Posted by Tina
Seven years after the massive earthquake that struck Port-au-Prince, Haiti and created such distruction the poor nation i still suffering. Many have decried the badly managed reconstruction and recovery process. Now, according to the Wall Street Journal, two Haitian lawyers have petitioned the court to have the books of the IHRC audited:
Haitians are angry, frustrated and increasingly suspicious of the motives of the IHRC and of its top official, Mr. Clinton. Americans might feel the same way if they knew more about this colossal failure. One former Haitian official puts it this way: “I really cannot understand how you could raise so much money, put a former U.S. president in charge, and get this outcome.”
If true this angers me greatly. It isn’t just the money, although the lefts waste and abuse in this regard has become epic. No…it is the unnecessary continued suffering and the big black eye delivered to America, a nation the world has been able to count on for excellence in times of trouble and need. Mediocrity of service, helping friends get rich on the backs of people in trouble and with donations (other peoples money!)…disgusting!
Power corrupts…absolutely!
Being a Clinton involves a lotta style but no substance, and both Bubba & Shrillary have that in spades.
Off Topic —
First Lady calls for children to copy Nazi youth movement —
First lady Michelle Obama is encouraging students to monitor their older relatives, friends and co-workers for any racially insensitive comments they might make, and to challenge those comments whenever they’re made.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/19/michelle-obama-would-like-students-to-monitor-family-members-for-racial-insensitivity/
Five bucks says it turns out that those Haitian attorneys are acquainted with Turd Blossom.
Wow, Pie Guevara. I guess yesterday, when I told my grandpa “That’s not funny” after he made a joke about “coons” (his word), I was behaving just like a Nazi. I should have just shown tolerance by ignoring it or chuckling along. Because correcting people when they say racially insensitive things is just like being part of a movement designed to exterminate an entire race. No, actually, it’s even worse! How can anyone claim to be “tolerant” if they are intolerant of other people’s racial intolerance?
Your comment is the epitome of how the right has twisted matters of race. According to the modern conservative movement, the worst thing anyone can possibly be accused of is racism, yet actually saying racist things is perfectly acceptable and undeserving of criticism. How those two viewpoints can be logically consistent is a complete mystery, but this is the same party that believes there is no contradiction between the positions of Ayn Rand and Jesus Christ, so I guess cognitive dissonance is just your thing.
Good lord, the comments on that Blaze piece are insane. INSANE. What in God’s name could POSSIBLY be wrong with asking people to speak up when their family and friends say racist things? Is that not a moral thing to do? How many people are afraid to speak up and say nothing when they encounter real racism?
I remember in 2008, when Obama was on the ballot, I was with my mom taking her car into the shop. It was run by my uncle and another guy who I had known for years. FOX News was playing on the TV, as it usually does there, and the guy asked me if I was old enough to vote. I told him that this would be my first presidential election.
“Who are you voting for?” he asked.
“Not sure yet. I like McCain’s experience, but I disagree with him on a lot of issues. Some of Obama’s history bothers me, but I think I’ll end up voting for him.”
I’ll never forget his reply: “I don’t see how anyone could vote for a nigger.”
Not even “THAT nigger,” which would be slightly better, if only because then it would be about a specific individual, though it would still be a racial slur. “A nigger.” As in “any.” As if black people are fundamentally unsuited to be president.
I froze. I had never heard anyone use that word in that context with that amount of hate. I had no idea what to say. Finally as he walked away, I stuttered out, “Race shouldn’t matter.” I don’t even know if he heard me.
And you’re going to give the first lady shit for suggesting that kids be brave enough to stand up against this type of hatred?
You can go screw yourself, Pie Guevara. You are a hateful little troll with no moral compass whatsoever.
Libby I guess you are so certain of your prejudices that you don’t want to be called on them. Five bucks says you are wrong regardless.
The Sentinel:
Haiti Libre
The Nation
Foreign Policy:
No mention in any of these Of T. Blossom.
The First Lady was gracious in her remarks but she definitely believes the problem is much more wide spread among “older folks” than I do. After speaking about Brown vs Board of Education (60th anniversary) she spoke about how diverse the graduating
class was and mentioned Democrats (women and men of color) that had risen to high office but of course NOT Clarence Thomas or Condi Rice, probably because their politics aren’t color correct and then she said:
I realize this woman is used to community organizing and activism, especially for blacks, so I’m willing to cut her some slack.
However I’d like to follow her lead and just tell her that I hear a lot of prejudice against white folks in her comments, as well as preconceived ideas about how white folks think in communities that are mostly white. I’d like to tell her too that some of that prejudice that she imagines might stem from the behaviors of some of those who have come to our towns and cities. I’d like her to know that news accounts of her own hometown city of Chicago are very troubling to “folks” in small towns…as are reports of flash mobs and knock out attacks. I’d like her to know that in fifty years of affirmative action and investment it is very troubling that children still have to live in dangerous communities and go to bad schools and I’d like to say the Democrat Party is largely responsible for a lot of it. I know this is not what MLK thought would come of his work. I’d like her to know that as a Republican I am automatically thought of as suspect because the Democrat Party has declared a race war on white republicans, labeling us as racist and that it is a blatant lie. I’d like her to know that if she is aware of this lie, and continues to afirm it, then she is culpable and responsible for the state of race relations in America…and she should be ashamed.
