Californian’s be proud, the citizens of LA passed Measure B to mandate condoms for porn stars. That’s right, the professional fornicators will be required by law to wear a condom while working. Can you hear the radio call… “Attention Car 54, illegal fornication in progress at studio C…” Ah, it’s a wonderful liberal state isn’t it?
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And while our law enforcement officers are busting naked exabitionist performers in studio C the robber down the street will have a liitle more space to commit his crime..its a win win.
I can already hear the counter argument from the progressive tools who frequent these pages, “If it saves one life, it is worth it.”
Those condoms will be supplied free of charge by the government, right? Rightly they should be boldly stamped “Government Issue.”
Of course this directly conflicts with the ban of plastic grocery bags in Los Angeles. For some reason sea turtles choking on discarded condoms did not enter into the discussion.
I don’t think this is a left-v-right issue. In fact, porn issues in general tend to not fit neatly into party ideologies. On the right, you have libertarians against government interference, and you have your socially conservative prudes who want porn outlawed. On the left, you have your “free love” liberals who believe porn can be empowering and prostitution should be legalized, and you have your radical feminists who believe porn should be outlawed.
I’m somewhere in the middle in regards to porn issues as a whole, but I think this particular law is nuts (er…pun not intended.) I think it totally violates freedom of choice, and I can’t believe it passed. It never should have been on the ballot in the first place. Even taking safety concerns into consideration, porn actors are probably having safer sex than the general population; they are constantly tested. I understand that porn does glamorize condom-free sex, but it is still up to adults to choose whether they want to emulate that or not. The government has no business mandating this. So at least, on this one, we can agree.
“Socially conservative prudes”, you gotta love the juvenile bigotry and prejudice jam packed into that phrase.
Here is something far more interesting in the academic feminauseous social/cultural/political arena. (That is to say “interesting” as in snore.)
http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/mcelroy_17_4.html
Uh oh, now the condom is really going to hit the fan —
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/11/07/porn-producers-threaten-to-leave-la-county-after-passage-of-measure-b/
Maybe we should apply the Law to the new Sacramento Legislate. Based on the new make up percentages we the tax payers are about to be …… Well you know the rest. Kiss Kiss
“”Socially conservative prudes”, you gotta love the juvenile bigotry and prejudice jam packed into that phrase.”
Jeez, you’re so PC when you want to be. I also made fun of “free love” hippies and radical feminists. I don’t know how you can read “bigotry” into calling people who want to ban porn “prudes,” especially when you routinely call liberals far worse things (“vile scum” comes to mind) in your comments. Quit looking for things to pretend to be offended about in my comments and take the log out of your own eye first.
Harold…When it comes to protection, the best place for a condom is stretched over a liberal’s head. It should be mandatory before we let them into the capitol, just to keep the rest of us safe.
Chris: “Even taking safety concerns into consideration, porn actors are probably having safer sex than the general population; they are constantly tested. I understand that porn does glamorize condom-free sex, but it is still up to adults to choose whether they want to emulate that or not. The government has no business mandating this.”
What good information! Let’s see if I’m getting the hang of progressive thought.
Porn actors are safer because they are tested but the young adults who watch it aren’t necessarily safe since condom-free sex is glamorized and sends a mixed message about safe sex but that’s okay because government poking its nose into private concerns is bad so it’s worth the risk…but if government intrusion has to do with private wealth then it’s the common good that is important and government can poke all it wants…but porn makes a ton of money, hey, here’s an idea, maybe government should levy a special tax for the right to portray condom-free sex in their product. We should make them fill out a form similar to the sales tax report using an arbitrary percentage, subject to change, to determine the tax due.
Obamcare is the law of the land and will lead to universal healthcare so who cares? As Nancy Pelosi said we will all have “health” now! And government will soon pick up the tab because universal healthcare is the ultimate goal…a bonus! Certainly any religiously based moral component must be discouraged so none of this matters anyway…does it? In fact, does anything matter anymore? As members, or future members, of the great entitlement society, we’ll all be just fine, right? Our progressive friends will have to tell me for sure if I have this straight…I’m still on the learning curve.
My bad. The above should have read “Socially conservative prudes”, you gotta love the juvenile bigotry, mindless stereotype, and thoughtless prejudice jam packed into that phrase.
Yep, that nails it down nicely.
Dear Tina and Jack et. al.,
I am wondering …
Will there be more LA county officers lining up for the condom inspection squad or will there be more filing sexual harassment in the workplace lawsuits by being assigned to that duty?
Sincerely,
A Socially Conservative Prude
My guess is they will have a big unit, no pun intended, that will do surprise inspections. Maybe they will work like SWAT and break in thru windows or drop from skylights.
