Solar Hot Water

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We have been exploring the idea of getting a solar hot water heater for our home. Getting all of the facts to make an informed decision on this has not been an easy task. Here is what our thought process has been:

--The system that we are looking at costs about $3,900, installed. We would use it in conjunction with our present hot water heater. I have been told that there is a Federal Tax Credit available that will account for 30% of this, which could potentially knock $1170 off the price, bringing it down to $2,730.

--Various websites estimate a 50% - 80% savings on hot water expenses by installing a solar hot water heater. It is unclear whether they are talking about solar hot water heaters used in conjunction with gas storage, electric storage, or on-demand gas or on-demand electric hot water heating units.

--We presently have a 50 gallon gas hot water tank. It is about 5 years old. Literature on the heater says that it uses 258 therms/year (based, I presume, on the hot water needs of the average household). This comes to 21.5 therms/month.

--A close look at ur PG&E bills shows that, when you take winter heating out of the equation (gas), we use a total of 8-12 therms/month for heating water and cooking on our gas range.

--According the U.S. Department of Energy, hot water heating accounts for 15.5% of residential energy use, while cooking accounts for 4.5%, though this does not delineate between gas and electric. Most of our cooking is done via our gas range, though some uses the electric microwave and the electric oven.

Here's where things get sketchy. Using the Department of Energy statistics, I might ballpark that we use in 9 therms/month for hot water heating, which would mean that we are more than twice as efficient with our hot water heater as the average American household.

That seems a bit surprising, but plausible. Much of our laundry is done on cold cycles, our showers are short, baths are few, and the temperature of the hot water heater is set to "warm" rather than on the highest setting.

And then there are some X-factors to consider:

--Readers of this blog know that our family is growing, which will result in increased hot water use.

--The cost of natural gas will continue to rise, but it is hard to predict how quickly.

--On the flip side, our 50-year-old pipes were recently updated from metal to PEX (polyethylene, i.e. plastic), which should improve our ability to use hot water more efficiently in the upcoming years. Previously, the cool metal pipes absorbed much of the heat from the water prior to it actually coming out tap. This resulted in as much as a minute or more of waiting around for the water to warm up.

So let's say that over the next few years we use 10 therms/month for hot water heating, at a rate of $20/month.

Being conservative, if the solar hot water heater cuts this by 50%, then we would save $120/year on hot water heating. With these figures, the $2730 system (including tax credit) would pay for itself in about 23 years. If our heating costs are cut by 80%, then this number is reduced to just over 12 years. For comparison, most websites cite 4 - 8 years as the time it would take for a solar hot water heater to pay for itself.

So, will we be moving forward with installing a solar hot water heater?

The answer is not at this time.

In short, there are just too many unknowns, and at almost three grand, this is not "low-hanging fruit." First of all, I think it will be helpful to gain more data in the form of another year's worth of PG&E bills to see what effect having a baby and having new pipes has. Perhaps we can even do a test to determine more scientifically how much gas we use on an average day to heat water.

But the biggest unknown is the system itself. How, exactly, does the system work? How much will we need to alter our water-use style in order to gain the most from it? Just because most people see 50% - 80% reductions in the cost of heating water doesn't necessarily mean that we will--Most people, it seems, use more than twice as much gas as we do for heating water. And finally, have we truly exhausted the simple, more budget-minded strategies of using hot water efficiently?

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Perhaps an instant water heater?
Also, for getting good numbers to crunch, I use "More Other Homes & Garbage," published by the Sierra Club--I believe.

Replacing the existing hot water heater with an on-demand heater is very likely in the future, but the question is when. Our present, perfectly functional hot water heater is only five years old and we seem to be doing a pretty good job using it efficiently; ditching it now would be a tough call. The idea of on-demand in conjunction with solar is also something to consider.

Was the energy of the production of the solar system itself taken into account? Often times, such things are not taken into account by consumers, especially in the case of the Pruis, when it is speculated by some to have more emissions occur during its production than its projected lifetime.

Always a good point to consider. I have not yet researched the energy costs of producing the units, it would be neat to compare the energy it takes to produce solar unit, an on-demand unit, and a traditional gas-heated tank.

50 gallons is a pretty big hot water tank. Do you really use that much hot water daily?

Our hot water heater is 30 gal and we have never run out of hot water. When I was a kid our family of 6 had 30 gals, but we did fight over the first shower.

I doubt if 40% reduction in tank size will save as much, but I wonder if a combo system of solar feeding your existing system would still save gas/electric enough and still provide enough hot water for a growing family with a smaller, 30 gal storage tank.

$3k sounds like a lot for a simple solar system. I am sure you can do it by yourself for a lot cheaper, but maybe without the bells and whistles.

It would be interesting to see how tankless water heaters compare to 50 gal traditional water heater.

Tank-less hot water is a hard choice to make.
The weaknesses of tank-less heaters are:
You need to use soft water to make them last. Scale build up is very bad for them. Check the hardness level of your incoming water and the recommendations in your owners manual. Hard water will void the warranty.
If you shower is on the other end of the house, hot water isn't instant. You will get cold water for a lot longer time than a tank system. The system waists a lot of water.
But it's strong point is very strong, uses less energy.

Chico's water does tend to be on the hard side. Also, from what I understand tankless systems do better in small houses or apartments, they really don't do as well when you plan on moving hot water over significant distances. Multiple smaller units would be better in this case.

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