Posted by Jack
Voters in California are going to the polls Tuesday to decide key issues from drug-testing medical professionals to financing relief from a statewide drought.
The Field Poll is projecting a new low in California voter turnout for a general election, while the percentage casting vote-by-mail ballots could hit a new high.
The report released Tuesday predicts a 46.1 percent turnout. Of those who will vote, 60 percent will cast vote-by-mail ballots.
Of particular interest to voters is Proposition 1, a $7.5 billion water infrastructure bond. CA would invest in new water storage increasing the amount of water that can be stored during wet years for the dry year. Opponents argue that funds in the past for water projects often get diverted from their original plan and this has voters leery of giving legislators more tax money. Further they say the measure does little to relieve the current drought and will require taxpayer repayment of $360 million per year for 40 years. It looks like its just too much money without enough regulation on how the money will be spent and it will cause too much long term debt for a state awash in debt.
“Should things go wrong at any time, the people will set them to rights by the peaceful exercise of their elective rights.” – Thomas Jefferson
More voter fraud reported.
Leak Shows NAACP Is Planning Mass Fraud on Election Day:
http://patriotsbillboard.org/leak-shows-naacp-is-planning-mass-fraud-on-election-day/
Oh, fer pity’s sake, Peggy.
There should be a pill for bigots to take … but there isn’t.
Sigh.
“There should be a pill for bigots to take … but there isn’t.” Libby
Ah, but Libby there is a pill for liberals to take, it’s called Haldol, (chlorpromazine). It’s often used to treat hallucinations and psychotic behavior. You should try some, couldn’t hurt. I briefly thought of saying cyanide, but I’m too kind to go there and it conflicts with my Hippocratic oath.
Libby, you show what a bigot you are with every post you make. So, please feel free to take the pill recommended by Dr. Max. You need it!!
I just posted the facts as presented. Just because you don’t like having the facts doesn’t make them less worthy of sharing to inform others. You can stay in your lala land.
Suggest if you don’t like what I present here then don’t read it.
Maybe the election results will make the pill you need. And maybe this site will ease up on the rampant, paranoid, idiocy that’s been posted the last few months.
Peggy … did the black people steal your election?
Did they?
Don’t you feel even the littlest bit of a paranoid and bigoted idiot?
Well, we’ll see what the medication does for you over the next two years.
I anticipate a jolly time, myself.
Hee-hee.
Libby, why are you being so mean, why the name calling? Nobody here is paranoid, nobody is bigoted. This is all in your head and you need to think about that. Something is wrong with your thinking when you reach such wrong conclusions about others and do it all the time. You read into things posted way to much and reach really wrong conclusions. Anyway…I wish you well as always, but please think about this: Nobody likes to be insulted this way, you surely wouldn’t. Feel free to express your opinions on topics but, try not to go so personal, okay?
Well done, Dr. Max, and welcome to PS! We love to see people participate, our future depends on it!
Libby since you imagined Peggy’s (the rights) bigotry in the first place you might as well go ahead and imagine contrition for it as well!
You and your party are a bunch of extremists and phonies who play games with people’s lives to win power and control.
You need to take on some responsibility for record numbers of people out of the workforce and on food stamps, the rich being the only people who could make any money, a stumbling six year long non-recovery, wrecking the health care industry with over 70% of the people completely subsidized and doctors being given short shrift and a long list of other failures that have hurt blacks and women MORE THAN ANY OTHER GROUP!
You have NOTHING to brag about…hang your own head in shame!
No Libby the black people didn’t steal our election. In fact they even elected Mia Love, a black woman to the House and Tim Scott to the Senate. Of course white, yellow, blue, red and all other people of color also voted for them. People who want to help them have a better life of their own making and not one limited to a life-time of handouts from others.
Democrats like you Libs are the real bigots who pander to those in need to keep them there just to “earn” another vote.
Is 50% unemployment acceptable to you for the black youth? Can you really not figure out why the crime rate is so high, when these poor kids feel their best option is a life of crime on the streets because they have no hope for a job?