And finally I think she is in an extremely powerful position to create bridges rather than walls and I don’t think hers or her husbands divisive attitudes and rhetoric do much for race relations. I think they have harmed race relations. Many of us that embraced the civil rights movement and taught our kids to love and respect people of all races and creeds as people and as children of God are now having to explain to our kids why they are suspected of racism, and hated, just because they are white and living in a small town. Or why when classrooms are diverse, as the first lady noted, minorities continue to get special privileges. I would challenge her to look at people as people and to drop the color filter through which she examines America.
There is much work to be done in Chicago and other cities and towns that don’t have a damn thing to do with racism; they have to do with broken morality, bad attitudes, and broken families. White “folks” can’t repair that damage; minority “folk” are going to have to do the heavy lifting on that one.
Tina: “However I’d like to follow her lead and just tell her that I hear a lot of prejudice against white folks in her comments”
Which part of her comments, specifically?
Ah, Tina. I remember Clinton’s energetic enthusiasm when he took on the project. It was to touching in a person his age.
And I also remember how everybody else said it was bloody hopeless cause there is, still, something in the Haitian that prevents them from stepping up, and getting it done, and makes them horribly susceptible to assorted practitioners of public corruption.
Any assertion of Clintonian involvement in such doings is just wishful thinking (or the machinations of our little Turd Bloosom).
Right next door, in the Dominican Republic, things are going swimmingly … but not in Haiti … anytime soon.
The Dominican Republic isn’t ruled by dictators and elitist left wealthy “folk” some of whom are followers of black liberation theology.
But the conditions in Haiti have nothing to do with artistic bookkeeping that makes money disappear or the unaccountability that has apparently swallowed millions and delivered nothing much.
This smacks of the grant money that BHS wasted in similar fashion on an urban renewal project in Chicago…remember that:
Chris they are highlighted in her remarks above…unless you thought she was only speaking to minority kids.
“Chris they are highlighted in her remarks above…unless you thought she was only speaking to minority kids.”
But you seem to be assuming that she is only speaking to “white folks,” even though there is no indication of that anywhere in her speech. I don’t see how anyone could read her comments and see “prejudice” against whites. Such an assumption smacks of defensiveness and an unconscious belief that all discussions of race must focus, above all, on protecting the feelings of white people.
Chris: “But you seem to be assuming that she is only speaking to “white folks,” even though there is no indication of that anywhere in her speech.”
I disagree. I have never heard liberals, or anyone for that matter, express concern over minority prejudice; of course she was talking to/about whites!
She attended a church for twenty years with Barack in which whites are often referred to as “the devil”. Black liberation theology is all about hating whites (Whitey).
And as for that grandpa of yours, without sympathies for his language, I have to say I would bet language against whites is just as prevalent in black families as are jokes poking fun at white “folk”. We cannot hope to give black and white “folk” the space to work out differences and learn to live together if we are constantly dividing people into groups with whites designated as the bad guy.
The party that loves to “move on” and go “forward” refuses to move beyond 1960.
“… defensiveness and an unconscious belief that all discussions of race must focus, above all, on protecting the feelings of white people.”
Well lets examine some history. I’m of the generation that defied the established morality expressed either as hatred and bigotry or tolerance of hatred and bigotry to fight for the rights of blacks. As a society we opened our hearts and our wallets to help blacks move on up to the east side! Since 1960 I have seen blacks reach to the highest of heights with success in every field and many have amassed fortunes. Running parallel is a continuing plea for special rights, favoritism, and accommodation based on furthering the notion that equality hasn’t quite been reached and the white man (on the right) is still racist and to blame for holding back not only blacks but now brown people too. It isn’t that I need my feelings protected; it is that we are fostering a belief system, a lie, that white people (on the right) are more likely to hold prejudiced notions than people of color. Its an absurdity as destructive to our society as the bigotry we chose to stand up to in the 1960’s. It has even nearly reached the same level in terms of violence when our nation refuses to acknowledge intimidation at the voting booth, black on white crime, juvenile hatred toward whites expressed in violent knockout attacks, police officers doing their duty tagged as racists by a prejudiced professor, and trumped up charges of racism in a self defense case. If our leadership continues to excuse and condone such behavior, indeed encourage it, I hate to think what the future will bring. That Democrat leaders go out in public and make heady comments about inclusion and tolerance when what what they actually DO when presented with real life occurrences and opportunity, is an obvious indication that something is amiss. Calling attention to this problem is, in my opinion, important and necessary if we really do care about the welfare of minorities and the state of race relations. A house divided (on purpose for political reasons) cannot stand!
