by Jack
There is not a day that goes by that some blood thirsty Muslim organization doesn’t make the headlines for an offense against humanity. That’s right, I said against humanity, not just against Americans or some third world women or little boys in Afghanistan, but against everything we hold as a universal morality. What exactly does that mean? In short, it is the moral sum of mankind that sets that standard and what is shocking to collective conscience of all humankind.
Such as charge can’t be made lightly. It requires a doctrine of hate. It requires widespread, repeated and directed criminal conduct in order to rise to an offense against humanity.
That’s a high hurdle, even for the worlds worst despots, but radical Muslims around the world seem determined to violate this subhuman moral standard. Their pervsity includes bus and train bombings, plane hijackings, mass destruction, genocidal attacks in a number of African countries, and human rights abuses from The Western Sahara to Iran and beyond. These Muslims like Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Jamiat-ul-Mujahideen, Al-Umar-Mujahideen, Ansar al-Islam, Army of Islam, to name but a few of hundreds dedicated to murder. As groups and as individuals they are actively engaged in murder of women, non-combatants, slavery, torture, kidnapping, beheadings, stoning’s and all forms of vile terrorism in the name of God, even child rape. It’s a religious abomination contrasted against a mostly enlightened world. That means there be no justification, no moral equivalency and no escape from accountability, in this world or beyond, for their crimes.
The latest story of their religious insanity begins just hours ago after a Sudanese court sentenced the wife of one Daniel Wani to death for her faith. His wife Meriam Yehya Ibrahim is pregnant with their second child and now she is to be hanged because she refused recant her Christian faith!
“I’m so frustrated. I don’t know what to do,” Daniel Wani told CNN news on Thursday. “I’m just praying.” The charges of apostasy are absurd no matter what the pretext may be, but in this case the charge of apostasy doesn’t even meet the test of Sharia law, another stain upon humanity. This woman was abandoned by her Muslim father when she was only six years old. Her mother was a Christian and raised her as a Christian. She was not a Muslim and she did not renounce the Muslim faith, she is and has been a Christian her entire life. The Roman tribunals deciding the fate of Christians ended 1700 years ago. The modern world holds that it’s an inalienable right to have religious freedom and don’t slaughter people over their faith. Yet, here it is. A group of educated men of law conspired to charge this woman with this unholy capitol offense. It’s almost unimaginable, but it shouldn’t be by now, because we are reminded of the shocking, cold blooded, barbarity of fanatical Muslims every day in some country.
This week a Khartoum court convicted 27 year old Meriam Yehya Ibrahim, 27, of apostasy, or the renunciation of the Muslim faith and this carries a sentence of death by hanging. However, the court also convicted her of adultery and sentenced her to 100 lashes because her marriage to a Christian man is considered void under Sharia law. The court gave her until next Thursday to recant her Christian faith — something she steadfastly refuses to do.
A high sheikh told the Khartoum court “how dangerous a crime like this is to Islam and the Islamic community,” said attorney Mohamed Jar Elnabi, who’s representing Ibrahim. “I am a Christian,” Ibrahim fired back, “and I will remain a Christian.”
Ibrahim, is eight months’ pregnant, remains in prison with her 20-month-old son. “She is very strong and very firm. She is very clear that she is a Christian and that she will get out one day,” her lawyer told CNN news from Sudan.
This isn’t the first such case to be heard in Khartoum. Last year a young woman, possibly 17 or 18, was sentenced to be stoned to death for adultery. She admitted to the charges only after her brother repeatedly beat her. The conviction was based solely rests on this forced confession. The man held with her reportedly denied the charges and he was simply… released.
The day is long past when the world should have demanded justice. These fanatics should be dealt with like the cancer that they are. But, the collective conscience of the world takes time to awaken and rise to the challenge. When it does, and it surely will, these vermin will be held accountable for their crimes. They will be hunted down like the mad dogs they are and eliminated because nothing short of death will ever stop them. You know it and I know it, but it will take more time and it will cost many more lives until the world knows it.