Re: “My guess is they will have a big unit, no pun intended, that will do surprise inspections. Maybe they will work like SWAT and break in thru windows or drop from skylights.”
Now THERE is a TV crime drama concept that deserves to be run up the flag pole — CSI LA (Condom SWAT Investigation, Los Angeles)
STOP…you two…you’re killin me!
I wanted to be the socially conservative prude. Perhaps I could be the bigoted Christian neanderthal with latent anti-feminist traitorous tendencies?
Please, someone explain to me what good it does to test them weekly? They have sex every day! By the time the weekly testing rolls around, they could have infected everyone in their industry. Not that I would be heart broken, but it just makes no sense. Good riddance to the whole industry, enjoy Vegas, don’t write, don’t call, don’t visit and don’t come back!
I don’t understand the hostile response I’ve gotten for *agreeing* with you people.
Tina: “but if government intrusion has to do with private wealth then it’s the common good that is important and government can poke all it wants…”
The federal government has the right and the responsibility to tax its citizens. This is not a radical new concept.
“but porn makes a ton of money, hey, here’s an idea, maybe government should levy a special tax for the right to portray condom-free sex in their product.”
I think that would still be really dumb, but maybe not as dumb as the all-out ban.
I maintain that it is not even close to “bigoted” or “prejudiced” to call someone a prude. Especially since I wasn’t talking about all social conservatives, but those who specifically want to ban porn.
Chris: “The federal government has the right and the responsibility to tax its citizens. This is not a radical new concept.”
The federal government is the servant of the people…we used to understand that in America. The federal government, under the Constitution, has the authority to defend the nation and handle certain types of legal matters. That is its only responsibility. Then some progressives with power started shifting things around and since Woodrow Wilson we have been making the federal government our master…then you wonderful peoplem put the biggest progressive ever in the White House. He brought with him the power of millions of people with their hands out who favor a federal government that takes care of them. You put inn place another entitlement that will ensure America is forever changed. It is no longer a “shining city on a hill” that freedom seeking people all over the world look to as the “last best hope” for mankind. We have chosen instead the socialist model of dictators and tyrants and modern governments that dictate how life will be, how business will be run, what business will survive and what businesses should fail. Welcome to your brave new world Chris. You did not learn about your heritage and so you have no problem flushing it down the toilet for handouts and perks. You won…we lost, congratulations.
“I think that would still be really dumb…”
That’s because you are young. You have no idea how far up all of o0ur a**es the government is already…and we ain’t seen nothing yet! You don’t know about regulations; you may never know because instead of business you will be involved in education and you’ve already been indoctrinated to accept then socialist model as normal. Freedom is but an old song played on old instruments by balding old white guys. Liberty is a molding concept that should be stricken from the lexicon.
Sorry Gwen, I lay claim to The Socially Conservative Prude byline even though I shamelessly stole it from a silly progressive detractor. Add to that The Economically Conservative Prude and it may be that I have found my true niche!
Nevertheless, I herewith freely license both monikers to anyone who wants to use them as an identifier. The more of us, the better! I can imagine a vast army of Socially and Economically Conservative Prudes joyfully marching arm in arm.
As always best wishes to Gwen, The Socially Conservative Prude. 😀
Tina: “You don’t know about regulations; you may never know because instead of business you will be involved in education and you’ve already been indoctrinated to accept then socialist model as normal. Freedom is but an old song played on old instruments by balding old white guys. Liberty is a molding concept that should be stricken from the lexicon.”
Oh, lord. This election is making you even more melodramatic than usual. Taxation (with representation) and responsible regulations are not enemies of freedom, Tina.
I think Tina pretty much nailed it to the door on that one. Too bad it falls on a deaf ear.
Chris, try to set aside your strong prejudice and think about this…if taxation with representation is so burdensome that it compromises our free enterprise to the extent that its very survival is in question against the competition not so incumbered, then that government is as evil as any totalitarian regime the crushes freedom. -jack
Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic. Benjamin Franklin
Expressions of a love of freedom, of respect for the individual, of appreciation for the good fortune to be born here in America is now considered “melodrama”.
We have, indeed, lost the republic.
Apologies to Benjamin Franklin who gave so much, and risked so much, that we might have and enjoy a free, lawful space, in which to live and flourish.
Birthday wishes, with gratitude, to the United States Marine Corp:
http://blog.heritage.org/2012/11/10/happy-237th-birthday-to-the-u-s-marine-corps/
Jack: “Chris, try to set aside your strong prejudice”
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” –Inigo Montoya, “The Princess Bride”
Jack: “if taxation with representation is so burdensome that it compromises our free enterprise to the extent that its very survival is in question against the competition not so incumbered”
Thankfully, we’re nowhere near that point. Tax rates on the rich are at historic lows. If our capitalist system was able to sustain a 90% + tax rate on upper income earners during WWII, I think they can stand a 38% tax rate today.
