Posted by Jack
Shasta County rejects the statehood movement and they were a key component in the State of Jefferson movement. Without Shasta County the idea of statehood for North California is in serious peril. Del Norte County also recently rejected the idea of two California’s. To make matters worse, this is the backyard of the original proponents and if they can’t sway their own county, it makes their volunteers wonder what chance they have. To date Butte County has delayed any action for 6 months, Yuba, Sutter, Tehema, Siskiyou and Glenn were supportive of the idea to send a petition to Sacramento as a first step toward seeking permission to form a 51st state, an act seen largely as symbolic and not involving any taxpayer money. It was also intended to serve notice on Sacramento that Northern Counties are suffering from a lack of representation. Currently a number of cities in SoCal have a great number of representatives in the capitol than the combined counties of the North state.
BREAKING NEWS 24 Jun 2014 – Shasta County will not join five other rural Northern California counties in a bid to form the 51st state and break away from California after a vote by county supervisors on Tuesday.
The Board of Supervisors voted 4-1 against lending support to the formation of a state of Jefferson after hearing more than two hours of arguments from 41 speakers, the vast majority of whom favored the split.
Supervisor David Kehoe of Redding said he had heard no compelling arguments to support the movement before making a motion not to back the state’s formation. He also included a provision that would require the vote of a majority of supervisors before revisiting the matter in the future. Leonard Moty seconded the recommendation.
Chairman Les Baugh said he did his best to listen to concerns of those in attendance, but his role as supervisor also required him to listen to the voice of citizens not at the meeting. He said feedback he’d received from people in recent months had run about half in favor, half opposed.
District 4 Supervisor Bill Schappell was the lone dissenting voice, saying he favored hearing a formal presentation from Jefferson organizers before voting on matter.
“We as a board need to consider the concerns of our public, and these are huge, valid concerns about the ways regulations are being imposed on people and small businesses,” he said.
Kehoe said he considered four aspects when forming his opinion: the practicality of forming a new state, the reality of the political environment in California, the application of a burden/benefit calculation and the overall relation to the public good.
Sounds like the more liberal members did what liberals always do. Instead of allowing the people to decide they manipulated the body to make sure the measure was never given a chance. If half the feedback one supervisor received was in favor of the Jefferson movement the supervisors should have felt compelled to give the measure every opportunity to be considered and voted on by the people. But manipulation is the way of the left; the left refuses to compete preferring the way of absolute power, propaganda, and dirty tricks.
The idea still has a tremendous amount of weight. People in the North /state are not being represented in Sacramento and that lack of representation goes significantly to the heart of our system of government. But the remedy is a mighty one that would require years of educating the public before launching the drive to create a new state. It’s difficult for anyone to spend the kind of time it would require to accomplish the education goal. If we had a Ronald Reagan voice that was free of the obligation to make a living we might do it more quickly and successfully but it’s not likely that that would happen.
A recent poll showed support in California for the President was limited to San Francisco and Los Angeles. The rest of the state gave him very low marks. Therein lies the Californians who are represented in Sacramento. The rest of us pay and take it in the shorts!
“Instead of allowing the people to decide they manipulated the body to make sure the measure was never given a chance.”
No. The people elected representatives and the representatives decided. Geez, Tina. You’re going to join Peggy on the dangerous list if you won’t accept the results of a perfectly legal vote of elected officials.
There is some stuff today on Salon about these more worrisome aspects of reactionary conservatism, currently embodied in the Tea Party movement.
You’re not going to turn into one of those “sovereign citizens”, are you?
Many of these county supervisors are nothing more than Agenda 21 puppets. Their masters want centralized control for without it Agenda 21 is doomed.
So there is no way they will tolerate decentralization.
Power at the local level must be removed and people will simply not be allowed to run their own lives
Bob, I hope it’s just that people fear change and they fear the unknown. Some people have lost that pioneer spirit and want everything spelled out in advance. Well, life doesn’t always work that way if you want to get anywhere. Sometimes a little risk is necessary in order to meet worthy goals. A North California as a state could offer things the people in Sacramento can’t even conceive. This is because they’re liberal democrats. They love big government. They are all for wealth shifting and they don’t understand why anyone would want anything else?
Statehood is big undertaking, but in California’s case, it is a much needed one for a majority of people that live here. They don’t understand why LA’s smog rules should apply in Modoc County. They don’t want their water diverted to SoCal. They can’t afford to pay the high taxes because we are living on a different economy up here. It’s a shame that small minded people can’t see what great potential we would have with a North California.
And let’s face it. The majority of voters in this state are brainwashed DemoNcratsTM.
The DemoNcratsTM have total control and the Republican party in this state is mostly incompetent and run ineffective candidates like Whitman and Neil Cash-n-carry who really is a Hank Paulson Goldmansachs white shoe boy who helped cram the bankster bailout (TARP) down the taxpayers throats. (Crony capitalism at it’s best.)
And even if all the northern counties overwhelming voted to become a new state or states, there’s no way the tyrant DemoNcratsTM in the state legislature and in the District of Criminals would allow that to happen.
But still, we must press on. If enough people push on with this idea and the majority of people eventually agree Sacramento and Washington D.C. will lose their legitimacy and then we can secede by default. (Form our own state and ignore the mandates of the tyrants in Sacramento and DC.)
I agree that it is probably fear of the unknown to some extent.
I also think it is ignorance, mainly economic ignorance. The vast majority has no idea about the Austrian school of economics.
If people would read Hayek, Hazlitt, von Mises, Rothbard and Robert Higgs among others it would forever change their view of the economy.
Bouncing on risk …
One of my favorite lines from the film “Little Big Man” comes when the snake oil salesman, Mr. Merriweather speaks from the boardwalk above the mire to the fallen drunk Jack Crabb. Jack observes that Mr. Merriweather is missing more parts and now has a peg leg and a hook for a hand in addition to his missing eye.
Jack Crabb: You better watch out Mr. Merriweather, they’re whittlin’ you down pretty good. Can’t afford to lose any more of your parts.
Mr. Merriweather: Every business has a particle of risk.
~ 3:37 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX5IMETR66A&list=PL59FFF337C398A28B&index=12
Geez Libby I suggested what I thought the representatives should do. Its called expression which I’m fairly certain you would still agree is my right.
Rather a sovereign citizen than a lock step progressive, but no.
“Many of these county supervisors are nothing more than Agenda 21 puppets.”
Thanks, Bob. That was a good chuckle. And I can see it … I really can. Chortle.
And then I get depressed. I swear, sometimes it seems like half the country in on medication … and the other half should be.
Funny Libs…wish you knew why!
#10 Tina,
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!
Thanks for the laugh!!!!!!!!!!!