Posted by Tina
Richard Fernandez of PJ Media informs that the world is, “Waiting for America,” in another outstanding article that looks at current world events through the lens of lessons learned from yesterday. His insights into the current trend toward worldwide fascism are must reading:
Today we are witnessing a revival of glamour of authoritarianism unequaled since the dark days of the Second World War. The villains are gathering in all the best places getting all the best service. There’s no shortage of people ready to play the bad guys. And so it will remain until someone somewhere screws up the courage to play the good guy — which in the first instance means playing the rube, playing the fool — the role that America used to specialize in.
Fernandez notes that in the great battle between communists and fascists the fascists have won as despots and tyrants realize and embrace the power in control over capital. Remnants of the free world linger, but for how long? As Fernandez writes, the world is waiting for the good guys, waiting for the white hats that rallied to defeat the black hat tyrants of the WWII era.
We cannot escape the intentions of powerful men up to no good. The world is waiting for America, the beacon of light and the champion of freedom, to lead the way. The question is, are we wise enough, smart enough…do we value freedom and decency enough…to defeat them?
Careful Tina, for mentioning this Chris may start saying this is the most fascistic thing you have ever written (while duplicitously and absurdly denying he is calling you a fascist). š
As a side point, I find fascism and communism barely distinct. The human toll on life (in the tens of millions, give or take a few million slaughtered like sheep in the abattoir) and the distribution of abject misery is pretty much the same. Much like Islam fascism and communism creates strong man totalitarian dictatorships supported by a lackey elite of clerics (in the case of Islam) or party members (in the case of fascism and communism.)
The only real difference between the two is that communism has a history of ineptly centrally controlling industry and business while fascism embraced it and subjugated it. Modern Communist China is the exception. An interesting exception. Will the acceptance of capitalism by the communist party move China towards liberty, freedom, and democracy?
In my estimation, Russia is merely continuing a long history of despots with Putin. The USA is the only experiment that ever truly aspired to ascend and protect individual liberty and has had some success with it. American Indians may have a different perspective on that, though.
Are we wise enough, smart enoughā¦do we value freedom and decency enoughā¦to defeat them [the fascists and our home grown idiots]? Lord, I hope so. But not with this current government.
By the way, despite our own egregious flaws as a nation regarding the treatment of American Indians and the many years it took to end the practice of slavery, any fool who calls me a bigot for displaying the flag of the United States Of America or the “Don’t Tread On Me” flag is begging for a knuckle sandwich.
Pie I appreciate your comments in light of the goings on in Europe, Russia, China and the Middle East and the gathering of wealthy bullies intent on ruling the world. You’re right, of course, about communism vs. fascism…the point I was making is that they have abandoned their war with each other to instead align. They are rallying and forming alliances in the void created by the weakness of America. America is being undermined from within and without while too many Americans sleep or fight the fabricated PC wars.
The one difference between American treatment of the American Indian and the communist fascist treatment of millions of people is intent. The mission of the people who came to these shores was not destruction or subjugation but freedom and survival. Our march westward was the same. We were incredibly clumsy, awkward, gangly, indelicate, inept, and at times cruel but we were not disposed toward tyranny and control. Our decision and agreement with Indians to place them on reservations was a terrible “solution” to a difficult problem and it was handled very badly. But it was never the intent of the founders or most of the people who called themselves Americans to tyrannically rule over the Indians. Had it been we would not have agreed to separate lands under treaty; we would have simply crushed them as have all the socialist dictators around the world.
People have been doing terrible things to each other since the beginning. The desire for absolute power is another animal with a particular agenda and it’s important to make the distinction since blurring that line is the intent of goose stepping power hungry radicals.
Like you I fly those colors proudly. Those who won’t, or attempt to discredit the flags through bigotry and labeling, can stuff it. They don’t have a clue about the nation they represent and they are too unconscious to realize whats going on as they stumble around in their carefully arranged belief system.
By the way all, Jerry Molen and Dinesh D’Souza bring America to the big screen on July 2nd:
(Scroll down for trailer)
Oh, and back atcha š on the “most fascist thing” I’ve “ever written”…that was too good for words!
Tina,
Frankly I am fed up with your fascist racism —
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwqhoVIh65k
Another reason for the rise —
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysQl4aW7tME&feature=youtu.be
“On May 31, a secret meeting took place in Vienna in the Palais Liechtenstein to organize a fascist fifth column in support of the Kremlinās ambitions to dominate Europe.”