Right now the Imams of this religion hold the keys to peace or war, because they set the standards by which the world will judge Muslims and if they fail to do their holy duty, the world will ultimately do it for them. Until that day everyone who claims to be a civilized human being is obliged to at least speak out against these psychopaths and demand they stop or face their extinction.
“These fanatics should be dealt with like the cancer that they are.”
Jack, we have fanatics of our own. And you cannot make people evolve. They will, or they won’t … in their own time.
And we can’t fix everything. You gotta learn to chill, dude.
And you might want to consider that perhaps you are making use of “the heinous Muslims” for purposes of your own … that won’t bear close examination … Mr. I-Don’t-Want-To-Pay-For-Healthcare-For-Brown-Three-Year-Olds.
Libby, there comes a time when good people must stand up to evil. For decades in America our left has had no trouble calling people to action for any number of things that are far short of genocide ad practiced by Muslims. But, if a conservative should say, it a moral outrage and we shouldn’t tolerate this evil, liberals are the first play devils advocate, even when its a call to action for human rights, gay rights, and women’s rights. I don’t get it….it’s depressing.
“Libby, there comes a time when good people must stand up to evil.”
And what would you call your, shall we say, strong reaction to the idea that Hispanic legislators should propose the funding of healthcare for ALL the brown three-year-olds on our premises?
Certainly selfish, and quite possibly evil. Evil a lot closer to home, and requiring our attention, and remediation.
The Sudanese must see to their own affairs, and they are … not in very impressive numbers, as yet … but they are.
And the silence from the non-fanatical Muslims remains deafening.
Re #1 Libby :
Yep, the only way to deal with fanatics is to chill, dude.
I am beginning to think Blame The Victim Libby is an invention.
Pie, we love Libby because she underscores why we do what we do. And because of that, there are times when commenters suspicion that Libby is some sort of fictional character created by us or someone on the right to dramatize extreme leftist thinking. But, I can assure you that Libby is for real. She is 100% the product of her own world and she is the perfect spokesperson to let us know the thinking of the far left. Libby has been nothing short of a Godsend for PS and has helped us in ways we never could have achieved on our own. Libby is one of our most valued contributors…then again, so are you, but for entirely different reasons! ; )
Where are all the loud mouths claiming to be against the “War on Women” movement?
Where is Michelle Obama holding up a sign saying, “#Save Ibrahim from hanging?”
I tire of self-righteous harpies and progressive milquetoasts expressing outrage.
Jack your take on this situation is right on the money and, since history repeats…
The Christian Crusades were the inevitable result/response to centuries long Muslim incursions (religious crusades) to conquer and convert. These wars for power and control began at the founding of the Muslim religion in the early 600’s and continued against Jews, Christians and polytheists alike until 1095 when the Pope declared his own crusade. It has resurfaced today. The big difference is the urgency may prove to be rather great…they now have access to a nuclear solution.
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if peace could just envelope us all? Sure…but I don’t see the fanatics who are dedicated to the founding methods, principles and goals turning away from their deadly serious intention to take over control. They believe peace will only come under their barbaric laws and rule.
Chill? Talking isn’t panic unless you choose to hear it as such. Then its your problem. Those who don’t mind looking at the possibilities, even the probabilities, and can do so without panicking are the only ones capable of an appropriate plan to defend, when necessary. In fact the result of the appeasing non-panickers is something we are experiencing now. The Middle East in chaos with radical extremists gaining in power, flexing their muscles, and playing the appeasing world as suckers:
“J. Soden :
And the silence from the non-fanatical Muslims remains deafening.”
J. Soden, specifically which Muslim groups or leaders would you like to hear from? Do you know of any?
There are in fact many Muslim groups and leaders that have spoken out against the fanatics. It’s possible you haven’t heard from them because they don’t get a whole lot of media attention. But they’re easy to find if you look for them.
