by Jack
The Center for Disease Control announced last week that the transmission of Ebola can be done with a cough or a sneeze. The virus can survive outside the body for about 45 minutes in cool weather, longer in colder weather. For example, if an infected person sneezes and some of that fine wet spray lands on an object and you touch it minutes later and then tough your eye, nose or mouth you could complete the transmission. Testing has shown that 21 days is not enough to show symptoms, in fact Ebola symptoms lay dormant only to emerge weeks later.
The death rate after contraction is 70%, but for pregnant women the death rate is 100%.
Nurse Kaci Hickox (shown left) just returned from West Africa after helping to fight Ebola, but she didn’t like the way she was treated by the CDC who detained her for three hours of questioning at the airport and she didn’t like the governor of her state (Maine) telling her to stay in quarantine for at least 21 days. So, she rebelled and became the object of media attention and instantly acquiring an odd celebrity status. Many of her supporters have gone out of their way to shake hands with her and the media follows her everywhere she goes. She’s also trailed by two police cars, why I am not sure, but it’s possibly for her own protection because a number of people have taken a strong dislike to her antics. They resent being placed at risk by a potential Ebola carrier and some might be frightened or angry enough to resort to extreme measures to stop Nurse Hickox from being the next typhoid Mary.
PS Hickox was a former employee of the CDC and she is fully aware of the risks of transmission. She is stubbornly refusing to cooperate because she didn’t like being told what to do or the way she was treated at the airport. She also seems to relish the publicity. So she placed her needs ahead of the public’s welfare and caused a lot of unnecessary worry and expense. I wonder how those hand-shakers are going to react if she actually comes down with Ebola?
This woman should be brought up on ethics violations and have her license revoked.
Apparently the CDC has now taken down a post on their website about the sneezes. I get they want to avoid panic. I think people panic less when they are leveled with and told the truth but, that’s just me.
Rush just reported that the nurses roommate in West Africa is showing signs of EBOLA. I didn’t get the source for the story.
Breitbart is reporting:
The world is spinning out of control. We could sure use a strong leader.
It is indeed spinning out of control. The level of criminal behavior, political corruption, school violence, bad parenting, drugs, the number of people dependent on government, we’re a sinking ship. My son has handled two shootings with one wounded just yesterday, suspects were thought to be gang members and illegals. And just before this we had two officers shot and killed in Sacramento by an illegal who had been twice deported.
You people ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
I mean … maybe there ought to be situations in which stupidity is criminalized.
In any case, I think you’ll find Breitbart’s assessment of the public health risk diminishes significantly after 11/2.
Morons.
Libby why should we be ashamed for saying the incubation period has been known to be longer than 21 days in some patients? Or that Ebola can be spread by a wet sneeze or cough. The CDC said those things, not us – why attack the messenger? We are covering the breaking news. For instance are you aware that Nurse Kaci’s former roomie in Africa has tested positive for Ebola? Does it matter to you?
I think if we took the opposite position and said that this nurse has every right to run around town during the quarantine period you would be all over us as being irresponsible morons. I think you just love to find fault and name call… Morons? Really Libby? You can do better than that.
I’m sorry, but this:
“The virus can survive outside the body for about 45 minutes in cool weather, longer in colder weather.”
is just, utter and entire, BS. No such statement ever appeared on the CDC site. You got this from one of your panderers, and it is well beyond wrong. It is shameless, inflammatory, and incorrect crap.
Furthermore, in this country, we DO NOT lock people up because they might be bombers, and we DO NOT lock people up because they might be sick.
Your promotion of this sort of thing isn’t, but ought to be, criminally irresponsible. And I am well beyond ticked.
Libby re your snarky comments…. the transmission by sneezing and coughing CAME from the CDC and so did the time element. I would not make that up and I resent being accused of lying!
CDC said and I quote, “Ebola on dry surfaces, such as doorknobs and countertops, can survive for several hours; however, virus in body fluids (such as blood) can survive up to several days at room temperature.” How in the Hell do you think Ebola would get on dry surfaces anyway, sneezing…coughing.
Since they posted this about sneezing and coughing, they walked it back saying there is no known case of transmission by coughing or sneezing, which is not to say there has not been or that it is not possible, they just don’t know.
Here the proof Ms. Smarty Pants: “WASHINGTON — The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has quietly removed some Ebola information from its website. The changes follow claims from news outlets and conservative blogs that the agency hasn’t been forthcoming about how the virus spreads, but it was not clear on Thursday afternoon whether the removal was related to the reports.”
http://nypost.com/2014/10/29/cdc-admits-droplets-from-a-sneeze-could-spread-ebola/
Sometimes Libby you just act dense and you get yourself all worked up over nothing. You insulted me and you owe me an apology…because you were WRONG.
From elsewhere on the web—
http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2014/11/ebola-update.html
Re: “The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has quietly removed some Ebola information from its website.”
Life cycles of the Ebolavirus.
(as copied from a article on how it spreads, for info purpose only no expert medical understanding on my part)
Between people, Ebola disease spreads only by direct contact with the blood or body fluids of a person who has developed symptoms of the disease. Body fluids that may contain ebolaviruses include saliva, mucus, vomit, feces, sweat, tears, breast milk, urine and semen. The WHO states that only people who are very sick are able to spread Ebola disease in saliva, and whole virus has not been reported to be transmitted through sweat. Most people spread the virus through blood, feces and vomit. Entry points for the virus include the nose, mouth, eyes, open wounds, cuts and abrasions. Contact with objects contaminated by the virus, particularly needles and syringes, may also transmit the infection.
The virus is able to survive on objects for a few hours in a dried state and can survive for a few days within body fluids.
The Ebola virus may be able to persist for up to 7 weeks in the semen of survivors after they recovered, which could lead to infections via sexual intercourse. Ebola may also occur in the breast milk of women after recovery, and it is not known when it is safe to breastfeed again. Otherwise, people who have recovered are not infectious.
Animals may become infected when they eat fruit partially eaten by bats carrying the virus.
Fruit production, animal behavior and other factors may trigger outbreaks among animal populations.
Evidence indicates that both domestic dogs and pigs can also be infected with EBOV.
Dogs do not appear to develop symptoms when they carry the virus.
And pigs appear to be able to transmit the virus to at least some primates.
Although some dogs in an area in which a human outbreak occurred had antibodies to EBOV, it is unclear whether they played a role in spreading the disease to people.
Thanks for that information Harold. That really says it in the most blunt ways, no confusion in those words. Hope Libby reads it.
Raul you make a good point, thanks for adding to our conversation. Your point is given added weight by the fact that a trained nurse that has worked on the front lines should know better and should have had more consideration for fellow citizens as part of her apparent mission to do something about this deadly disease.
RHT447 I just got to your link…excellent source material! The difference between how Nigeria handled Ebola and how other nations in Africa have SHOULD provide our leaders with a basis to form sound policy in the US. Not many of us trust that that will happen.