks, David Horowitz's Guide to the Political Left, I can tell you that the Gamaliel Foundation, which models its tactics after those of the radical Sixties activist Saul Alinsky, does a lot more than preach and screech.
“GF was established in 1968 to support the Contract Buyers League, an African American organization fighting to protect homeowners on Chicago’s West Side who had been discriminated against by banks and lending institutions.
“The Gamaliel Network receives much of its funding from the leftist group Catholic Campaign for Human Development (CCHD). Yet according to the Roman Catholic Faithful website, GF’s “goals and philosophies are at fundamental odds with Church teaching”. GF endorses “scriptural relativism” and encourage(s) a wide range of scriptural interpretations.
“The Gamaliel Foundation receives grants from the Bauman Family Foundation, the Public Welfare Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the W.K. Kellogg Foundation, the Ford Foundation, George Soros’s Open Society Institute, and others.”
Ahhh, follow the money people.
Because I do not think Obama (Zero) should be worshipped, here are just a few quotes from this so-called god.
"I think when you spread the wealth around it's good for everybody."
—Zero
"Americans are clinging to guns, religion and anti-immigration sentiment because they are bitter about Washington's unfulfilled economic promises."
—Zero
"I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."
—Zero
"At some point in the evening, a light is going to shine down and you will have an epiphany and you’ll say, ‘I have to vote for Barack.’"
—Zero
All Hail Obama! (LOL.. I love the way the article ended with that phrase)
This is truly sick stuff here.
Does anyone remember the scene in the move "Beneath The planet of the Apes", where the mutant humans are worshiping a "cobalt" bomb called "Alpha-Omega."?
You think these people are related to them?
Follow this link and you can see the 3 minute segment I am talking about on YouTube.
Bomb worshiping scene in "Beneath the Planet of the Apes"
I don't know what the big deal is.
“it’s not like saying he’s a god...but he is a person in power. a democratic leader who is supposed to respond to his people. and america is a very religious country where people often express themselves through religious metaphors. this is a kind of meld of the two things americans hold quite dear...democracy and religion. interesting, but not creepy, imo.”
The priestess in this video even puts Martin Luther King on the same level as Jeremiah by calling Luther a prophet also.
Is it just me or are these people in trouble with God on sooo many levels?
“it’s not like saying he’s a god...but he is a person in power. a democratic leader who is supposed to respond to his people. and america is a very religious country where people often express themselves through religious metaphor. this is a kind of meld of the two things americans hold quite dear...democracy and religion. interesting, but not creepy, imo.”
This is nothing like this, or anything like it, that has ever been done in this country before. It certainly has nothing to do with America's being a "religious country." Even the JFK groupies didn't pray to him.
If you don't find this creepy, dig deeper. This is not just "interesting." It is blasphemy, it is un-American, and it is dangerous at every level.
Dr, I found this on their website, maybe it will clear it up for you.
“The name “Gamaliel” refers to the Biblical wise man who was a teacher to St. Paul (see Acts 5:38-39; and Acts 22:3), whom Saul Alinsky considered to be the first great congregation-based organizer.” From Gamaliel website.
So it seems to be more about the organization skill Gamaliel exhibited, not his liberal or conservative leanings.
That being said, they are still off. I do not believe that Gamaliel was the first person to organize a congregation. That would have to be Moses, who did it 1600 years earlier. How can you miss a congregation of 2 million people in the desert that the whole of the land of Canaan was in fear of?
The Gamaliel Association is a Black Liberation Theology group of community organizers that worked with Obama before he went to Harvard. They actually helped Obama get into Harvard.
The name came from a man who they allege to have been the mentor to the young Saul(before his epiphany, and became Paul), a Sadducee. Gamaliel was supposed to have been a member of the Sanhedrin (governing body), who advised that they not continue to persecute the Christians because if Christianity were not of God, it would die out by itself.
The Sadducees did not believe in an after life, no heaven or hell, no soul, no angels, none of “that supernatural stuff” as Obama mentioned in one of his speeches. They are/were not Christians.