Peggy :
“Where are all the loud mouths claiming to be against the “War on Women” movement?
Where is Michelle Obama holding up a sign saying, “#Save Ibrahim from hanging?””
You realize that Michelle Obama is currently leading the #BringBackOurGirls campaign, which is raising awareness about the kidnapping of over 200 girls in Nigeria by radical Islamist group Boko Haram?
And you realize that she’s gotten nothing but shit on by the conservative babblesphere for doing so?
So what exactly is it that you want, Peggy? Should Michelle Obama personally speak out against every single injustice in the Muslim world? Or should she speak out against none of them lest she be mocked for doing so?
Oh, wait, I know what it is you want: to hate on the Obama administration and the left no matter WHAT they do. If that means complaining about them speaking out against a radical Islamist group one day and complaining about them not speaking out enough the next, you’re more than willing to do that. Your complaints don’t have to be in any way logically consistent with one another, as long as the overall message is “the left is bad.”
Evidently both Chris and Michelle Obama think that the Twitter hashtag #BringBackOurGirls is effective policy.
Have you hugged a Muslim today?
Pie Guevara: “Evidently both Chris and Michelle Obama think that the Twitter hashtag #BringBackOurGirls is effective policy.”
Since neither Michelle Obama nor myself are responsible for setting policy, your attempt at snark fails. Michelle is doing what she can to raise awareness in support of victims of Islamic terrorism. In other words, doing exactly what you and other conservatives constantly tell liberals we should be doing all the time.
Either you generally believe that people should speak out against Islamic terrorism and support the first lady’s efforts, or you are simply using the “Why don’t liberals talk more about Islamic terrorism?!” line as a cudgel, and you oppose the first lady’s efforts because they don’t fit into your narrative of PC Liberals Who Won’t Shut Up About Conservative Bigotry But Never Say Anything About Islamic Terrorists.
“Have you hugged a Muslim today?”
Actually, last time I saw my friend Maryam was Easter. She made the goose and her son joined the Easter Egg Hunt. I hugged them both then.
Do you know any Muslims personally, Pie?
Chris need I remind you of the hate you heaped on George Bush? How you loved to pile on! The man did not deserve the level of hatred and venom he received from left activists and media; he served the entire nation with dignity and honor. You may not have agreed with his policies but without the slightest trepidation you reveled with the hard left in the criticism. So you’ll excuse me if I don’t give a rip that you think we are “hating” on Obama.
As for the power of the First Lady, she has a pulpit…
US Embassy, Kabul – First Lady Laura Bush advocates for Afghan women
Washington Post – “Afghan women’s gains are at risk,” by Laura Bush, Published: November 14, 2013
You Tube – Laura Bush on Women’s Rights in Afghanistan (C-SPAN)
First Lady Laura Bush was a powerful voice for freedom and rights and continues in her work today…without public fanfare or seeking social media flash.
Michelle Obama’s effort…
I think had she been trained in something other than community organizing and divisive politics First Lady Michelle Obama could have been a powerful voice for freedom in the Middle East and the world and for women of all races and creeds everywhere.
Chris how can you be so dense? If you’d take off those progressive/Democrat colored glasses you’d realize why conservatives believe you all are hypocrites that talk out of both sides of your mouths at the same time.
Democrats say they support gay rights, yet they also support the Islamic/Muslim faith that kills them. Which is it? Can’t be both.
Democrats say they support women’s rights, but have been silent about the way Muslim women are treated and the atrocities they’ve suffered here in the US and in other countries.
Where has Obama been since he’s been in office? His silence is deafening? Michelle hold up a sign for the stolen girls, but where is her sign and Obama’s voice about this Christian mother of a 20 month old who will be whipped 100 times before being hanged?
Her child is with her in jail, because her husband is a Christian. The authorities won’t even let him have his own child. And when the baby is born neither will be returned to him. What will happen to them Chris? Who will care for them? Their own father will never see them again.