Yes, well, that’s some scary prose all right, but if you think about it, just for a minute, you ought to realize that there isn’t a chance of it.
As a matter of global domination, Pooty’s broke. Russia’s economy is so profoundly defective, that it’s real unlikely that Russia will be anything but broke for quite some time. The limit to Pooty’s ability to wreak military havoc has pretty much been reached … at the Crimean border.
And that list of attendees? Inherited wealth is a lovely thing, but it don’t make you no brain surgeon. I really don’t think we have to worry. In fact:
“In speeches at the meeting observed by a German-Swiss reporter who infiltrated the event, many of the attendees hailed Putin as Europeās āredeemerā from Americanism, liberalism, secularism, and homosexuality.”
Ain’t this right up your alley … ideologically speaking? So now I know we’ve got nothing to worry about.
It is pretty clear what is up Blame The Victim Libby’s alley.
Nice play Libby but dripping with your own prejudices about who I am. That caricature is comforting to you, I know…gives you a outlet for snide #12’s…but it does not look in any way like me or any conservative I know.
Vladimir Putin’s personal wealth is said to be around $70-$75 Billion. That’s all that really matters under socialists like he, and you. the system is, after all, one in which the individual gets the crumbs doled out by elites who such up the wealth for themselves!
I’ll give you this, its a sad day when Americanism is defined by liberalism, secularism and homosexuality when she has always stood as a beacon for freedom and justice.
Thanks Pie at #4 and #5…Bill Whittel is one of my heroes!
“Iāll give you this, its a sad day when Americanism is defined by liberalism, secularism and homosexuality.”
Only a fascist would think it is. And what, exactly do you mean by “freedom and justice” … if not the freedom to be a homosexual, an atheist and a registered Democrat in a country where anybody who murders you on those grounds goes to prison for a particularly long time.
I really don’t see what you’re objecting to. (Or do I.)
Speaking of fascism … in some earlier thread I mentioned that Obama was preparing to rule by fiat again on illegal immigration.
Here is today’s Obama tantrum —
Obama pledges to redirect immigration enforcement, conceding Congress wonāt act
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-pledges-to-redirect-immigration-enforcement-conceding-defeat-on-overhaul/2014/06/30/40e69476-0083-11e4-8fd0-3a663dfa68ac_story.html?wpisrc=al_comboPN_p
“President Obama angrily conceded Monday that Congress would not overhaul immigration laws this year and announced that he will redirect immigration enforcement to the border.
The action, which will beef up efforts to stem illegal immigration across the border but likely will slow efforts to deport longtime undocumented immigrants already in the country…”
The Lie: will beef up efforts to stem illegal immigration across the border
The Truth: will slow efforts to deport longtime undocumented immigrants already in the country
Tina: “Iāll give you this, its a sad day when Americanism is defined by liberalism, secularism and homosexuality when she has always stood as a beacon for freedom and justice.”
The fact that you would pose these in opposition to one another reveals you for the bigot you have always been.
Hmmm…AĀ·merĀ·iĀ·canĀ·ism [uh-mer-i-kuh-niz-uhm] Show IPA noun
1. a custom, trait, or thing peculiar to the United States of America or its citizens.
2. a word, phrase, or other language feature that is especially characteristic of the English language as spoken or written in the U.S.
3. devotion to or preference for the U.S. and its institutions.
4. anything, as a custom or word, peculiar to America.
Chris I think what Tina was trying to say is some folks would like to change this, but as you can see the definition still stands.
I don’t know about secularism and homosexuality but my experience is that liberalism is diametrically opposed to freedom and justice. Liberals give lip service to “freedom and justiceā but in practice they are power centralizing statists who seek to control and manipulate every aspect of people’s lives by bureaucratic fiat, nonsense legislation (such as how big a soft drink can be) and intimidation, lies, and corruption. Eric Holders DOJ, Lois “The 5th” Learner’s IRS, Benghazi, EPA investigation (more “lost” emails), Fast and Furious …
Remember, this is the era of the Pelosi Paradigm — “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in”
and
The Obama Doctrine of Serial Lying as exemplified by “You can keep your healthcare plan/doctor if you want to.”
*YAWN* The bigoted and always toxic Chris calls Tina a bigot again. Lets see, has he called her a fascist lately too, or has the self professed negro burner stuck with just racist and bigot?