You all are the sick ones who need more than just a pill.
There’s a second great awaking coming Libs. Sorry you will miss it because of your hatred for others who believe differently than you do.
Peggy Black Republican Tim Scott was also the first candidate elected to statewide office since Reconstruction and the first black member of the Senate elected from South Carolina:
I imagine, according to Libby, Gwen is a racist who enthusiastically cast her vote for Scott only because she thought he was white or some other such nonsense!
We have to realize something, if you and I are not racist it means their policies have been all wrong and they can’t have that.
“… who play games with people’s lives to win power and control.”
Uh … who was fomenting pre-election Ebola panic? Not us.
If it makes you feel any better, I’m no happier with the OA. Significantly more disgusted, in fact.
You, being a lot of terrified mental defectives, cannot really be held responsible for the tripe you spout. And geez, it isn’t even your own tripe. You just repeat what you hear.
Obama may go down in history as having sown, by his inaction, by cozying up to Summers & Co., the next truly great depression. And we could have been somewhere else entirely. That does make me very angry.
Libby: “…who was fomenting pre-election Ebola panic?”
I don’t know Libby, maybe PBS, NPR, CNN, NYT, CBS…:
How can the spread of Ebola be stopped in the US?”
Could the Ebola outbreak spread to Europe or the US?”
“Ebola patient flew on commercial jet; why didn’t anyone stop her?”
Huffington Post:
CBS San Francisco:
What we do here Libby is discuss what is already in the news…you know that. These stories are first generated by the AP and picked up by all major news sources. I’m pretty sure you also know that
If discussion is “panic” then you are the first here to express it.
“Obama may go down in history as having sown, by his inaction, by cozying up to Summers & Co., the next truly great depression. And we could have been somewhere else entirely. That does make me very angry.”
Thanks for acknowledging the truth. I’m glad you’re angry, you should be, we all should be.
However it wasn’t inaction by Obama that caused it unless by that you mean he failed to do what has worked. Instead he chose a path that mirrored more closely the failures of Hoover and Roosevelt.
Alas, I must direct your attention to a posting on October 15, entitled “Ebola – Restrict Flights From Western Africa Now!”
Discussion? Embarrassing, that’s what that is.
And only you, Tina, could name the NYT a bastion of liberalism … and … cite a blog post decrying fear-mongering … as evidence of fear-mongering.
And I have a question for you. If you can come up with an answer, I’ll be ecstatic. What is the difference between making a quite reasonable suppose that there will likely be more Ebola cases in this country and supposing that asymptomatic people exposed to the virus should be locked up?
What sort of person made the first suppose, and what sort of person made the second?
Can you tell the difference?
Can you tell the difference between a discussion and making policy?
Can you tell the difference between simply looking at what we could do to stop the spread of the virus (around the globe) and managing it like a product to be shipped and forwarded?
Are you willing to get off your high horse and knee jerk condemnation long enough to realize that not all “experts” agree and that those who offer their expertise don’t all run to NPR to express their opinions.
My God Libby, what sort of person denies the truth about the country, Nigeria, that adopted more stringent and organized policies and saved a lot of lives in the process ending the crisis more quickly.
A little inconvenience for non-essential travelers and self quarantine are not too great a price to pay to support efforts to limit the spread of the disease. A consistent, accurate message and qualified leadership would also have gone a long way toward eliminating confusion, speculation, inconsistent opinion, and discussion about it.
You disagree and accuse us of fear mongering…but you assume we are motivated by fear, a huge mistake. You would because you are ignorant, prejudiced, and unwilling to learn. We are motivated by a grand desire to see strong leadership in our country again!
Well, I think we’re going to have to wait a couple more painful years before we get that leadership. If the Big Zero keeps up trying unconstitutional things under the pretext of presidential orders maybe he will get impeached? I would love to see him out of office, but the thought of Biden replacing him doesn’t do much for me.