I ask you Chris, where are the voices speaking out for this Sudan woman, her children and her husband?
Would anyone speak out now if she was a US citizen? What about 10 years from now? Would Obama and Michelle? I think not. Individuals in England are just now speaking up, but Sharia Laws are already being integrated into their judicial system.
Where has Obama and our State Dept. been for Saeed Abedini who has been imprisoned in Iran since Sept. 2012.
Why has Obama’s State Department left an American pastor behind in Iran?:
By Jay Sekulow, March 15, 2013
“On Monday, March 11, at a crucial moment, the State Department turned its back on an American pastor imprisoned in Iran.
In September of last year, Saeed Abedini – a U.S. citizen from Idaho – was arrested by Iran’s jihadist Revolutionary Guard when he was in Tehran helping build an orphanage. He was tortured, tried, convicted, and sentenced to eight years in Iran’s most brutal prison simply because of his Christian faith.
In other words, he’s an American hostage.
By refusing to petition for Pastor Saeed’s release before the UN Human Rights Council, our State Department acted like a lawyer who advocates for his client on the courthouse steps but won’t say anything at all to the judge.
Yet as welcome as those comments were, none of them were directly addressed to the Iranian regime. Because we long ago broke off diplomatic relations with Iran, American opportunities to speak to Iran are rare.
But in Geneva this week, just such an opportunity arose. On Monday, the United Nations Human Rights Council held meetings that directly addressed the human rights crisis in Iran. Before the meeting, the ACLJ launched a petition calling for international intervention on Pastor Saeed’s behalf, and more than 425,000 people from the U.S. and across the world signed in the weeks leading up the meetings.
The international community responded.
The Report of the U.N. Special Rapporteur on human rights in Iran mentioned Pastor Saeed by name.
The Council permitted our ACLJ affiliate, the European Centre for Law and Justice, to address the Council on Pastor Saeed’s behalf twice.
Australia spoke out for Pastor Saeed.
Critically, the European Union – representing collectively the largest economic entity in the world — called for Pastor Saeed’s release by name:
“We deplore the systematic harassment of members of religious minorities. We call on the Iranian authorities to refrain from such practices and to ensure respect for freedom of religion and belief. We call for the immediate release of prisoners of conscience, including Pastors Behnam Irani, Farshid Fathi and Saeed Abedini and the leaders of the Baha ́i community.”
Roughly five minutes after the EU presentation – after a strong international statement on behalf of a U.S. citizen – it was the U.S. representative’s turn at the microphone. Here is what the United States said about its imprisoned and tortured citizen, Pastor Saeed. I quote in full:
. . .
Nothing.
The U.S. said nothing about Pastor Saeed. Not one word. Yes, we condemned human rights abuses in Iran, and yes we even mentioned an Iranian blogger by name. But an American citizen? Imprisoned by the Revolutionary Guard? Nothing. No comment.
Yes, the Obama State Department has called for his release from the podium here at home – a brief statement only in response to inquiries from reporters. A White House spokesman made a similar statement in an answer to media inquiries. However, by refusing to petition for Pastor Saeed’s release before the UN Human Rights Council, our State Department acted like a lawyer who advocates for his client on the courthouse steps but won’t say anything at all to the judge.”
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/15/why-has-obama-state-department-left-american-pastor-behind-in-iran/
Did you get that Chris? Other countries spoke up at the UN for an American, but his own country’s representative said NOTHING!!!!!!!!
Hey, this sound like another time when four Americans were left to die in Benghazi while their president went to bed so he could catch an early fundraising flight the next morning.
Tina, do you support or oppose Michelle Obama’s attempts to raise awareness about the girls kidnapped by Boko Haram?
Peggy: “Democrats say they support gay rights, yet they also support the Islamic/Muslim faith that kills them. Which is it? Can’t be both.”
Peggy, I’m not sure what exactly you’re saying here.
