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August 29, 2007

Rebuttal to Jack on SB 924

by Darryl House

This bill is exactly the opposite of an attempt to subvert the authority of the executive branch.

It is an attempt to rein in that branch as it has exceeded its authority.

Public criticism of the government is also a time-honored tradition.

The public has already dismissed any argument that criticism of our political or military leadership somehow disrespects or harms our troops as disingenuous at best. I would call it outright nonsense.

The war was, and remains, a tragic mistake. Our only recourse is to stop wasting lives and money and withdraw immediately.


Posted by Post Scripts at August 29, 2007 07:59 AM

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First, if you missed it please see the article I wrote about SB 924 and then read Tina's comments in response to Mr. House.

I have posted Mr. House's comments on page one because they represent the views of a significant number of people.

We try to be fair here at Post Scripts!

Posted by: Jack Lee at August 29, 2007 08:04 AM

It is an attempt to rein in that branch as it has exceeded its authority.

I'm not a Constitutional scholar but I know of a few that would most heartily tell you that you are flat out wrong on this one. So this is at the very least an opinion not born of fact.

Our representatives in Congress have not taken similar action on this issue and that should tell you they know they don't have a legal leg to stand on. The fact that they blather on about it to their constituency should tell you the whole conversation is for them purely political. They would toss the reputation of the country and our military personel in the dumper just for their own selfish political ambitions...pathetic.

Public criticism of the government is also a time-honored tradition.

Support of ones country is a time-honored tradition.

The left is into a time-honored tradition that I find despicable...deliberately working to bring down a president. They have been relentless and viscious since Nixon and often with questionable cause. Questionable in particular from the standpoint that they do not hold the same standards for any democrat president...just the opposition. This is not behavior based on principle or moral highground...it is political thuggery.

The public has already dismissed any argument that criticism of our political or military leadership somehow disrespects or harms our troops as disingenuous at best. I would call it outright nonsense.

I totally disagree. There are many in America who find this behavior and attitude (including in our media) disrespectful, hateful, opportunistic, political and destructive.

If you want to know the real measure of harm try asking the troops who do not appreciate it at all...perhaps better still ask the leaders of our enemies who applaud you as weak and easy to manipulate...as duped allies in their war against the West.

The war was, and remains, a tragic mistake. Our only recourse is to stop wasting lives and money and withdraw immediately.

You are entitled to this opinion. Would you kindly run it by our enemies and see what they have to say. Ahmadinejad, for one, would be filled with glee by your suggestion. He said today he would be more than happy to fill the void of our waning "political power." Leaving Iraq before it is stable would bring a bloodbath of epic proportions...just like Vietnam and Cambodia.

This American stands firmly behind our president and the men and women of our military who have invested so much...and not just in blood, but in heart and soul. They have not grunted it out in conditions of heat and wind and sand and sleeplessness just to be told, "sorry...never mind...nothing you have done matters now." They believe that people everywhere deserve to be free and they put their butts on the line to back up that belief. They have realised that free people, people in democratic societies, do not wage war against one another and so democracy in Iraq would be a major factor in moving the region toward freedom and democracy...a great benefit to America and all freedom loving people. They believe in the mission and all they ask is that we put our full weight of support behind them you. By comparison that ain't much to ask.

They, you see, believe in honor. They have given their word just as America has given her word. They aim to complete the mission.

What message does your position send to the world? It would be nice if we could wave a magic wand and make everyone peace loving and kind. This is, however, the real world where sometimes blood must be shed to push dangerously, murderously, committed fanatics back into their holes. Your message is...ah well, boys will be boys. I say men of courage and honor do not put up with that behavior from other men. They do not stand by and let the bullies of the world take over. If you cannot stomach that you can at least support those who are willing.

Posted by: Tina Grazier at August 29, 2007 08:05 AM

I think it's a great idea, but why stop there? How about attaching a poll to the ballot asking voters whether they approve of allowing the President of the United States to receive bj's from his intern in the Oval Office? How about a poll asking whether they approve of his wife covering for him?

Posted by: Dan at August 29, 2007 11:46 AM

"The public has already dismissed any argument that criticism of our political or military leadership somehow disrespects or harms our troops as disingenuous at best. I would call it outright nonsense."

This statement alone shows how delusional people of your mindset have become. I'm part of the public; I can watch a direct correlation between the politically driven criticism of our military, by our government officials and an increase in activity by our enemies. Not only does this activity hurt our military men and women, it hurts our allies.

Our enemies and our allies alike are watching to see if we have the stomach to do what we need to do. And you are so eager to show them, that YOU don't. Well, what have you had to sacrifice for this war? Were you drafted? Do you have someone close serving?

Since I know the answer to the first question is no. If the answer to the second is yes, how do they feel? Have they been deployed? Are they against the war?

People like you will not realize how ill-advised the path you are taking is, until we are dealing with IED's on our roadsides and suicide bombers in our shopping malls.

I know you will dismiss me as some rightwing whack job. But I base my position on a study of this enemy's tactics in other countries, which they oppose. What do you base your's on?

You, and too many like you have learned nothing from the past, and are obviously, unwilling to learn anything about the present enemy, their tactics and their goals in this war.

Posted by: John F. at August 29, 2007 01:46 PM

Oh, and Mr. House, the majority of Americans know, inherently, that criticizing the military, while they are engaged with an enemy, when you have no idea of what you are talking about, is by definition un patriotic!

Posted by: John F. at August 29, 2007 08:12 PM

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