I agree Sue,
The first chant, "Hear our cry" is DEFINITELY "Obama."
Sounds like it's mixed with the "Deliver us" and some are saying God while others are saying Obama.
No one is getting 'snookered' here however. These people are having a worship service and praying to Obama.
I have listened to the utube version several times now on very good external speakers. What I hear is the first two times the crowd chants, they say "Hear our Cry, Obama". The remaining chants from the crowd are "Deliver us, O' God".
They seem to be praying to God for health care and asking Obozo to hear their cry.
If you listen carefully, there seems to be someone in the crowd who says Obama every time the crowd replies Deliver Us, O' God.
Gamaliel——only other time I’ve heard it-—the first name of ex-President Gamal Abdal Nasser of Egypt is Gamaliel. Gamaliel is the Greek form of the Hebrew name meaning “reward of God.”
Here is a great Op-Ed article from Canada Free Press by Katherine Thomas, that does great job at connecting the dots. Everyone who cares, should read the whole article titled “The Treachery Of America's Church Leaders”. well here is a small excerpt from the article that is pertinant to this video.
Last fall, some of the Gamaliel community organizers were overheard in a café talking about how they were anticipating the Obama stimulus package to pass. They wanted 100,000 more Gamaliel Foundation community organizers ‘ready to go’ - to march through more of our churches.
Can you imagine our next election process with so many new parasites crawling throughout our society, partaking in their ‘non-partisan’ plans?
Let’s recap what this group is really about: Their Internet homepage claims they are non-partisan, but their activities, agenda, and funding only prove that they are very partisan.
This foundation takes advantage of the churches to further an agenda that is anti-religion, as highlighted by their ACORN-like activities. Their goals are similar to ACORN, except they work in churches instead of neighborhoods.
They accept money from George Soros and other well-known leftist cronies to promote Marxism with stealth and deception. I call this a silent Marxist revolution aiming to destroy our freedoms by gaining control of another power center.
At this sight they have a longer version that goes 3:56 in length and at about 2:06 you can clearly here Obama.
This video is much better quality and it leaves no doubt that they are clearly chanting the words, Hear our cry, Obama!”
I would be happy to "err on the side of caution" if there were even a shred of doubt about what these people were chanting.
There's not. So I'm not erring. I'm shaken.
Atlas Shrugged has some great stuff on these groups called Obama and Gamaliel’s Freak Show: Faith Hijacking Strategy
This speech was by one of the Gamaliel leaders
A matter of note. Alinsky combined his organizing with Church leadership, hence the creation of Gamaliel. This is more than a little sick, this canonization of Obama to the level of sainthood. is fascism when the state is involved because the state and religion become one. Surrounding a charismatic leader like Hitler or in this case Obama.
This snippet is creepy beyond words.
I do not believe God is pleased by what he sees, and so God has put the nation in the hands of a man of mixed decent so no one can claim full ownership, a man of whom it can be said, trusts in the Lord God, who has held fast to the Lord and has not departed from following him. It can be said that before him there were none like him and, as far as we know, there may not be another. Reform is on his agenda: healthcare, education, immigration and economics. Bingo! There it is, unmistakeably the same language used to describe God and Christ. He is Gamaliel. He is African American. He is one of us. He is the 44th President of the United States of America! We are African American. We are Gamaliel. And we have to seize this opportunity of a lifetime in the lifetime of this opportunity. How long are we going to use racism as an excuse rather than using it as a catalyst?When are the clergy going to understand that there is no option for us but to work together? When are we going to realize that movements grow and victories come by way of coalitions, be it black-white, black-brown, or black-white-brown?
These people are beyond Pluto man, they are scary, and if you liberals do not wake up soon. You will find yourselves dealing with an entity that will make us hated conservatives look tame in comparison to what will happen to your 1st amendment rights and freedom.
Go to 2:06 in the video on this link that has a very clear audio version of the video, and you will hear what I hear. You can close your eyes, stand on your head backwards, and they are still saying Obama, not God!
And I am hearing Obama because they are SAYING Obama. The whole group is.