The Islamic/Muslim faith is the third largest religion in the world. It seems like quite an extreme claim to say that the entire Islamic/Muslim faith is killing gays. Certainly many Muslim-ruled countries do execute homosexuals, and the radical terrorists are all for this. But you are saying that the faith itself is responsible for these killings, not just the radicals.
What progressives support is the right for peaceful Muslims to practice their religion so long as it does not harm others, just like every other religion. We supported the Islamic Community Center near Ground Zero because we believed that the imam was a moderate and a reformer and that an Islamic center that welcomed all was a rejection of everything the terrorists who struck on 9/11 stood for. Conservatives launched a full-scale assault on the imam filled with false allegations. How was that helpful? How was that supportive of free speech or freedom of religion?
Progressives do not support violent extremists of any religion. We support the moderates and reformers within Islam and we believe that average Muslims should have just as many rights in the U.S. without being discriminated against.
“Democrats say they support women’s rights, but have been silent about the way Muslim women are treated and the atrocities they’ve suffered here in the US and in other countries.”
Again, this is simply a lie. Democratic organizations, especially women’s organizations, have been very vocal opponents of the treatment of women in Islamic countries. You just don’t know what you’re talking about.
“Where has Obama been since he’s been in office?”
He has been at war with several majority-Muslim countries. At one point he sent a team to take out the worst terrorist our nation has ever seen. Where have YOU been?
“His silence is deafening? Michelle hold up a sign for the stolen girls, but where is her sign and Obama’s voice about this Christian mother of a 20 month old who will be whipped 100 times before being hanged?”
Are you seriously suggesting that the White House must comment on every single individual case involving atrocities by Muslims?
“Where has Obama and our State Dept. been for Saeed Abedini who has been imprisoned in Iran since Sept. 2012.”
Here:
http://aclj.org/iran/grateful-president-obama-raises-plight-of-american-pastor-saeed
“Hey, this sound like another time when four Americans were left to die in Benghazi while their president went to bed so he could catch an early fundraising flight the next morning.”
No one was “left to die” in Benghazi. This is a lie that has corrected numerous times. Please stop lying.
– See more at: http://www.norcalblogs.com/postscripts/2014/05/16/single-muslim-attrocity-awakens-world-opinion/#sthash.tGfNjX8j.dpuf
Peggy: “Democrats say they support gay rights, yet they also support the Islamic/Muslim faith that kills them. Which is it? Can’t be both.”
It’s complicated Peggy. I expect that’s why you’re having trouble with it.
A person can have serious issues with several tenets of Islam (and Christianity too, as it happens), but concede that people are entitled to their beliefs, religious and political.
Isn’t that one of the chief tenets under which this country was founded?
Come to think of it, this is not complicated at all. Why do you have so much trouble with it? Perhaps you simply do not believe it?
Libby: “It’s complicated Peggy. I expect that’s why you’re having trouble with it…
…Come to think of it, this is not complicated at all. Why do you have so much trouble with it? Perhaps you simply do not believe it?”
This is low of me, but I have the urge to give you an actual high five right now.
“This is low of me, but I have the urge to give you an actual high five right now.”
Ah, yes. We can’t all be models of equanimity … all the time. Especially when assaulted by such astoundingly transparent hypocrisies.
I think the sign thing is lame considering her position and First lady’s bully pulpit. Support…the thought was well meant…but lame.
This is a woman that has jet-setted around the world spending a lot of time and money that could have been used to do something more substantial for women…like Laura Bush did.
Chris and Libby, this is for you.
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/05/139732-video-evan-sayet-hilariously-explains-thinking-makes-bigot/
Peggy that is fabulous…great find!
Chris if my government placed me in an outpost in a dangerous country, ignored my requests for better security, failed to prepare contingencies for my removal if need be, failed to notice that other nations had chosen to leave and get their people out due to the danger, and failed to be prepared to move heaven and earth to rescue me if need be, especially on the anniversary date of 911, historically a date of attack on American targets for effect, I would feel like I had been abandoned, left to die, by my country.