Sad to say Jack we are stuck with him for another two years. He’s been tromping on our constitution since he was elected and everyone has been afraid to call him on it. They’re not going to do it now for fear of what happened after Clinton was impeached.
All the GOP leadership can do is damage control and move the economy ahead as best they can. Keeping in mind all of his EO can end upon the next, hopefully Republican, president is sworn in.
I do hope the Republican stop or slow him down by cutting off the funds. And if the SC rules next summer on the ObamaCare case on federal funds going to states that didn’t opt for the ACA the whole thing will implode.
Tina … didn’t your mother ever tell you not to answer a question with a question.
You did not answer … and so conceded me the point.
Can you not learn? Can none of you learn? Do you not have an answer?
Peggy, you really do need to do some serious reading about the election results.
Nobody turned out.
After your lot has spent the next two year doing not diddly-squat … in a presidential year … everybody will turn out … and you have to know what that means.
Four more years of gridlock.
I’ve set my sights shorter … on Mitch’s angst, anxiety and distress arising from the the stress, grief and frustration of dealing with Cruz & Co.
Fun, fun, fun.
Libby, “Nobody turned out.”
The “nobody” was Democrats. When your candidates loose by 15 points how much clearer can it be? Your own people rejected their representatives and they Reid, Pelosi and Obama because their policies were on the ballot.
You’re right your nobodies didn’t turn out. They voted from home with a no vote by not voting. They’re smarter then you all give them credit for. After all of the lies they’ve been fed the last 7 years they don’t trust your party any more.
Gridlock!!! Sweety, you really do need to come out of your bubble and read some honest publications.
Harry Reid has been the gridlock. With almost 300 bills passed by the House, some of them written and cosigned by Democrats, and over 60 job producing bills are there too. For the last six years Reid has protected the Democrats from having a voting record and Obama from vetoing the bills.
The paper dam on Reid’s desk is about to break when Mitch takes over. And he’s going to make sure the press knows that the “do nothing Congress” has really been the do nothing Senate led by Reid.
I will agree with you that the next two years the Republicans have to work together. McConnell and Cruz and their supporters have to come up with a plan that will improve our economy by putting people back to work and be able to keep more of what they earn. No more making billionaires like Reid, Pelosi, and Frank at the cost of hard working people.
Your party has made a mess of everything and the voters saw it. That’s why they lost so many representatives breaking a record all of the way back to 1929. Now that’s a record for you and your party to be proud of. New definition of loser that will last for decades to come.
“Harry Reid has been the gridlock. With almost 300 bills passed by the House, …”
And 200 of those were spurious votes repealing the ACA.
Peggy … five bucks … here and now … over the next two years, the ACA is not repealed.
Your party has not the balls to throw all those all those college student off their parents’ policies. And your party has not the balls to throw all those “pre-existing” children off coverage.
But they will have to balls to cut off funding, and if you think we won’t notice … 2016 will instruct you.
Tina: “My God Libby, what sort of person denies the truth about the country, Nigeria, that adopted more stringent and organized policies and saved a lot of lives in the process ending the crisis more quickly.”
I don’t see how that link about Nigeria either supports your point or contradicts Libby’s. I see nothing in there about travel bans, which was the major rallying cry here at Post Scripts.
That’s a sucker’s bet Libby and I’m no sucker. Of course ObamaCara aka ACA will not be repealed in the next two years because Obama will still be in the WH.
I will bet you five bucks that there will be ObamaCare changes agreed to by both parties in both houses of Congress, over the next two years, that will end up on Obama’s desk. The big unknown will be, will he sign them?
ObamaCare was shoved down the throat of this country by Democrats in Congress, without the input or yes vote of any Republican. Your party paid the price this election and when the new premium increases come out next week they will be the final nail in the coffen for any Democrat to sit in the oval office after 2016. Everyone knows Hillary Care was the forerunner to ObamaCare and will hurt her badly in her bid to be Obama’s third term replacement.