It doesn't matter what the high priestess is saying. The whole "congregation" is praying to Obama, and in Obama's name. Eventually it does begin to morph out and some of them start saying "God", but that is closer to the end and most of them are still very clearly chanting Obama!
I have very good ears and I know what I hear, anyone who does not hear Obama is not hearing it because they do not want to hear Obama. These are the same people who wish to see good in the Democrat party that is full of communists, fascists, and criminals.
Wake up people, this is serious.
I wish to add one more thing then I am finished with this. I fully expect that those in this video will deny that they worshiping Obama, but I know what I hear. The fact that they will LIE about it is irrelevant to making sure this gets out.
And it wasn't just one or two individuals btw. I suggest a hearing test to you and anyone else who cannot hear it clearly.
No more arguments about it from me. It is clear. I hear very well, I am a music teacher that has a very good reputation as to how my students learn by having me hear every little thing I can to make sure they are good.
Let me tell you something you little twit, what is going on in this country is serious. Do you really think the HC that will be provided to you will be what you need if you really need medical attention? Look at the citizens of the countries that have it now, they want out of it.
As for this worshiping of Obama, IT IS HUGE. It is more than a few homeless people getting free booze or drugs or food, it is logically thinking humans who actually work and have families that are worshiping him.
This is just another problem we face with these liberal socialists in charge. Because we also face with Iran, who is planning on annihilating Israel, Afghanistan who will fall backwards into tribalism control of the Taliban. All the while this god Obama is sacrificing our troops while the terrorists are emboldened and will surely strike us again.
What happened yesterday at Fort Hood is a small thing compared to what we are facing with this antichrist in Office. Our freedoms are being stripped from us, capitalism is being destroyed and our Constitution is being shredded. All the while the unborn are being slaughtered at OUR expense by the millions every year just in America alone.
This is not a minor side issue in the midst of more important issues. It is at the core of the disease that hit America in November, and it needs to be exposed. These people are worshiping the American hating Obama.
Maybe "a lot of us" are just more tuned into what this kind of adulation really means, and maybe you need to get your head out of those reality TV shows and start paying attention to what is going on around you before it's too late.
I'll tell you what little Missy. If this crap continues, you will be one of the millions of unemployed young adults who are looking in from the outside, chewing your gum, twirling your hair while mumbling the words,
"I don't get it. What happened?".
Exactly. It is a cult, and it is wrong.
And it is indicative of a deep spiritual disease in these people, and who knows how many of them are out there and how much influence they have?
We've had cults in this country before, but we've never had a Jim Jones or Sun Myung Moon sitting in the White House.
NOW we do, and we had better be alert as to all the ramifications of the situation we are in. Our future depends on it.
This is yet another piece in the entire picture of the cult of Obama. These are the people who brought him to Chicago. These are the people who got him started on the road to destroying this precious country we all love.
And they WORSHIP him above God, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and mock that God in this very video.
It needs to be circulated and talked about. Because it is oh SO WRONG.
Sue--"Say what you want about the fringes, but most of the main stream liberals really hate this kind of sycophantic adoration he is getting. They really find the whole religiosity of his followers to be scary."
Present! Thank you for acknowledging this, Sue, because I really hate when all liberals are lumped in with freaks like this. (And of course, all conservatives should not be lumped in with their fringe elements, either.)
I was born Christian, but have since become more or less agnostic. But this still deeply offends me, as it should offend ANYONE, no matter what their religious affiliation. I don't believe Obama himself has directly encouraged this, nor do I think it makes him happy. However, I do think he needs to make a public statement condemning this type of idol worship of him. He may think it bad for his political career to even mention these things, but I feel that given how often something like this has happened, he has a moral imperitave to do so. I also think it would be better for his image to publicly distance himself from such ridiculous and creepy behavior, but that is beside the point. I voted for Obama because I believed him to be someone who was more concerned with doing the right thing than with his political image. A dozen things he has done since then have proved me wrong, but I still have hope for him, and I still believe he is better for our country than McCain/Palin were. If only everyone could have such a moderate, rather than worshipful, view of the man.