Oops, silly me, I missed it! Blame The Victim calls Tina a fascist. Evidently she is taking up some The Magnificent English Major’s slack at slur mongering.
The toxic twins are unleashing again.
Re #2 Tina: “The one difference between American treatment of the American Indian and the communist fascist treatment of millions of people is intent. The mission of the people who came to these shores was not destruction or subjugation but freedom and survival.
On this I we will have to agree to disagree. True, at the time some of us new immigrants sought to deal fairly with American Indians and sought justice, but the truth is other policies prevailed. We broke every treaty, and for all intents and purposes pursued a policy of subjugation, cultural destruction, and near genocide. The despicable and evil Trail Of Tears and General George A. Custer’s Washita Massacre come to mind as to of the more infamous historical examples of our subjugation and failure to extend the principles of freedom and justice to American Indians.
True enough, American Indians were herded into reservations that, for most, put them into abject poverty and dependence upon a government whose Bureau Of Indians Affairs had a policy to destroy the last remnants of their cultures and language.
The atrocities were many. Yes, it was a war with, in some cases, a warlike people. But the way we treated the vanquished was hardly humanitarian. It took a century for that to change and many American Indians still live in abject poverty due to our “largesse”.
Jack, don’t you try to defend her. The last few days, that woman has posted some truly unconscionable stuff.
Change Americanism to what? A political philosophy that shelters homosexuals, atheists and socialists, for instance? America HAS for some time … THAT’S what she AND POOTY want to change.
Neither of them have a rat’s ass chance in hell.
(But you all can still be reactionary conservatives … it’s all cool.)
Re Myself 16: Some historical information pertinent to the above …
Washita Massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Washita_River
http://home.epix.net/~landis/washita.html
The Sand Creek Massacre
http://www.ushistory.org/us/40a.asp
Trail Of Tears
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_tears
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears
http://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/trail-of-tears
http://www.nps.gov/trte/index.htm
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4h1567.html
BIA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Indian_Affairs
The Bureau of Indian Affairs has been involved in many controversial policies. One of the most controversial was the late 19th to early 20th century decision to educate native children in separate boarding schools, with an emphasis on assimilation that prohibited them from using their indigenous languages, practices, and cultures. It emphasized being educated to European-American culture.[2] Some were beaten for praying to their own creator god.[3]
Population
Estimates are that 18 million American Indians lived in pre-Columbian North America alone, though no conclusive evidence exists to determine how many native people lived in North America before the arrival of Columbus. Given the interior’s relative isolation from the east coast and European borne diseases, I think is not unreasonable to estimate that at least half that many lived in the continental United States in 1776. By the end of the 19th century approximately 250,000 Native Americans lived in the United States, the former millions reduced to this pitiful number by disease, the Indian wars, and the poverty and despair of reservation life.
Libby (and Chris) are still looking for phobics and racist in every word and don’t realize the prejudice required to put it there as they read to discover the “proof” is the problem.
The need to constantly qualify rights and create special set asides and conditions is taking the place of actually living as free citizens. The left is defining the struggle as American and that’s not what America is but what they have chosen to make it.
Your party has made a cottage industry out of victim-hood as a political tool to get votes. Victims don’t live or act free but march to the drum of the struggle and the politics…even if they have to manufacture offenses. Liberalism attempts to remake our republic into a socialist state…also not living as Americans in freedom and justice.
Thanks for the support Jack. I don’t expect it will transfer.
So, Pie ….
Tell us your point, explicitly. We’d all love to hear it.
Pie #14:
I agree with everything you said and applaud you for presenting it in such an eloquent manner.
Pie #16:
I agree with most of what you said, but think what Tina was saying also has merit.
We’ve made major mistakes, like what we did with the Indians and Japanese, but, hopefully, we learned from those mistakes and will never do them again.
Our ancestors came here to live the life of freedom and liberty not afforded them in their homelands. They didn’t move here to enforce those same violations on others they themselves fled. The violations to individuals rights and freedoms was done by those in power at the time. And we’re seeing the same attempt of abuse of power today by this administration.
It was wrong then and it’s wrong now and must be stopped. People need to wake up and realize the lies for what they are, an abuse of power grab. We need people to stand up and stop the abuse now before we repeat history’s mistakes.
Every once in a while Pie writes something rational. Thanks for bringing the atrocities to our attention, Pie. They should never be forgotten.
Pie I still don’t think you can say it was the intent of the founders or those people who moved themselves or their families westward to massacre and subjugate Indians.