It’s true that corporate tax rates are, on paper, relatively high compared to other countries. But the effective tax rate is much lower, according to ThinkProgress:
“U.S. corporate taxes that were actually paid (the effective rate) fell to a 40 year low of 12.1 percent in fiscal year 2011, despite corporate profits rebounding to their pre-Great Recession heights. The U.S. both taxes its corporations less and raises less in revenue from corporate taxes than its foreign competitors…
…Politicos Ben White also pointed out that Japan has a value added tax, so it isnt actually true that the U.S. will have the highest corporate tax rate on Sunday. As billionaire investor Warren Buffett has said, it is a myth that U.S. corporate taxes are high. Corporate taxes are not strangling American competitiveness, Buffett added.
Of course, it is theoretically possible to lower the U.S. corporate income tax rate while simultaneously raising revenue to help reduce the federal deficit by closing loopholes and cracking down on tax havens. But Republicans have absolutely no interest in that.”
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/03/30/456005/reminder-corporate-taxes-very-low/
It doesn’t make sense to call for lower tax rates on corporations, when corporate profits are at an all-time high, effective corporate taxes are at an all-time low, and the poor are getting poorer. It just does not make sense.
Interestingly, President Obama has actually proposed a compromise: a large cut in corporate tax rates, while closing loop holes and penalizing corporations that move jobs overseas.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/23/us-usa-tax-corporate-idUSTRE81K25N20120223
To be fair, Romney has also called for closing loop holes, but when asked which ones he would close, he refused to say. He also has shown no interest in challenging outsourcing or offshore tax havens, which isn’t surprising, given that Romney has benefitted from these practices.
One has to wonder if Ben Franklin’s words apply to the extreme amount of corporate welfare we are seeing today.
Interesting article on measure B, General Petraeus, and the American way regarding sex:
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/11/11/americas-addled-puritanism/
Chris you won so I’m sure everything you say is absolutely correct. I do have some questions:
“Tax rates on the rich are at historic lows”
While this may be true the circumstances in the world and in our country are not. Have you considered these differences?
“But the effective tax rate is much lower, according to ThinkProgress…”
http://www.forbes.com/2011/04/13/ge-exxon-walmart-apple-business-washington-corporate-taxes.html
Do you think thinkprogress looked at all of the extenuating circumstances? Do you think they included in their research all of the smaller corporations that don’t have tax lawyers at their disposal? There are legitimate reasons that corporations sometimes pay lower effective rates of tax but somehow I doubt that almost four straight years of losses, like my little corporation has ENDURED makes much difference to the smarter people at thinkprogress. I think thinkprogress is political, progressively political, and I think they will do and say anything to advance the cause of progressivism (not America)…but hell you guys won and you have all the answers, right?
I know you don’t trust Heritage but I would appreciate your looking at this article from Nov. 2011 which contains a chart and the following observation:
http://blog.heritage.org/2011/09/25/chart-of-the-week-u-s-rivals-japan-for-worlds-highest-corporate-tax-rate/
“But Republicans have absolutely no interest in that.”
Not true. Republicans have been attempting to pass legislation that would simplify the tax code since at least the 1980’s. We worked with democrats inn the 1980’s to simplify the code.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Reform_Act_of_1986
I urge you to read the short biography of Dick Army who now leads Freedomworks. His proposal was a tax system that would make paying taxes a matter of writing a check after filing a post card…how’s that for simplifying the code. He also worked with high powered democrats while in office:
http://www.freedomworks.org/about/chairman-dick-armey
Army now runs FreedomWorks, an organization that stands for freedom and smaller government. The organization supports the Tea Party. It isn’t conservatives that have become more extreme, Chris. The Democrat Party has shifted extremely left since the 1990’s putting radical progressives in power.
“…but when asked which ones he would close, he refused to say…”
Because he was being honest. He knew it would have to be negotiated in Congress and both the press and democrats would use whatever he said against him both before and after the election if he won.
Obama made a lot of specific promises during his hope and change tour…how many did he keep? How many of the failed promises got a lot of very negative press? Romney had to run against Obama AND a progressive press that was out to destroy his bid for the presidency from the start. Obama has had two election cycles with the press in full support.
More information to chew on from Forbes, “The Dirty Little Secret of Tax Reform”:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/janetnovack/2011/07/28/the-dirty-little-secret-of-tax-reform/
But hey…you guys won and we will have four more years to test progressive policy to see how well it works to bring about a thriving economy and jobs, jobs, jobs.