I don't know what else to say.
Robin--"What happened yesterday at Fort Hood is a small thing compared to what we are facing with this antichrist in Office."
How dare you. The murder of twelve soldiers is not a "small thing" compared to ANYTHING, and it was completely wrong and unnecessary for you to trivialize such a horrible tragedy in such a way.
Do do do do, do do do do ...
Look, I did not say that to trivialize the tragedy, but if we do not get the spiritual aspect of the people in this country straight you are going to see a lot more things that will make the Fort Hood incident look trivial. Look at the way people look at 911 as if it were trivial. over 3000 dead and the President is not sure if this guy was involved with terrorism. Believe me, this guy should have been drummed out of the military there were so many red flags. If we are unable to call spade a spade, then believe me sister we have a lot more to worry about them some incident at and army base.
By the way I have a son who currently fighting In Afghanistan, his second tour, so do not think you know from my statement how I feel about those soldiers and their families. From reading your many comments on the war and all the terrorism in the world, you are the one who needs to apologize to me, because if liberals like you did hot turn on our military we would have had Iraq taken care of and terrorism around the world would he checked. Thanks to you lib-tards, the worlds terrorist are not afraid of us. Why do you think they still fight? It is because idiots like you voted for a god to change this country instead of a man who would protect this country.
Such a tempest over this tiny majority of people who "worship" Obama. I have seen one class from a couple of different angles from back in February--I have seen no proof that this is happening en masse.
Regardless.
Do you think Obama or anyone in his employ is orchestrating these demonstrations? For instance, at that elementary school; did Obama cause this? Or, was this the act of a single, solitary teacher.
(I suppose an accountant might calculate the cost to the taxpayers, but the accountant would probably cost more.)
How many instances are there?
How many are legitimate?
You folks on the Right have been fooled before--as has the Left. Many of the videos look like street performances to me.
Can anybody prove these are even real? If so, how many people are involved? Can we prove a link to the Obama administration? Is the law being broken?
Robin--"Look, I did not say that to trivialize the tragedy, but if we do not get the spiritual aspect of the people in this country straight you are going to see a lot more things that will make the Fort Hood incident look trivial. Look at the way people look at 911 as if it were trivial."
What? Who are these people? I haven't met anyone or even heard of anyone ever treating 9/11 as "trivial."
"over 3000 dead and the President is not sure if this guy was involved with terrorism. Believe me, this guy should have been drummed out of the military there were so many red flags. If we are unable to call spade a spade, then believe me sister we have a lot more to worry about them some incident at and army base."
I do agree that Hasan should have been taken out of the military a long time ago because of his comments. But that's precisely because this event was so huge and tragic, and could have been avoided.
"By the way I have a son who currently fighting In Afghanistan, his second tour, so do not think you know from my statement how I feel about those soldiers and their families."
I am sorry. I hope your son comes back safely. But this is even more reason you should think about the implications of your words before you say them.
"From reading your many comments on the war and all the terrorism in the world, you are the one who needs to apologize to me, because if liberals like you did hot turn on our military"
Please show me where I have ever made a comment that could be construed as me turning on the military.
"we would have had Iraq taken care of and terrorism around the world would he checked."
This is extremely naive. Terrorism has survived in one form or another forever, whether conservatives or democrats were in power. You can argue that the problem would be less than it is now, but not that it would be completely taken care of.
"Thanks to you lib-tards, the worlds terrorist are not afraid of us. Why do you think they still fight? It is because idiots like you voted for a god to change this country instead of a man who would protect this country."
Again, this is desperately naive. Terrorists are a committed lot. The problem with Al-Qaeda is that they almost seem to have no fear--they will fight for their beliefs even if they have to die for them. Which would be honorable if their beliefs were not so sick, destructive, hateful, and evil. That a conservative president could change this is not only ridiculous, but demonstrably false.
Quentin ... I was much more succinct. 43 posts in a frenzy over, yet another, handful of nutcakes.
Can you people find NOTHING more constructive to to?