Posted by Tina
The vote was 0 to 414 in the House of Representatives last Wednesday when a budget based on the President’s 2013 budget proposal was roundly rejected by all, according to The Hill. Democrats objected because they said the Republican sponsored budget was a political gimmick that did not reflect the specifics of Obama’s proposed budget. Republican Rep. Mick Mulvaney asked why Democrats in the House had not proposed their own bill based on the President’s proposed budget in a thinly veiled accusation to suggest they could not support it in this election year. He offered his own explanation:
“The budget that the President offered and that is contained in this amendment never balances,” he said. “It is a balanced approach to reach a never-balancing budget.”
Before the night was over two other budget proposals were also rejected. One was based on Simpson-Bowles and the other a budget submitted by the Congressional Black Caucus that representatives agreed spent more money than the government has…tra la!
On Thursday, once the political fun and games were over, the House of Representatives, the people’s house, passed Paul Ryan’s latest budget on a vote of 228-191. The budget will not be embraced by Harry Reid in the Senate and the President has indicated he will not sign it.
(I am shocked!)
Both Republicans and Democrats in the House realize there is political risk in passing this budget. Democrats will do what they always do and attempt to paint Republicans as cold hearted and cruel using every excessive adjective they can think of. Republicans say they did what was necessary to move our country in the right direction. They are prepared to take whatever comes in the coming election because passing this budget was the right thing to do…it’s time to shoulder the problems we face and solve them!
Voters will decide in November; shall we continue to be a foolish nation that continues to spend beyond our means and suffer under oppressive taxation or shall we be a wise nation that takes the responsible road, no matter how difficult, to restore the promise of future prosperity and liberty for our children?
Democrat leaders, and their most ardent supporters of every generation, represent the spoiled brats of the “me generation”…the Boomers. They think they know everything and own all of the solutions, they think they know better how to spend your money than you do, and they don’t pay the slightest bit of attention to the massive debt they leave in their sizable wake.
Republican leaders, and those that support them, represent those in the Bommer generation who actually grew up and who realize that generosity with other people’s money requires maturity, restraint, and responsibility; it requires being honest about what is possible and what is not possible; it requires courage in the face of criticism; it requires having respect for those who work, create wealth and pay taxes; it requires fiscal conservatism.
Obama’s basic budget was rejected by every Representative in the House of Representatives…is it any wonder? The man never met a dollar he couldn’t spend or…waste!
Excellent post. Regardless of how the bid for the Presidential office goes, let us hope that we get a repeat of the last election cycle across the board in Congress.
But the Republican budget is awful. Republicans are opposed to the mandate in the Affordable Care Act. This is good, that is a corrupt giveaway to insurance companies.
But Republicans support privatizing social security which would be nothing more than a mandated giveaway to Wall Street.
Which is it? What does it mean to be a conservative today? Because I sure feel like the Republican party is not it anymore.
Let us hope…however, given O’s propensity to diregard, disrespect, and bypass Congress let’s go for the whole enchilada!
Agree with Pie, excellent post.
I am soooo sick of hearing the democrats and Obama spinning its a, Do Nothing Congress when the truth is we have a do nothing Senate. The Senate has become a Black Hole where bills from the House go to be never seen again.
Plus, no budget since 2009 and Reid saying hes not even going to submit one. At least Obama submitted one, but you watch hell spin it so he can say the republicans voted it down in his campaign aids. Sad result will be people will believe the aids instead of finding out the truth.
Oh, and speaking of out of control spending guess you heard the new projected cost for ObamaCare is now a new additional $17 TRILLION. No, I didnt make a mistake.
Here is one article about it.
Obamacare Creates $17 Trillion in Unfunded Financial Obligations
Senate Budget Committee estimates (based on the Obama Administrations own numbers as well as those from the Congressional Budget Office) show unfunded obligations have increased by $17 trillion, to $82 trillion since Obamacare passed in 2010.
Added to the governments existing obligation for entitlement programs like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, the total now comes to almost $100 trillion, the Washington Free Beacons Andrew Stiles writes.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/its-money-we-dont-have-but-money-were-committed-to-spend-sen-sessions-reveals-%e2%80%98obamacare%e2%80%99-creates-17-trillion-in-unfunded-financial-obligations/
Welcome to the party! Are you really telling us you just figured out the republican party is not a conservative party? When the Left call Rush Limbaugh the head of the republican party it only goes to show how completely out of touch with reality they are. Rush is a conservative and his beliefs as a conservative are very often at odds with the republican party. I am telling you this to maybe point you in a direction you have not looked.