I wish to differentiate between people/governments acting as people often do, despicably, and those who plan, scheme, and organize to seek power over people in order to subjugate them or commit genocide, as Hitler and others did. I don’t believe that was ever the purpose or goal in America and I believe the distinction is an important one that isn’t taught to young people as they study our history.
There are historical instances, less dramatic and rarely cited in school, that show the intent of locals, both Indian and newcomer, to work and live together peacefully. I like my history to be complete and when the narrative has become shrill and anti-American it bugs me.
One of the biggest problems was the volumes of people coming to the shores of this land, all looking for a new life…give us your tired, etc. The overwhelming numbers exacerbated the conflicts and our government worked too hard, and incredibly incompetently, at trying to fix the problems. There is no question that this was a shameful part of our history.
Pie, I and then you wrote:
Do you really think the people who came to our shores, and then later our governments “mission” was to subjugate and destroy the local people?
Tina: “Pie I still donāt think you can say it was the intent of the founders or those people who moved themselves or their families westward to massacre and subjugate Indians.”
Of course you don’t, because you don’t want to think it. You only believe what you want to, and no amount of evidence can change your mind. It never has.
#23 Tina :
“Pie I still donāt think you can say it was the intent of the founders or those people who moved themselves or their families westward to massacre and subjugate Indians.”
With regard to the founders, I think you are largely correct on that, but that certainly did not apply to President Andrew Jackson, 7th President Of The United States and what followed. Certainly there were plenty of people in those times who objected to the treatment of American Indians, but they did not prevail, the buffalo were wiped out and the American Indian way of life came to an end to the shame of our nation.
Re: “Do you really think the people who came to our shores, and then later our governments āmissionā was to subjugate and destroy the local people?”
Not at first, but that eventually became the dominant policy of the government which supposedly represented the American people, including American Indian interests. This is not a matter of “belief” for me, it is historical fact.
Things are looking a bit better these days.
Re # 23 Chris: Thank you but I am not interested in your dysfunctional mental disease of ever snotty, condescending, and arrogant approval. I have asked you this before and I ask you again: Never agree with me, it only makes me look bad to reasoned, intelligent, and thoughtful people.
Re #24 Chris: Why don’t you take that tiresome, trumpet of yours and go blow your extreme left wing psycho-babble noise up someone else’s …
Re #20 Libby :
So, Pie ā¦.
Tell us your point, explicitly. Weād all love to hear it.
If your are writing about the clash of cultures and wars between American Indians and the flood of Europeans who came to these shores, I think I was fairly clear on that above.
You idiot.
Correction In #24 Above:
That should have read —
Certainly there were plenty of people in those times who objected to the treatment of American Indians, but they did not prevail, the buffalo were wiped out and the American Indian way of life came to a brutal end to the shame of our nation.
Addendum:
At the founding of this nation there were also a significant number of abolitionists who railed against the evil of slavery. To form our new form of government and begin the great American experiment it took a political compromise with the devil which, it was conjectured, the political climate would or could change to end this evil down the road in 50 or so years. Well, it took 80 some odd years until Abraham Lincoln was elected to office and the tide against slavery turned into a bloody and costly civil war.
Not so with American Indians. While there have been countless voices objecting to the treatment they have received over several hundred years, it wasn’t until the late 20th century that, in general, their lot has changed. Some tribes had more favorable situations than others and have faired better than others, but for the most part their lot has been miserable.
Aside To Chris:
Please do not continue being a disingenuous, snot-nosed, obnoxious ass by agreeing with me on the above. I known it is hard for you, given your severe mental and personality dysfunctions, but give it a try, kid.
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/knee.htm
National Congress of American Indians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Congress_of_American_Indians
OK, this has diverged long enough from the original topic and to Tina and Jack I apologize for having a hand at hijacking this thread in this divergent path.
Back to the original subject, Tina asked, The question is, are we wise enough, smart enoughā¦do we value freedom and decency enoughā¦to defeat them?
Answer: We as a nation may be, but the current administration is not. Do not expect any sort of leadership from this clown. He is an international laughingstock.
#30…yes, without any doubt in my mind! I’ve tried to follow the big decisions of the Obama’s administration and I’ve not seen much that was ever good or even smart come of it. Almost nothing he’s done has been good for America. Sure, it’s been good for non-American’s, but not for us.