Hate to bust your bubble Libby, but 25 year olds and college students are not children, they are adults. They are legally adults who at 18 can get married without parental consent and sign up for military duty, at 21 in most states can drink alcohol, and if they commit a crime they don’t go to juvenile court they’re put on trial right alongside with other men and women and put in prison/jail.
Before ObamaCare students up to 25 could already stay on parents insurance. And children with disabilities could stay on their parent’s insurance for life. My son did until his death at age 31.
Republicans want every 25 year old to have insurance. But, we want them to be able to have jobs so they can act like adults and pay for their own premiums instead of relying on mommy and daddy to pick up the cost. AND we want them to be able to choose the plan they want and not be forced to pay for coverage they don’t want and will never need. Like gay men and 60 year old women forced to have maternity care. That’s ridiculous!!!
If Democrats had their way no one would ever grow up and be responsible. Everyone would be considered a child until they were 25 living off of their parents and then at 26 become a child of the state. What a nice utopian, lala land it would be. Except, who will be the adult if no one is raised to be responsible. Why, big government of course. Hello Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Che, Hitler. All of them the “parents” of failed governments.
The Republicans don’t need the “balls” to do anything you listed, because the American people have the “balls” to take back their country from you progressives in 2016 just like they did last week. People are smarter then you Democrats give them credit for. When the long list of lies told by Obama and his administration were uncovered your party lost the trust of the people. And when more lies come out over the next two years your party has a snowball’s chance in hell of winning the presidency.
One of those lies will be Holder’s involvement in Fast and Furious and the killing of our border guards.
“Of course ObamaCara aka ACA will not be repealed in the next two years because Obama will still be in the WH.”
Duh. So tell me, why do both Mitch and Ted keep saying that they will? Seriously … why?
What is the point in sending legislation to Obama that he will not sign … legislation that does things nobody wants done … like boot kids off coverage?
Could they be trying to distract you with these pleasing fantasies (you don’t even actually want)? Distract you from what, I wonder?
Don’t they have anything more constructive to do?
Don’t you?
Good point, Libby. Peggy’s smart enough to know that repealing Obamacare while Obama is in office is a fool’s errand…but she still votes for people who continue to vote for said fool’s errand, over and over.
Actual governance is unimportant. Symbolism is everything.
Libby I conceded nothing; I didn’t agree with your original assessment. In fact I concluded that you “decided” what we were doing is fear mongering when in fact we are simply discussing something in the news and suggesting possible remedies (Also decrying the muddled administration messaging).
You just need a constant reason to B-itch, complain and accuse. You are a sore loser looking to shift attention from the deplorable mess your Democrats have made. It’s EPIC in size and scope, this mess. Bigger than anything since the Great Depression.You should be ashamed…but you’re a progressive, viola!
It’s amazing. The radical left of your party play all kinds of fear mongering games in every single election and about every single piece of legislation considered. Its always the same BS…Republicans will starve your grandmother…Republicans will take all the money out of your kids school…Republicans plan to take SS or MCare away from you…blah blah blah! All a pack of deceptive misrepresentations of fact or flat out lies. Another favorite democrat trick…create a words and phrases to incite fear and loathing: Privitize…the 1%…The Rich…Corporations…Republicans are racist…the Tea Party is racist…the Tea Party is behind (fill in the blank) school shooting…Republicans don’t want blacks to vote…blah blah blah! All deceptions…all intended to promote fear and loathing.
None of this is offensive to you. Your position is completely phony and trumped up.
Privatize
Corporations
The 1%, the rich
Libby: “What is the point in sending legislation to Obama that he will not sign … legislation that does things nobody wants done … like boot kids off coverage?
A. There’s a little thing called overriding a presidential veto…it could happen. there are plenty of Democrats who hate this legislation because it has harmed the party if nothing else.
B. Obamacare booted kids off coverage:
That was only in one state.