Tina: “I disagree. I have never heard liberals, or anyone for that matter, express concern over minority prejudice; of course she was talking to/about whites!”
Her comments could apply to prejudice in any family or race, though. I didn’t see anywhere where she singled out whites as perpetrators of prejudice, so I’m not sure how you can reasonably read any prejudice against whites in her comments.
“And as for that grandpa of yours, without sympathies for his language, I have to say I would bet language against whites is just as prevalent in black families as are jokes poking fun at white “folk”. We cannot hope to give black and white “folk” the space to work out differences and learn to live together if we are constantly dividing people into groups with whites designated as the bad guy.”
But that’s not what Michelle Obama did.
Furthermore, while ethnic jokes can be offensive and prejudiced no matter who makes them, jokes where whites are the butt of the joke do not have broad social power to disadvantage white people. Context is everything when it comes to humor, and making minorities the butt of a joke for being minorities has a much different context than making whites the butt of the joke for being white. I’ve been called a cracker, and it didn’t have any actual effect on my life. When a black person is called the “n” word or “coon,” the term my grandfather used, it’s just one more way of the many, many ways black people are told that they are not good enough. White people as a group have not experienced that in our country.
“It isn’t that I need my feelings protected; it is that we are fostering a belief system, a lie, that white people (on the right) are more likely to hold prejudiced notions than people of color.”
I don’t think that’s the general argument. The general argument is that white prejudice against minorities is a more pressing issue than the other way around because whites, as a group, have more social power to exercise that prejudice.
Chris: “jokes where whites are the butt of the joke do not have broad social power to disadvantage white people”
Jokes don’t have the broad social power to disadvantage blacks either. The very notion today is just absurd!
“…making minorities the butt of a joke for being minorities has a much different context than making whites the butt of the joke for being white.”
Geez, Chris, you really do think that people are basically different based on the color of their skin! Even more absurd.
“White people as a group have not experienced that in our country.”
Sorry, groups of whites, as well as other minorities, have: Mick, Yankee, Cracker, Red Neck, Peckerwood, Hillbilly, Honkey, Hick, Arkie, Oakie, Hun, Heini, Kraut, Wop, Dago, Guinea, Guido, Greaseball, Hebe, Hymie, Kike, Rooskie, Roundeye, Chink, Gook, Gringo, Beaner, Spic, Polack, Bohunk, Frog…Uncle Tom & Aunt Jemima for blacks that are too white and then there’s those lovely religious labels like Bible Thumper, Holy Roller, and Evangelical!
The difference is that we never made a national victim class out of any of these. Instead we let people work things out and learn to live with one another…and we did!
“The general argument is that white prejudice against minorities is a more pressing issue than the other way around because whites, as a group, have more social power to exercise that prejudice.”
HAD! That day is over. The exact opposite is more likely today and thanks to the feminists movement, white males are even more powerless in the general population.
Your belief system stems from victim theology preached in the church of affirmative action. It’s now a bunch of crap that makes money and awards undeserved power!
Look around Chris. There are plenty of people, of every ethnicity, that have done very well on merit, creativity, effort, and risk.
It’s long past time time to allow people to rise or fall based on their character, talent, and ambition.
Evidently the Obama peckerwood never heard of “No Irish Need Apply.” *Sigh* It must be a burden to be so politically and culturally correct. The power to exercise being a quintessential liberal putz. Long live living the stereotype of a “concerned” left wing hand-wringer.
Tina: “Jokes don’t have the broad social power to disadvantage blacks either. The very notion today is just absurd!”
Ethnic jokes in and of themselves do not have that power. In the larger context of oppression, they do. Google Micro-aggressions.
You refuse to acknowledge context.
“Geez, Chris, you really do think that people are basically different based on the color of their skin! Even more absurd.”
No, I think that people have historically been treated differently because of their skin, and vestiges of that treatment are still alive and still have power today. Oppression is not a fantasy that minorities invented to give them an excuse. It’s a real thing that happened.
“Sorry, groups of whites, as well as other minorities, have:”
It’s true that Irish, Italians and other immigrants now considered “white” were treated badly in our history. But do you know how that was justified? Those groups were not considered “white” at the time.
“The difference is that we never made a national victim class out of any of these.”
Who is the “we” that makes victims? You are still implying that minorities victimize themselves.
“HAD! That day is over. The exact opposite is more likely today and thanks to the feminists movement, white males are even more powerless in the general population.”
Hahahahaha! Ridiculous. White males are still the majority of our elected officials, captains of industry, and role models. Unless you actually think white males are more talented or more driven than the rest of the population, then you must admit that prejudice and privilege play a part in this fact.
Chris: “Evidently the Obama peckerwood never heard of “No Irish Need Apply.”
Again, the Irish were not viewed as “white” when they first immigrated to the U.S. That changed somewhere along the way. Irish people now benefit from white privilege in the same way other groups who are socially recognized as whites do.