You seem upset most of the times you post. I understand your reasons for being angry with our system and it is not going to get fixed anytime soon, sorry to say.
The next election is not about making sweeping changes to the republican party it is about sweeping away as much of Obama and his nasty finger prints as we can. I am also sorry to say it means voting for someone who is not my or your idea of a great choice. Keep in mind anyone at this point would be a vast improvement over the travesty now serving as the head of the free world.
I can guarantee whoever gets elected will have a budget and will return to the boundaries of the constitution in regard to governing. That will truly be a victory for most of us. Keep the faith, smile it is going to be fun to watch!
The Republican Party is all we have as an alternative. It’s up to we the people to enlist and elect more conservative people and that seems to be happening through the efforts of the Tea Party, talk radio and bloggers. And Toby is right the most important task ahead is cleaning up the mess that’s been made over the last three (by 2013, 4) years. We were already on an unsustainable path and the progressive Democrats have doubled down on unsustainability. They are dumb as bricks when it comes time to look at how to pay for their big ideas. Tax the rich won’t pay for a days worth of interest on the debt! Tax big oil and the rising prices to consummers will shut down the golden goose and result in less revenue to the government. MY G*d they are STUPID.
Princess you are an asset to Post Scripts for what you know but also for what you parrot.
Privatizing social security is not a mandated giveaway to Wall Street. Investment in Wall Street promises a return on your money…you would do it for yourself. Investment helps companies but in accepting your money they are also obliged to pursue profits (wealth building) in order to keep their investors happy. If they lose money you will put your money elsewhere.
The stock market has had it’s ups and downs, including crashes through the years but over time it has always gone up. There are many kinds of investments, some are much safer than others. Social Security money would be placed in a safe investment and, unless things have changed, the program would be voluntary.
Social Security is already obligatory. Money is taken from every paycheck to fund SS. The program to privatize would only take a small percentage of it to be invested in the stock market if the worker chooses.
How or why would Congress “risk” making the program voluntary?
Making it voluntary means government will not rely on your money to pay other people…and that is why Democrats don’t like it. They wouldn’t be in control of private accounts. A private account would be yours alone and the money would be passed on to your family if you die before using it. It isn’t any different from having a private 401K.
The program would be “paid for” by means testing and raising the retirement age slightly for younger workers. That way those who are retiring now (and in the future) that are well off would receive less than they would under the current system. Younger workers would have the choice to place part of their deducted SS funds in a private account. The larger persentage would continue to fund the government run SS system (to the degree that it does now). If the plan worked really well there might be a time when the people would chooses to privatize the whole thing, if not they would choose to end it.
If we can get other parts of the government budget on a more conservative path as well it will make a huge difference for all of us.
Wall Street is a voluntary system. Nobody makes you buy products and nobody makes investors invest.
Democrats demonize Wall Street and at the same time they snuggle up to Wall Street. The phony posturing reveals a corruption of power. They take cash from big corporation in exchange for favors. They demonize it to create an “enemy of the people”. If they can get voters to hate corporations they can cause voters to run to them for “protection”…it’s thuggery politics reminiscent of the Mob.
Conservatives are supported by business but for an entirely different reason. Conservatives believe in free markets and support a robust economy. They are for regulation that makes sense to keep the people safe and to support business in making money…it’s a win win policy. Republicans are at a disadvatage politically when the people are uninformed. Being uninformed makes voters vulnerable to the lies and distortions that the progressives in control of the Democrat party will use to manipulate and distort in elections.
Neither party is perfect or without it’s scoundrels. One party is for freedom, is for the people, rather than big government control…that is the Republicans. If you value freedom, if you value the Constitution and the rights it guarantees you will make sure your vote goes to the Republican candidates…the more conservative the better.
