Thanks go to Peggy for this gem….
These three, short sentences tell you a lot about the direction of our current government and cultural environment:
1. We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works.
And here’s another one worth considering.
2. Seems we constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money. How come we never hear about welfare or food stamps running out of money? What’s interesting is the first group “worked for” their money, but the second didn’t.
Think about it….. Last but not least
3. Why are we cutting benefits for our veterans, no pay raises for our military and cutting our army to a level lower than before WWII, but we are not stopping the payments to illegal aliens. This is what illegal’s receive monthly, $1500.00 per child, $500 for housing, Food Stamps, Free education including college and the right to vote.
Am I the only one missing something? If not, pass this along.
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Perfect questions for the PC box dwellers!
Thank you, Peggy! Nice find!
“but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.”
We are? How? I wasn’t aware that gun owners were being unfairly judged or discriminated against. My father is a gun owner. Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly, who are leading the current charge for stricter gun control laws, are gun owners. Heck, Reagan advocated for stronger gun control laws than conservatives favor today. Believing we need stronger gun control laws is not equivalent to “judging” gun owners. Could you give some specific examples of what you mean by this?
“Seems we constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money. How come we never hear about welfare or food stamps running out of money?”
Because Social Security is funded through a specific tax, and social welfare programs aren’t.
That said, there is an easy way to ensure SS never runs out of money: lift the regressive cap.
“Why are we cutting benefits for our veterans, no pay raises for our military and cutting our army to a level lower than before WWII, but we are not stopping the payments to illegal aliens. This is what illegal’s receive monthly, $1500.00 per child, $500 for housing, Food Stamps, Free education including college and the right to vote.”
This is pure nonsense. Undocumented immigrants (not “illegal’s,” as the ignorant and punctuation-impaired originator of this meme calls them) do not have the right to vote, as I’m sure you and Peggy know. The numbers are completely invented; trust me, NO ONE on welfare is receiving $1500 per child, and certainly not undocumented immigrants. Free college education is also not commonly provided to undocumented children.
The cuts to veterans’ benefits is the only legitimate grievance here, and the blame for those cuts falls on both Republicans and Democrats.
http://www.redstate.com/2013/12/18/paul-ryan-the-gop-must-own-the-cuts-to-veterans-benefits/
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/veterans-benefits-senate-republicans-104060.html
This is one issue where conservatives and liberals should stand together against our elected “representatives” who believe that they can send our friends and family to war and then forget about them when they come home.
It’s also worth noting that food stamps and welfare programs like Medicaid are used by veterans in large numbers, and while they are not officially veterans’ programs, cuts to these services will hurt many veterans.
Chris, I can totally understand why you would say this about gun rights under duress:
“We are? How? I wasn’t aware that gun owners were being unfairly judged or discriminated against. My father is a gun owner.” Chris S.
This is because you don’t live in our world. You don’t notice the incremental changes that diminish gun ownership. Chris, they’ve been going on for decades and restrictive gun laws, fees and regulations we have today in CA have grown significantly in the past 30 years.
Guns aren’t your thing – I get it and I can respect that, not everybody should own a gun and not everyone wants too. That’s fair, but that’s not my choice and I don’t want my freedom impacted for foolish or frivolous reasons by gun grabbing liberals that I consider basically idiots.
Once again, let me say you’re welcome to your opinion, even if it’s not well founded, but don’t expect people with the facts to sit by and take it.
As an example of the ridiculous Ca guns laws that I take issue with is, mandatory marking of the firing pin with an ID number for all guns sold in California. A number of manufacturers said that’s the last straw, they just won’t sell to California anymore. Gun grabbers are delighted – gun owners very disgusted. Want another example?
I own a black rifle, it doesn’t do anything special, but California says I must fix it so the magazine can’t be released with the push of a button. I must have a tool to remove the magazine! If I don’t do this I’m considered a law breaker and subject to arrest. Yes, they can take away my freedom over a tiny technicality that has nothing to do with safety, but one heck of a lot to do with my freedom!
Need more examples Chris? If my magazine holds 11 rounds I’m a law breaker and you know what happens then, right? However, if it holds 10 rounds – I am law abiding. Here’s more…If my flash suppressor screws on I am a criminal – if it is welded on I am law abiding? Under some circumstances if my butt stock can be adjusted for fit I’m a criminal, if it’s fixed I am law abiding! And the list of things I can’t have or can’t do goes on.
Chris you may not see this as an encroachment on your freedom, but it sure is on my freedom. These laws have restrained my ability to buy the kind of firearm I feel would be best for protecting my home and my family. Now I’m a reasonable person, I am not asking for machine guns or anti-tank weapons, I’m just asking to own a semi-auto rifle that is legal in 49 other states, but not in Ca. And what about the new fees to just purchase a firearm? Those fees are for the state and everything I fill out is done for benefit of the state, not for my benefit. The state wants a record of the firearms I own – why? I’m not a criminal, these guns are not illegal to possess. They might as well be asking how many radios I own -it’s none of the freaking business and yet I have to pay for them to invade my privacy??? When the day comes to seize firearms from ordinary citizens the State will know where to look and they did it with my money – I don’t like that Chris, don’t you get it? Chris… when the State can control my life and invade my privacy they can do the same to you!
