In The News – Ukraine and Iraq

Posted by Jack

UPDATED NEWS:

SA11Malaysian Airliner shot down by Russian missile. “There’s a build-up of extraordinary circumstantial evidence,” Secretary of State John Kerry said yesterday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” program. “We picked up the imagery of this launch. We know the trajectory. We know where it came from. We know the timing.”

Putin confronts worldwide scorn just as the U.S. and its allies were trying to push him into a corner over the annexation of Crimea and his support for pro-Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine. The U.S. and Europe tightened sanctions last week, and U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron told Putin on a call yesterday that the attack was “totally unacceptable,” his office said in a statement.

“Russia risks becoming a pariah state if it does not behave properly,” U.K. Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said yesterday in an interview on Sky News. “We now need to use the sense of outrage that is clear to get a further round of sanctions tightening against Russia.”

More Sanctions: Cameron said earlier yesterday that he agreed with his French and German counterparts that Europe should be ready to impose further sanctions on Russia at a meeting July 22. END

NOTE: It takes about 26 weeks of intense training to be able to operate the Russian made SA11 missile system. It’s also a mechanic’s nightmare and is very prone to breakdown. Experts say the missile system virtually requires a technician to be on hand for repairs at all time in addition to it’s operators tracking aircraft and launching missiles. Experts say there is no way this captured Ukrainian SA11 weapon system could be operated by rebel farmer, that it is almost a certainty that it was operated by Russian soldiers. If you notice in the new footage every time you see these so-called masked rebels they look extremely fit, they carry their weapons in military fashion, they wear Russian uniforms and handle themselves in all ways as you would expect highly trained Russian soldier to behave. Obviously these guys are not the rebels, they’re Russian special forces and they have been keeping the Ukrainian military from coming in and wiping out the small band of true rebels, that and the Russian divisions sitting on the border.

IRAQ: Jul 19th the outskirts of Baghdad was hit by captured long range artillery, followed by attacks overnight in two Iraqi cities killed at least 16 people, officials said Monday as authorities struggle to stop the Sunni militants’ offensive that has left huge areas in northern and western Iraq outside of government control.

In one of the attacks, mortar rounds rained down on Shiite neighborhoods in the town of Mahmoudiya on Sunday night, killing 11 civilians and wounding 31, a police official said. The mixed Shiite-Sunni town is about 20 miles south of Baghdad.

And in Baghdad’s western suburb of Abu Ghraib, a roadside bomb struck an army patrol, killing two soldiers and three volunteers who took up arms following the Sunni militant push across Iraq in recent weeks. Eighth people were wounded in that attack, said the police official.

Two medical officials confirmed the casualty figures. All officials spoke on condition of anonymity as they were not authorized to talk to media.

On Friday, the U.S. mission in Iraq said at least 5,576 civilians were killed and another 11,665 wounded in the first six months of this year. Another 1.2 million people have been uprooted from their homes by the violence.

The civilian deaths so far this year mark a sharp increase over the previous year, when just over 7,800 civilians killed, according to the U.N. END

Note: The general sentiment is that Saddam may have been a brutal dictator, but at least he maintain security and firm control over radical Sunnis and Shiites. International experts say the staggering loss of life, internal corruption, government ineptitude and most recently an all out civil war has imposed more misery on the Iraqi people than was ever done under Saddam Hussein. Iraq is now at risk of fracturing into several countries with at the largest portion becoming a rogue state controlled by Muslim terrorists. Iraqi’s blame the US for this tragedy and claim the breakdown in their security began when the US captured Bagdad and had no clue how what to do next.

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9 Responses to In The News – Ukraine and Iraq

  1. Pie Guevara says:

    Two narcissistic cult leaders are in a face off. One an inept boob, the other a master manipulator. Who will prevail, Obama or Putin?

    If I were in Ukraine, I would be thinking about what Obama’s policy of abandonment has wrought in Iraq.

  2. Soaps says:

    Putin better be careful or Obama and Kerry will issue a stern warning.

  3. RHT447 says:

    I don’t claim that my crystal ball works any better than someone else’s, but this airliner shoot down sure dovetails nicely as smoke screen for the invasion on our southern border.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnkSXosZhic

  4. RHT447 says:

    Here’s another question–At the time of the shoot down, was internet available aboard the airliner? If so, what if anything, was transmitted over social media?

  5. Tina says:

    Here’s another wrinkle on the situation in Ukraine, something Rush talked about back in March:

    I mentioned yesterday that Bill Clinton in 1994 (and then the Obama administration in 2009, reaffirmed it) gave official diplomatic assurances to Ukraine that their borders would be safe in exchange for the Ukrainians gutting their army and completely doing away with their sizable nuclear deterrent.