Obamacare disrupted coverage for a lot of people, some of them quite sick. It’s a lousy piece of legislation. It was politically constructed. The people who put it together didn’t give much thought to unintended consequences or the damage it would do. They put it together in such a way that the CBO would score it as less costly in the early years…another deceptive trick.
Only a liberal could mention “good governance” being a problem for Republicans after six years of symbolism over substance, end justifies the means, radical partisan gamesmanship.
Chutzpah…and not in a good way.
“Privatize
Corporations
The 1%, the rich”
Tina, explain this declension, if you will?
From you, who nose at the trough, are not a corporation, and certainly not of the 1% … we are panting to know how it pertains.
Tina: “A. There’s a little thing called overriding a presidential veto…it could happen.”
No, it absolutely couldn’t happen in this case, but thanks for demonstrating how delusional your party has become.
“B: Obamacare booted kids off coverage”
No, Horizon Blue Cross booted kids off coverage rather than bring their policies up to snuff. Now those kids can get better, cheaper healthcare due to the Medicare expansion and more subsidies.
Nice try though.
Tina: “Only a liberal could mention “good governance” being a problem for Republicans”
I didn’t mention “good governance,” I mentioned “governance,” period. Your party isn’t interested in it.
Libby and Chris, The Republicans may send another repeal bill to Obama to veto just to let voters know what they will do after 2016, if they vote in a Republican president and maintain control of Congress.
Depending on how many Democrats want to keep their seats in 2016 will determine if there will be enough votes from both parties to override Obama’s veto. Since none of us has a crystal ball, we’ll just have to wait and see what happens.
When/if the Republicans do get rid of ObamaCare they need to inform voters about what it will be replaced with. Voters will not fall for another trust me, pass the bill to find out what’s in it lies again.
Democrats have a huge obstacle to overcome in earning the trust of voters they lied to. Mary Landrieu can’t hide from the “Louisiana Purchase” agreement, so she’s gone next month. Mark Begich in Alaska is loosing if he hasn’t already conceded. That will bring the count to 54 Republican senators, just 13 votes short of the required 2/3. Are there 13 Democrats who voted for ObamaCare who want to keep their seats after 2016? Maybe. Especially after seeing so many of their blue seats replaced with red.
In the House 290 is the minimal override votes and Republicans have 239. It’s a big obstacle, but not impossible.
Other bills like immigration will be major factors in a parties popularity. With Oregon voting against giving illegal immigrants drivers licenses and with tens of thousands kids crossing our borders and dispersed across the country having a negative impact on local communities’ finances I would not expect Obama’s amnesty action to be positively received.
The next two years should be very interesting and a real chess match challenge. Who will make a mistake and who will plan for the benefit of the country and not the politician.
How Does Congress Override a Presidential Veto?:
http://www.wisegeek.org/how-does-congress-override-a-presidential-veto.htm
Thanks for the complement Chris, that was nice of you. But, to be clear I vote for people who I believe will empower individuals to have control over their lives instead of those who want to take that control away and give it to the government. Socialist style governments have failed repeatedly, therefore, only a fool would want us to transform into one. Like I said, I’m no fool and only hope others aren’t either.
Peggy: “Libby and Chris, The Republicans may send another repeal bill to Obama to veto just to let voters know what they will do after 2016, if they vote in a Republican president and maintain control of Congress.”
And that doesn’t strike you as a huge waste of taxpayer time and money? It’s not like any remotely informed voter is unclear on where the Republicans stand on Obamacare. Republicans who continue to draft and vote on such impassable bills are clearly violating their own stated principles. They claim to be in favor of saving taxpayer money but continue to waste it on pointless efforts to repeal a law that will not be repealed any time soon. (And as a bonus, said law actually reduces the deficit!)
And you come close to admitting that the only reason Republicans are doing this is for popularity. It is the worst type of pandering to the base. But that’s all the party seems to know how to do anymore.
“Depending on how many Democrats want to keep their seats in 2016 will determine if there will be enough votes from both parties to override Obama’s veto. Since none of us has a crystal ball, we’ll just have to wait and see what happens.”