We’ve been asked to grow the debt, take huge economic risks in the name of recovery, squander our wealth in foreign lands, and make major investments in things near and dear to the Obama’s, but not the average American. After watching him perform for these years in DC I can say with all candor… I have little respect or trust for this boob, I think his judgment sucks (massive understatement). We’ve elected a phony, an arrogant dumbass, a closeted American hater….
Pie: “Never agree with me, it only makes me look bad to reasoned, intelligent, and thoughtful people.”
Let me know if any show up.
Okay Pie, one more time and we’re done. Would you say that at any time an American president could be compared to Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the Khmer Rouge as they are often compared to each other?
My grandfather fought in the civil war for the North. He also fought in the battle for Kansas statehood against KKK types who wanted Kansas to be a slave state. He married a Cherokee and was adopted into the tribe when it was still the Louisiana Territory. I am aware of the plight of the Indians. I am also aware of the relationship that were forged between Indians and settlers from my own relatives. The American record is not perfect and I did not intend to imply it is. I do still think that in these times there are those who attempt to undermine resistance to terrorism by making America “as bad or worse” than terrorists who do intend to subjugate and control the world. I’m frankly surprised no one is willing to say that America is not an aggressor nation bent on subjugation. We do liberate. We do have a document that represents what we stand for, freedom, basic rights, the rule of law and justice even though we sometimes fall short.
At #30…yes! And thank you.
Re #33 Tina : “Okay Pie, one more time and weāre done. Would you say that at any time an American president could be compared to Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the Khmer Rouge as they are often compared to each other?”
Nope, but Democrat Andrew Jackson, 7th President of the United States gave it a good shot. Of course, he did not that the advanced weaponry of a Hitler, a Stalin, a Mao, or the Khmer Rouge and so was a relative piker by comparison.
I am not saying that we can be characterized as an aggressor nation, we are far from it, and people who characterize us as such are ignorant or have a sick political agenda. Nevertheless our history with the American Indians is a stain on our honor as a liberty and freedom loving people that cannot be denied. This is the sort of thing that so often happens when cultures clash. There is a winner and a loser.
Human clashes of culture are almost never pretty. For example, the Celts came out of Germany and swept across Europe in at least three recognizable waves. Do you think they were sweet about it? But today we have Flamenca in Spain and traditional Irish music as a result. Maybe our wounds as a nation will also heal. Eventually the Celts were absorbed into and contributed to the cultures they conquered. We could do well to absorb some American Indian culture, I think, instead of forcing ours on theirs as we have done for several hundred years.
Look at it this way, there were plenty of Democrat Americans evil enough as to insist upon the continuation and spread of the vile brutality and abject misery of slavery. These same Democrats created the brutal evil of the Ku Klux Klan after they lost the Civil War and slavery was, at last, abolished, thanks to Americans who recognized that evil and worked for two generations to end it.
It is not so hard to understand that these SAME Democratic Party demons visited similar if not worse horrors on American Indians than they did to our darker skinned brothers and sisters. Today, does the base and core evil of the Democratic Party get a pass for their program of keeping their former slaves on the plantation by destroying the black family with welfare programs?
A few historical facts (several from Wikipedia, other from history sites elsewhere on the web) —
Andrew Jackson (March 15, 1767 ā June 8, 1845) was the seventh President of the United States (1829ā1837).
He had a distinguished military career and fought in both the American Revolutionary War at age thirteen, and the war of 1812. Jackson’s service in the War of 1812 against Britain was conspicuous for bravery and success.
As POTUS
Jackson paid off the entire national debt, the only time in U.S. history that has been accomplished.
Jackson was a leading advocate of a policy known as Indian removal. The Indian Removal Act was a law passed by Congress on May 28, 1830 and signed by Jackson. The Senate and House were controlled by Jackson Democrats. This policy followed in line with a policy of acculturation first proposed by George Washington.
Indian nations slated for removal, particularly the Cherokee, who had once been allies of Jackson (Battle of Horseshoe Bend).
By this time American Indians, whose ancestors would have once gone to war over this breaking of treaties act and removal outrage, decided to go to court instead. A wise but ultimately futile decision.
The Cherokee fought the Indian Removal Act by challenging it in the Supreme Court. In Cherokee Nation vs. Georgia (1831), the Supreme Court refused to hear the case on the basis that the Cherokee Nation did not represent a sovereign nation. However, in the case of Worcester vs. Georgia (1832) the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Cherokee. The Supreme Court this time ruled that the Cherokee Nation was sovereign thus making the removal laws invalid. The decision, rendered by Justice John Marshall, declared the forced removal of the Cherokee Nation to be illegal, unconstitutional and against treaties made.