“And Toby is right the most important task ahead is cleaning up the mess that’s been made over the last three (by 2013, 4) years.” – Sorry, but the mess was created when the republicans took over the Congress and the White House. Before 2000 we had a balanced budget (actually a surplus), and were on the way to eliminating the national debt. Then the republican Congress/White House passed massive tax cuts to the rich without any offseting budget cuts. They then passed Medicare Part D and did not fund it. They passed No Child Left Behind and did not fund it. Then they got us into two wars and did not fund them either. 10 yrs of this and the economy completely crashed, and we were forced to spend hundreds of billions on TARP to prop up capitalism itself. These were all republican caused nightmares based on failed economic principles taken to their logical conclusion. Luckily, republicans failed to privatize Social Security, or we would have had our seniors completly wiped out as the stock market tanked. Over the last decade, republicans were given completely free reign of the Government and they came within a hair’s breath of completely destroying the country, while their corporate sponsors thrived. Now you people want to put them back in power, while they are only promising a continuation of their failed policies wrapped under the guise of “freedom”. What a bunch of suckers with poor memories.
Viper: “Sorry, but the mess was created when the republicans took over the Congress and the White House. Before 2000 we had a balanced budget (actually a surplus), and were on the way to eliminating the national debt.”
Well I won’t argue that Republicans didn’t spent money or grow the size of government but the balanced budget and surplus that Clinton gets credit for was managed and produced by Republicans in Congress. Had it not been for the takeover in ’94 we would have been awarded with Hillarycare, progressive programs up the wazoo, and massive debt. Clinton was smart and cooperated with Republicans. Also the recession that Bush inherited,resulting from the dotcom bubble started during the Clinton administration. 911 soon followed and we were at war. Despite the recession, 911, the war and the expansion of government (mostly homeland security), our spending to GDP ratio remained in the average zone.
http://visualeconomics.creditloan.com/presidential-spending-expenditures-by-year/
Clinton, with a Republican controlled Congress had the best GDP ratio. You should also note that the last two years of the last GWB turn spending excellorated under the Democrate takeover of the House where spending bills originate.
“Then the republican Congress/White House passed massive tax cuts to the rich without any offseting budget cuts.”
Tax cuts were given across the board and did not result in lost revenue. They did allow a recovery from his inherited recession.
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/01/ten-myths-about-the-bush-tax-cuts
Myth #10: The Bush tax cuts were tilted toward the rich.
Fact: The rich are now shouldering even more of the income tax burden.
Worth repeating!
“They then passed Medicare Part D and did not fund it.”
However, Medicare Part D is the ONLY government plan that came in under budget because it is structured with private sector principles.
“They passed No Child Left Behind and did not fund it.”
Bush stupidly let Ted Kennedy write the legislation…but funding shouldn’t really have been necessary should it? I mean what’s to fund if teachers are doing what they are trained and paid (grandly) to do…teach kids to read and write!
“10 yrs of this and the economy completely crashed”
War, defending the nation, is the ONLY thing the federal government is supposed to do under the Constitution. But the seeds of the crash were planted in the seventies by Carter then fertilized by Clinton…the housing bills passed by these two progressives set the table and when the vegetables started to rot the whole thing crashed. Forcing banks to make bad loans that soon became toxic and polluted bundled mortgage backed securities. Smart money people bet on these securities because they were often backed by…you guessed it…the full faith and credit of the US government (taxpayers).
“Luckily, republicans failed to privatize Social Security, or we would have had our seniors completly wiped out as the stock market tanked…”
Not true…a small percentage for workers under age 55 investing a small percentage of their SS funds to a private account would not have resulted in seniors “completely wiped out”. Do some reading to discover what an alternative to the unsustainable current SS system might look like:
https://www.cato.org/pubs/ssps/ssp1.html
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1997/08/bg1133
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/americas-social-security-system-case-privatizing
“republicans were given completely free reign of the Government and they came within a hair’s breath of completely destroying the country, while their corporate sponsors thrived.”
Obama supporter? Democrat supporter? YOU have no legs to stand upon. The BIG corporate sonsored candidate has been barack Obama! Also Big Union, BIG Banks, Big Hollywood!
“Now you people want to put them back in power, while they are only promising a continuation of their failed policies wrapped under the guise of “freedom”. What a bunch of suckers with poor memories.”
Get a clue sucker…unemployment is still above 8% (a true rate would be between 15% and 22%)…unemployment for the young and blacks is much higher. Debt has skyrocketed and the level of wasted taxpayer dollars is unprecedented…we have NOTHING to show for it!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74109.html