Your opinion is not in line with American tradition…nor was the oversight and management of the Obama (Hillary) administration.
A lot of assertions backed up by nothing. I can see why you liked it, Peggy.
Uhhh…no you don’t, and that’s the point. You don’t get it. You are comfortably ensconced in that PC box that pretends intellectual openness but is actually a completely closed system.
Tina, Chris Stevens twice rejected offers of more security at the annex:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/14/191235/amb-stevens-twice-said-no-to-military.html
As for “moving heaven and earth:”
“Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates forcefully defended the Obama administration on Sunday against charges that it did not do enough to prevent the tragedy in Benghazi, telling CBS’ “Face the Nation” that some critics of the administration have a “cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces.”
Gates, a Republican who was appointed by then-President George W. Bush in 2006 and agreed to stay through more than two years of President Obama’s first term, repeatedly declined to criticize the policymakers who devised a response to the September 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans dead, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens.
“Frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were,” said Gates, now the chancellor of the College of William and Mary.
“We don’t have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible.” he explained.
Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers to “scare them with the noise or something,” Gates said, ignored the “number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former Libyan leader] Qaddafi’s arsenals.”
“I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft, over Benghazi under those circumstances,” he said.
Another suggestion posed by some critics of the administration, to, as Gates said, “send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, would have been very dangerous.”
“It’s sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces,” he said. “The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm’s way, and there just wasn’t time to do that.””
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/gates-some-benghazi-critics-have-cartoonish-view-of-military-capability/
The IJReview site is fascinating … contradictions abound: tweeting over the Nigerian abduction is pointless, but Trey Goudy is a tweeting justice fighter!!
Ok.
Seems that the issue is what you’re tweeting about?
Whatever.
And poor Even, the “creator of the longest running conservative comedy show” … nobody’s ever heard of. His angst is completely understandable.
Libby: “The IJReview site is fascinating … contradictions abound: tweeting over the Nigerian abduction is pointless, but Trey Goudy is a tweeting justice fighter!!”
Yep. That’s the current philosophy of the right-wing media in a nutshell. “It’s bad when they do it, but good when we do it” is the closest thing they have to a coherent, consistent moral principle.
I learned a new thing. Did some wallowing of my own … I hadn’t been over to Salon for awhile … and I completely missed it! How come you all never said anything … you are my source for all things “conservative”.
Operation American Spring!
The federal government was suppose to be violently overthrown by 30 million insensed patriots … but it wasn’t. And now the patriots are very angry at Glenn.
And then I learned another new thing. I did not know that The Blaze is Glenn! (Explains a lot, though.)
And then I got to read comments. We are exceptional here. Peggy is well above par … in her milieu.
(I’m calling it: Pick on Peggy Week.)
Let’s not be mean. I do agree that the comments on this site are a great deal more civil and coherent than…well, most of the sites this one links to. For as much crap as I give everyone here, it’s better than the Blaze, the Daily Caller, or *shudder* Atlas Shrugged, where commenters literally call for genocide against Muslims on a daily basis, with the tacit approval of Pamela Gellar.
#30 Libby: “(I’m calling it: Pick on Peggy Week.)”
Oh Libby you are just too funny and predictable. You don’t really believe your picking on me will shut me up, do you?
Following your guide book (Rules for Radicals) of intimidation won’t work. I already raised two kids and worked in education for over 25 years so understand what it is to deal with adolescents to believe the world revolves around them.
So, use your schoolyard bullying tactics all you want. I’ll keep right on posting when and what I want.
Two adults should be able to have an exchange of ideas without one acting like a child. Grow up, or as my mom used to say, “If you don’t have anything nice to say….” You know the rest I’m sure.
Have a good day, but warning if you swing first expect to get hit back. Got it?