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February 27, 2008

We Like Being Fooled By Obama

Posted by Jack

Enthralled by nothing in particular: “If you’ve never been to an Obama rally before, a word of advice, go early. Think Springsteen concerts, but the tickets are free. First come, first serve. In Boise, Idaho, a few weeks back it couldn’t have been more than 15 degrees out. But outside Taco Bell Arena early on a Saturday morning, everyone waited patiently because inside— inside, they felt the warm glow of hope.” —ABC’s David Wright “I’m in the demographic where everyone I know among my friends is in love with Obama... It’s kind of like being 13 and seeing Shawn Cassidy and we’re all just on board... So we’re not embarrassed when we get together. We just talk about how much we love Obama. ... We know we’re being fooled, but we kind of like it. I can’t get off his ride, it’s too good.” —Los Angeles Times columnist Joel Stein

Posted by Post Scripts at February 27, 2008 09:31 PM

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“I’m in the demographic where everyone I know among my friends is in love with Obama... It’s kind of like being 13 and seeing Shawn Cassidy and we’re all just on board

Actually this guy makes perfect sense...it's easy to capture the teenage imagination with fluff, glitter and the promise of peace, hope...and a bright tomorrow. Wave a wand and it's done. Many, many adults are still there.

I doubt that all of Obama's "followers" know they're being fooled...you have to have something to base that on, some idea of the possible or probable. They don't...change and hope, hope and change it's all they know or care about.

Posted by: Tina at February 27, 2008 09:58 PM

Obama's style of campaigning represents a fundamental flaw in our electoral process.

His manner of populism is what the ancients warned democracies posterity about.

A candidate who unabashedly offers prosperity, equality, hope etc. by governmental decree.

He speaks nothing of personal responsibility or genuine justice. He is not interested in these things, because he is attempting to appeal to an electorate, to which he is convinced is not interested in such realities.

How did it come to this? Where a man unashamedly espouses an economic policy which directly threatens our economic and political freedoms, to the sound of thunderous applause?

Make no mistake, modern liberalism has no love for our Constitution, or our Founders. If they could get away with outspoken contempt for the Constitution they would gladly do so. They maintain a outward appearance of solemn reverence for tradition sake, but their policies suggest they dream of a day when they will no longer be bound by such a reactionary and antiquated document.

How one could believe that political freedom is worthwhile without economic freedom defies logic.

Modern Liberalism would have us cast a vote for our masters and call it liberty,


Posted by: Nick Freitas at February 28, 2008 12:05 AM

You guys talk about this stuff in such clinical ways, am I the only one freaked out that one of these three frauds will be President? I don't even know who would be the best of a bad lot. Some input would be very welcome.

Posted by: Toby at February 28, 2008 01:44 AM

Toby you are not alne..."freaked out" describes a lot of your fellow citizens. Unfortunately the reality in this election is that none of our choices give us cause to be inspired or enthused.

Once we get down to the two candidates the real battle will begin. I don't know about Jack but I have not gotten too serious about issues yet because we are already getting pretty sick of the long cycle...and all the hype and shenanigans. The candidates haven't been very specific for the most part but instead are posturing and pandering.

I've been trying to give a heads up about the shenanigans for now. The "drive-by's are pushing an agenda. The most telling indication that they do this is their coverage of the dem race. Hillary has received mostly negative reporting and Obama has seen the media gush...Chris Mathews on the edge of pornographic meltdown with tingling up his leg and all.

Help us out Toby...what are your three top concerns? Jack and I will do our best to tackle comparisons based on what the candidates say and what that might mean for our country.

Posted by: Tina at February 28, 2008 09:25 AM

How one could believe that political freedom is worthwhile without economic freedom defies logic.

Nick, I don't know if you read "The American Spectator" (the magagazine). The March issue has a great article "Freedom and Property" which addresses this issue from the point of view of the importance of ownership. People that don't have a stake in freedom are more likely vote their freedoms away. This goes to your point that onl property owners should have the vote. Another way to approach it is to make sure Americans do have a stake in America.

Education has failed in this area. Of all the things we need to learn, economics and the founding principles are at the top. They are so important to being a productive, responsible adult. Even basic knowledge would lend support to whatever endeavor a person aspires, from artists and performers to businessmen and farmers, to cashiers and caregivers, we all need to have a basic understanding of these things.

There's a whole lot of work to do. Wouldn't it be great if people started putting aside grand schemes to "make a difference" and just started making a difference in their own circle?


Posted by: Tina at February 28, 2008 09:50 AM

Toby:

I will be voting for McCain...reluctantly.

I admire his military service, but he gets my vote in large part for 1 distinct reason.

I will not play brinkmanship with my countries future. And allowing Hillary or Obama to be elected while not offering the stiffest of opposition assumes a gamble I am simply not comfortable with. I respect those who have made a principled stance, and decided to oppose McCain, but I simply cannot bring myself to abandon the War in Iraq in the immediate, for a hope, that a failed Obama or Hillary presidency would usher in a new era of conservative/libertarian leadership based on close observance of the Constitution and our founding principles.

I have fought as best I can, and unsuccessfully in this primary, toward a traditional conservative. I am left with McCain or 2 candidates who represent the most intellectually bankrupt and historically ignorant of the democratic party. I choose McCain. And I urge others to do so as well.


Tina...

Education IS key, which is why I will be working very hard to ensure that my kids go to a private school, and that their education is supplemented by my wife and myself.

Making a difference in your own circle is key! But at the same time we cannot surrender an inch of ground in the larger debate, or circle as it were.

I do want to make one point, I am not advocating that ONLY property owners should have the vote.

I do believe that voting should be valued above handing it out to anyone who makes it to the age of 18.

Things such as property ownership, military service, and taxation should play a greater role in how suffrage is distributed.

And while I understand that such an idea is almost unthinkable, and would surely meet with outcries from a vast majority of the population, I think the idea merits discussion.

Posted by: Nick Freitas at February 28, 2008 11:44 AM

Well Said Nick. Like you I don't think we should surrender any ground. I fight for greater ground every day and that's what inspires me to write on this blog.

Glad you clarified your position on voting. I want to assure everyone I did not mean to imply that you would deny people voting rights and should have remembered that your ideas about voting include more than just property ownership. I think it merits discussion as well.

I choose McCain with the same reluctance and will begin to highlight the valid differences in the two final candidates soon.

All imput from our readers will be welcomed, even highlighted as well. Jack and I enjoy placing your thoughts out in front on occassion.

Posted by: Tina at February 28, 2008 02:19 PM

It looks like we are all on the same page.

Posted by: Toby at March 3, 2008 10:29 AM

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