    This has not been reported other than the UK Daily Mail has now published an article that reminds us that that wasn’t all Obama did for Ukraine. But the point is… Because the media isn’t telling you, I want to stress this again. As you’re watching what happened, as you watch us act outraged that Putin would do this, there were the number of signatories to this agreement. The UK, John Major and the Ukrainian prime minister. It was Boris Yeltsin for the Russian Federation, and Bill Clinton, and there was the ChiCom leader.

    There were five of them, and they signed. They promised. They promised Ukraine that their borders would not be attacked, that their sovereignty would not be challenged, and that they would be considered for admission to the European Union. There was all this stuff dangling carrots if they would just gut their army and do away with their nuclear deterrent — and Ukraine did. That agreement was reaffirmed in 2009 by Barack Obama.

    So the Ukrainians cannot defend themselves against this encroachment by Russia, which is a violation of that agreement, by the way.

    BREAK TRANSCRIPT

    RUSH: I want to close the loop on this Ukraine thing, get into the IRS, and then come back to Ukraine with more details on what’s happening. But just to remind you, ’cause I think this is huge. I think Ukraine bought it hook, line, and sinker. They gave up their military. They had a nuclear arsenal. They gave it up in exchange for a promise that their borders would not be invaded and their sovereignty would remain intact.

    Putin wasn’t a signatory, but Boris Yeltsin was, and he signed for the Russian Federation, which is still the governing body before Putin puts the Soviet Union back together. It was Bill Clinton that got the whole thing started, and this whole thing was reaffirmed in 2009. Now, the UK Daily Mail today adds information to this. Their headline is: “Flashback: Senator Obama Pushed Bill That Helped Destroy More Than 15,000 TONS of Ammunition, 400,000 Small Arms and 1,000 Anti-Aircraft Missiles in Ukraine.”

    In addition to the gutting of the military and getting rid of the nukes, it was Obama as a senator who pushed legislation that further weakened Ukraine. From the article: “As a US senator, Barack Obama won $48 million in federal funding to help Ukraine destroy thousands of tons of guns and ammunition — weapons which are now unavailable to the Ukrainian army as it faces down Russian President Vladimir Putin during his invasion of Crimea.”

    Because they don’t really have an army, not much of one. They gutted it. They didn’t get rid of it; they just gutted it — all on the assurance, reaffirmed again in 2009 by Obama. Obama reassured them. This was as president. It was as a senator that he engaged in legislation that further weakened them. In 2009 he reaffirmed, “Don’t worry, we will protect you — and so will the ChiComs, and so will the UK, and the Russians have promised that they will not invade you.” (continues).

    Disarming, yes?

    (My apologies – this comment was originally wrongly attributed to PS, otherwise known as Jack)

  6. Pie Guevara says:

    I agree with what George Will said on Fox News Sunday 2014/07/20 —

    “What we really need is lethal aid for the Ukrainians to win the war that is being waged to dismember their country.”

    Full Statement —

    GEORGE WILL, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST: Well, when the plane was first shot down, the first reaction was that this marked a new threshold in international anarchy, because a non-state actor, meaning the insurgents, the Russian insurgents in the eastern Ukraine, have brought down from perhaps 33,000 feet a commercial aircraft.

    But there’s no meaningful sense, Chris, in which these insurgents are non-state actors. They are appendages of the Russian government supplied by them and, for all we know, directed by them. So, in that sense, there’s a gap between the president’s rhetoric and what it is reasonable to infer about this. The president’s reaction is what we need is a cease-fire. What we really need is lethal aid for the Ukrainians to win the war that is being waged to dismember their country.

  7. Post Scripts says:

    The media and UN seem obsessed with an investigation. Why? We know who did it. We know where the missile was fired from and who had control of the region. We know who was the only party that possessed the technical skill to use this weapon system. The plane was shot down by Russia obviously and somebody needs to held accountable. This was about as serious as it gets. Russia stands alone, is all of Europe and America afraid to retaliate in a manner befitting the provocation?

  8. Tina says:

    “…is all of Europe and America afraid to retaliate in a manner befitting the provocation?”

    Good question although I hear it as more of a retort. This is a pointed question for the US since we talked them into disarming and promised to keep their borders safe…then reneged on missile defense in the region that would have acted both as deterrent and to protect their borders.

    The whole world has to believe that America cannot be counted on to act or keep her word. I am thoroughly disgusted…again.

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