You don’t need a crystal ball to know that this is a completely unrealistic scenario.
“But, to be clear I vote for people who I believe will empower individuals to have control over their lives instead of those who want to take that control away and give it to the government.”
Nearly 4 million more Americans have insurance today due to Obamacare. I would say those Americans now have more control over their lives then they did before.
Lectures on a waste of taxpayer money are cheeky given what you have blessed through the years, including support of the ACA:
The weekly Standard, “CBO: Obamacare Would Cost Over $2 Trillion”
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-claims-obamacare-union-fix-will-cost-187-billion-over-a-decade/article/2535474“>Washington Examiner, “Report claims Obamacare union ‘fix’ will cost $187 billion over a decade”
None of that covers the costly “fixes” to the exchanges.
We’re also sneaking up on $18 trillion in debt.
Remember when your party was slamming GWB for the debt at $10 trillion?
Lame argument…hypocritical too.
Republicans do not oppose Obamacare or wish to repeal it for “popularity”.
The law is a piece of garbage, written in secret and sold deceptively to the “stupid” public.
It has created chaos in peoples lives, cost a fortune to implement, and will add to our national debt at a horrendous pace.
The problems you are so thrilled to have solved could have been solved with a few hundred pages and without all the pain, disruption, and chaos.
Tina: “Lectures on a waste of taxpayer money are cheeky given what you have blessed through the years, including support of the ACA”
Sure, if you rely on sources which deliberately distort and mislead about what the CBO actually says.
Keep in mind that the CBO still estimates that the ACA will reduce the deficit. If you are going to cite the CBO when it is convenient (or, rather, selective cherry-picked parts of the CBO’s reports that sound like bad news for Obamacare if you remove them from all context), then you must also accept their conclusion that the ACA will reduce the deficit.
“It has created chaos in peoples lives”
Whose, specifically? Those kids who can get cheaper, better healthcare now? Julie Boonstra’s? Oh wait, her story was completely made up. So were all the other Obamacare horror stories you’ve shared.
Do you think that your arguments will become true if you just repeat them enough times?
No Chris I don’t think having one more attempt to give the Democrats to change their votes and to vote against ObamaCare is a waste of time and money.
It’s a drop in the bucket when you add up all of the time Dirty Harry stood on the floor giving his long winded speeches against the Koch brothers. And if you add up all of the salaries of all the senators for the last six years who showed up to do the peoples work to pass bills that sat on Harry’s desk it would run into the millions more than one more vote to get rid of the worst law ever signed into law.
The Democrats are the real experts at pandering to their base. Plus, they’re even better at lying and deceiving everyone. How many times do you have to hear, “You can keep your doctor, your plan and your premiums are going to down by $2,500,” before you’ll admit you were lied to too?
Chris, you need to learn math and not the Common Core way. When you force people to give up insurance plans they liked and force them to buy plans they don’t want you don’t get to count them as newly insured. And 4 million is just over 1% of the US total population. There were better ways to get the uninsured insured without it running 1/6 of our economy to do it.
If you haven’t heard the bad news for 2015, here it is.
U.S. releases low 2015 Obamacare enrollment forecast:
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(Reuters) – The U.S. administration on Monday dramatically cut expectations for 2015 Obamacare enrollment, saying it aims to have a total of 9.1 million people enrolled in government-backed federal and state health insurance marketplaces next year.
The stated goal, 30 percent lower than a Congressional Budget Office forecast of 13 million enrollees, reflects the government’s latest thinking about new enrollees and returning customers, according to officials who expect the actual number to fall between 9 million and 9.9 million.
Released just before Obamacare’s three-month 2015 open enrollment period begins Saturday, the forecast suggests that the administration was shifting goalposts in the face of approaching challenges from a newly elected Republican Senate majority and a potentially devastating legal case before the U.S. Supreme Court.