Jackson, believing he was the supreme leader of the United States ignored the Supreme Court and continued with his policy of removal (and eradication) through some truly Machiavellian machinations which led to the Trail Of Tears, and the rest of that sorrowful history. Of which I will not expand upon here since such information it is freely available on the web or in history books and this has thread gone on long enough.
Bottom line Tina, I do not believe that the evil that Democrats have done and do in our nation and to our nation defines us.
Well, the above was pretty sloppy, but I think the information comes across, and I am not going to try and correct it not.
Er I am not going to try and correct it NOW. LOL. I need an editor.
Oh, by the way, fun fact I left out: Andrew Jackson’s opponents portrayed him in caricature as a jackass. Jackson found the caricature highly amusing and adopted as his symbol, which eventually became the symbol of the jackass party, the Democratic Party.
“If your are writing about the clash of cultures and wars between American Indians and the flood of Europeans who came to these shores, I think I was fairly clear on that above.”
Not quite explicit enough. Are you saying that what was done to the indigenous Americans should be done to the planet’s Muslim population?
(And your analogy would be flawed in any case, as any “culture clash” was entirely subordinate to the land grab. The ignorant arrogance astounds.)
Pie at #37 ^5 š
Libby At #38 engaged in activist workout, continues to stretch.
Re #38 Blame The Victim: Go crawl back into your hole.
“Libby At #38 engaged in activist workout, continues to stretch.”
Well, then, what is he trying to say? You explain it to us. Just a little bit of airy-fairy meditating, was it?
A rather a genocidal bit of meditating … I do feel compelled to point that out.
Libby it’s impossible to discuss anything with you. I mean that sincerely. You have such a flawed and reprehensible idea of who we, as conservatives, are and what we believe and think that what we say literally does not get there…does not penetrate.
The game of attempting to explain ourselves, correct your misrepresentations, defend ourselves from the truly despicable assumptions you make, not only about the details and facts, but also about character and intention, gets old. I’m with Pie, crawl back in that hole of yours and argue with yourself.
Rules for radicals is a great strategy for shutting down real communication. You liberals are good at it but it’s nothing to be proud of in my opinion.
Re #42 Tina :
Ditto.
Yeah, yeah, yeah … but there’s no answer to my question anywhere in there.
Pie … say … what did you mean by your native American analogy … flawed though it was.
Say.
Mind you, nobody expects you to. If you denied that such was your intent, we would have to ask: “then why bring it up?”
And, if you owned the genocidal bigotry, well, that would be genocidal bigotry wouldn’t it? … and hardly admirable.
And, it’s not very nice, I know, but I am vastly enjoying the holes yer diggin’ fer yerselves.
You know … that “crack in the pie” thing? That’s actually just a variation on Garrison Keillor’s “nutmeg riff”. That you should work yourselves into such a snit over it is … telling.
That you should imagine we’re worked up into a snit is telling! Review at #42!
Re #44 Why Libby Is An Idiot: “Pie ā¦ say ā¦ what did you mean by your native American analogy ā¦ flawed though it was.”
What analogy? I haven’t presented any analogy. Please expound. Or rather do not, just have another toke, another drink, or do whatever it is that you do to scramble your brains so thoroughly.
Re #44: Garrison Keillor, now there is some presidential timber. Much like Cheech, Chong, and crack cocaine pie crust Barry.
I think Libby has been snorting too much nutmeg. Pass that straw to Dewey.
Libby, far be it from me to be fair to someone who has never been fair to either of us, but I’m not sure what exactly you’re getting at with your questions about Pie’s Native American “analogy.” I didn’t see him making an analogy, I saw him acknowledging that America hasn’t always been perfect and bringing up the treatment of Native Americans as an example. Could you specify what you mean by this?
“Garrison Keillor, now there is some presidential timber.”
Don’t waffle. Didn’t the Shrub get elected cause all you crackers wanted to drink beer with him?
“What analogy? I havenāt presented any analogy.”
Denial. The best of two bad options. Good choice … and consistent … but craven.
Re #50 Libby :Tell me, you idiot, where I was making any analogy? Be specific.
Re #48 Insane 18th Century Wannabe Negro Burner Boy : Too funny, when have you ever been “fair” to Post Scripts?