Thank you Peggy. ^5
Re #4 Chris; disjointed, rambling, non-factual, half truths and complete and utter lies :
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Pie, what lies did you find in my comment? Be specific.
Average numbers indicate it’s possible to qualify for the following:
Food stamps $500 mo (Family of four)
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families up to $900 mo
Add to these medicaid (Medical) and housing assistance and its easy to see how a family of four can realize as much as $1500 a month on assistance just from the federal government. There are also state and local benefits programs like assistance for heating and phone and school lunch programs (In some districts this includes breakfast and dinner!).
I found a very interesting site as I looked for stats to support the question: “How come we never hear about welfare or food stamps running out of money?
Did you know for instance that in 8 states welfare pays more than the average salary of a U.S. Teacher? Or that there are 10 states where people can get the equivalent of an hourly wage earner? California is one of them at $11.59. There are 12.8 million people on welfare and 46.7 million on food stamps.
There will be a tipping point very soon when the number of people working to pay these programs is just too small. Of course we should be looking at the sustainability of these programs not only because we can’t afford it but because our dollars should be working to lower the number of people who need help!
In 2012 Elizabeth MacDonald of FOX Business wrote of the $1.03 trillion federal assistance programs:
We never talk about what it would take to reduce the number of people NEEDING federal assistance. That might lead to altering the programs andeliminating bureaucracy. Oh, and as for the bureaucracy? The cost to run the bureaucracy to administer these programs is immense. In 2006, the (Food stamp) program provided benefits to 26.7 million people in an average month, at a combined federal and state cost of $35.8 billion. While most of these funds were spent on food stamp benefits for families, administrative costs totaled $4.8 to $5.7 billion, depending on how such costs are defined. The2012 administrative costs for TEFAP, a program to give food assistance to states for soup kitchens and food banks “include $49,000,000 in appropriated funds and additional $17,7999,927 after conversions and recoveries.”
Government is a poor manager and it acts as an enabler for people to remain dependent. There are better ways to help the poor…better ways to help them do better themselves…it would be nice if we could honestly talk about it. Only 4% of federal spending was needed under Kennedy for assistance. We need to find out why that has grown to 21% and how we can start to lower the number because a lower number would mean more citizens would have dignity as productive, contributing citizens.
According to this May 18, 2011 study:
That’s another transfer payment, a subsidy. Is that fair to middle class citizens struggling to send their kids to college?
This practice seems to come out of the progressive idea of “privilege” rather than “fundamental fairness” so now Americans must pay for having lived in a free country and for having been productive even if they have not led a particularly privileged life.
This idea is absurd on a number of counts.
Tina: “Food stamps $500 mo (Family of four)
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families up to $900 mo
Add to these medicaid (Medical) and housing assistance and its easy to see how a family of four can realize as much as $1500 a month on assistance just from the federal government.”
Possibly, but that’s not what the original meme said. It said: “This is what illegal’s receive monthly, $1500.00 per child, $500 for housing, Food Stamps, Free education including college and the right to vote.”
There is a huge difference between $1500 per child plus food stamps and other benefits, and a total of $1500 for a family of four including all benefits. The former would be ridiculous government overreach, if it existed; the latter is not nearly enough to get by on, and at least one parent in the home would have to be working in order for the family to survive–meaning that it’s mostly going to the right people.
“We never talk about what it would take to reduce the number of people NEEDING federal assistance.”
Who is “we?” Liberals talk about this all the time. Raising wages is really the only thing that will reduce the need, and conservatives have suddenly and almost unanimously decided to oppose anything that would raise wages–not only direct minimum wage increases, but also the rights of workers to unionize and collectively bargain for higher wages. Given that Reagan recognized collective bargaining as a “universal human right,” this is a sad turn for the party, and will cost them dearly in the future.
We make laws that hurt law abiding gun owners and do absolutely nothing to stop killings and shootings. As has been pointed out numerous times Chicago has some of the nations strictiest gun laws.
The gun laws being enacted aren’t about preventing killings and violence. They are about people who don’t believe in citizens having the right to own weapons; it’s about them having power and control.
If lawmakers were serious about curbing “gun violence” (an absurdity of the language) they would be doing something about criminals and the killings in major cities across America where most of it is happening. Chicago saw 9 dead and 35 wounded on Easter weekend.
If they cared about curbing murders and violence they would be doing something about controlling our borders.
And they would stop making jokes about morals and trying to suppress values and religious training.
Heads up on gun issue:
Bring it on indeed. Women are the fasted growing demographic of gun owners.