U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell told a think tank forum that she wanted to be transparent about her team’s expectations.
Analysts said the lower numbers show the administration recognizes the challenging reality it will face during a relatively brief enrollment period. But they added that the smaller numbers could give President Barack Obama a political victory if actual enrollment surpasses the goal.”
(Sounds like pandering to me.)
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http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/11/10/usa-healthcare-enrollment-idINKCN0IU27M20141110
If anything good comes out of this whole stinking mess, at least the recommendations the Republicans tried to make before ObamaCare became law will at least have a chance of being heard. I do wonder if the Republicans will treat the Democrats the same way and lock the doors to keep them out of the discussions.
Have you figured out ObamaCare had nothing to do with providing heath care for everyone, but had everything to do with bankrupting the country and gaining control over everyone’s life?
Do you think if you simply ignore the people, the companies, and the doctors hurt by Obamacare they don’t really exist?
As long as you are satisfied that’s all that matters…your way or the highway a typical liberal position.
Gallup and Rassmussen polls showed that 1/3 of the American people have been hurt by Obamacare. That’s a fairly large percentage since many businesses were twice given waivers which means the bad news hasn’t yet become a reality for their workers.
CNBC reported last year on businesses harmed:
It hasn’t gotten better for these very real people and those that might have been given employment. The number of people no longer participating in the work force and the high unemployment numbers, especially for blacks and women, indicate the truth of it.
Kevin Wlliamson at National Review wrote, “Health Care Hell – Doctors and patients get burned by the world’s worst middleman.”
And at Free Beacon, from CNN, “Poll: Twice as Many Americans Hurt by Obamacare than Helped”:
Many of those forty-six will get the bad news this year.
Yahoo Finanace:
And what promises were made to the American people over and over again?
“If you like your plan you can keep your plan”
Uh, no!
“If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor”
Uh, no!
“Insurance premiums will be reduced by $2500.”
Guess what, no again!
In fact for some people the premium has increased and they now must also carry higher deductibles and co-pays.
The communist way, right Chris? From each according to his means to each according to his need. Only not all of the people hurt by this open-ended legislation have that much to give. You don’t give a rip.
the kids your so fond of tossing in my face as if I had personally hurt them could have been helped without creating this monstrous mess.
As far as cherry picking data is concerned, the left has been doing that for years so your accusation is not only empty of fact but also hypocritical.
October 14, 2014, The Weekly Standard:
Here’s the bottom line. National Review: “The lefts new story: nobody is hurt by obamacare”…quite illuminating in terms of left journalists’ deceptive political tactics.
You choose to believe them which you are free to do.
Looks like I’m getting closer to winning that five bucks.
Red-state Democrats rise in Senate:
“The Republican takeover is empowering senators like Joe Manchin and Heidi Heitkamp.
Republicans are about to take over the Senate, but another group is on the rise, too: red-state Democrats.
Red staters and other moderates could determine whether Mitch McConnell or Harry Reid prevails on any given cliff-hanger vote, making these Democrats the new power centers in the Senate.
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The centrists, like Joe Manchin and Heidi Heitkamp, could use their influence in the next two years to score bipartisan achievements on issues like energy and health care that could be central to their own future prospects.
(Also on POLITICO: Rand’s grand plan)
And while moderates in the minority are always significant in a closely divided Senate, this group’s decisions on bucking their own party leaders and the White House will determine whether Republicans will succeed in governing — or flop.
When asked about the prospects that his party would block the GOP agenda for the next two years, Manchin didn’t mince words: “That’s bullsh—. … I’m not going to put up with that.”
Others are saying they’re not afraid to defect on key issues.
“Our caucus needs to take a hard look at the way we do things and make sure we are putting the policy issues first before politics,” said Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), who spoke with McConnell and Reid after last week’s elections. “The habit we got into in doing nothing, no one was happy with that. I hope that we never go back to that.”
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http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/red-state-democrats-rise-in-senate-112760.html#ixzz3IphSC6sE