Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton?

by Jack

If I was forced to choose between these two, I think I would shoot myself.   Talk about a a Hobson’s choice!  It’s hard to imagine they are the best people the democrats could offer us.

Mrs. Clinton is prepared to carry on for Obama having few original ideas of her own.  In the process, she will do or say anything to be back in the White House.

We can’t afford 1 more year of Obama’s policies.  And as for this old socialist (actually a communist) Bernie Sander, he’s no catch either.  He’s willing to declare war on corporate America with new regulations and taxes to fund a bunch of giveaways that can only have two outcomes, it will either break them or drive them out of the country.

Neither of these two twits understand the military’s role in states-craft or how to build America’s economy and actually help business create jobs through capitalism.   We desperately good leadership and these two aren’t the answer.   We would be better off to pick somebody out of the phone book.

 

 

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16 Responses to Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton?

  1. J. Soden says:

    At the last debate, due to falling poll numbers, $hilLIARy wrapped herself up as another 4 years of Obama package. She hasn’t just veered left, she’s jumped left!
    And should $hilLIARy be indicted (one can only hope) I think you’ll see a draft Joe Biden or Elizabeth Warren pop up like a bad computer virus.

    • Post Scripts says:

      J. Soden, as usual your comments are spot on! Donald trump wants more accountability, more performance, less waste, from Congress and the senate. He promises to rips them a new one and presumably this will entail naming names of who these duds are that are holding us back. NOBODY in this race has the guts to do that, except Donald. America has been crying out for this for years and nobody in either party listened. Now both party’s have people running who have left their party platform behind and are basically running as individuals, even Hillary is to a certain degree. Sanders for sure is and its all because of lying and failed promises…voters are sick of it.

  2. J. Soden says:

    For your further reading enjoyment . . . .

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/01/19/watch-breitbarts-schweizer-on-how-bill-clinton-is-still-profiting-from-his-2001-marc-rich-pardon/

    . . . and all while $hrilLIARy tries to convince voters she is for the “little people.”

    • Tina says:

      I dare anyone to find similar evil connections with the corporate brothers the left loves to hate. I’d say the name but it acts as such a dog whistle for “you know who” I decided no…not up to that today.

  3. Tina says:

    Jack thank God I am not forced to choose between these two. The alternatives, Biden and Warren, are not any better.

    I’d vote for Senator Joe Lieberman (1989-2013), who was once a Democrat and is now an Independent, if I had to choose an alternative to the two main Democrat contenders. Lieberman is a moderate lefty but he loves America, is solid on foreign policy, and would support our military. Other than that I can’t think of a single Democrat that hasn’t solidly embraced the radical left ideals of increasing federal control.

    Yep, the phone book, as Buckley once suggested, would be a better bet!

  4. Peggy says:

    Food for thought. Is Trump a hustler?

    Trump: What’s the Deal? – Donald Trump Documentary – You’ve Been Trumped (2011):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-aB2GihE1k&feature=share

    • J. Soden says:

      If TheDonald loses, it will be by his own hand/mouth rather than from another candidate.

    • Tina says:

      Peggy I watched about ten minutes of the video. It was so filled with innuendo, guilt by association, cheap shots at celebrity and wealth, and accusations without substance or evidence I had to turn it off. It’s obviously a hit piece. That’s not to say there isn’t some there, there, but if you want my attention you have to hook me up front. This one didn’t.

      What do you think of the Palin endorsement? Some people were disappointed. I thunk it makes sense. Both position against the establishment politicians and both have been involved with business and unions.

      • Chris says:

        Tina: “Peggy I watched about ten minutes of the video. It was so filled with innuendo, guilt by association, cheap shots at celebrity and wealth, and accusations without substance or evidence I had to turn it off.”

        Really? Sounds right up your alley. (How many articles have you written attributing guilt by association to Obama for Ayers, Wright, etc? You were Farrakhan-baiting as recently as last week, and at the same time you were falsely claiming that Obama grew up in Indonesia. You don’t get to complain about “guilt by association” and “innuendo” without being a giant hypocrite.

        “It’s obviously a hit piece.”

        Don’t act like you have a problem with hit pieces. You have a problem with hit pieces against people you like.

        “What do you think of the Palin endorsement? Some people were disappointed. I thunk it makes sense. Both position against the establishment politicians and both have been involved with business and unions.”

        Both are allergic to facts, both constantly blame other people for their personal problems and failings, both are national embarrassments, both crave fame more than anything, and both never admit when they’re proven wrong about anything.

        Yeah, that last one: right up your alley.

        • Tina says:

          Let our readers decide

          Obama has verifiable relationships and associations with Ayers, Wright and Farrakhan. Any suggestion that he doesn’t is simply absurd. He attended Wrights church for twenty years. Farrakahn and Wright have a very close relationship. Obama worked with Ayers on the Annenberg Challenge:

          At a White House event with Bill Clinton, philanthropist Walter Annenberg announced that he was making a $500 million grant to cities across the nation to put towards public school reform. Bill Ayers led the group that brought $49.2 million to Chicago and formed the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. The kick-off in January 1995 was attended by the governor of Illinois and the mayor of Chicago, as well as many other luminaries. The first chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge was Barack Obama, a post he held until 1999 when he stepped down and remained on the board. Bill Ayers worked closely with the Challenge as a leader of the newly-formed Chicago School Reform Collaborative.

          PJ Media:

          When then candidate Obama faced off with Hillary Clinton in 2008, moderator Tim Russert queried Obama quite forcefully regarding his association with Louis Farrakhan. For those who might not recall, Farrakhan and Obama share the same neighborhood in Chicago. Along with former Weather Underground leaders Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, both Farrakhan and Obama live in Hyde Park — the upscale, politically hyperactive enclave near the University of Chicago. Barack Obama’s church, under the directorship of Jeremiah Wright, Jr., awarded Louis Farrakhan with its “Trumpet Award” for lifetime achievement in 2007.

          Wright had actually turned over the Trinity pulpit to Louis Farrakhan on a number of occasions. Black Muslims are not only welcomed but play prominently in the workings of Trinity United Church of Christ — as I saw for myself when I visited there in January of 2008.

          The church bookstore is filled with black nationalist literature, among which Nation of Islam books are prominently featured, especially those by Malcolm X. Wright was never coy about his “church’s” being a home for the black liberation theology of James H. Cone. The entire offerings of his book store were aimed at the cloaking of racist nationalism with religious trappings. Jeremiah Wright, before he studied for the “Christian ministry,” earned a master’s degree in Islamic studies at the University of Chicago. Black liberation theology is, in Cone’s own words, an attempt to forge the Christianity of Martin Luther King, Jr. with the black nationalist Muslim creed of Malcolm X.

          Louis Farrakhan, in early 2008, made a public announcement that he was indeed backing Barack Obama’s candidacy and throwing the weight of the black Muslim (Nation of Islam) community in with Obama. Russert asked Obama whether he would then publicly disclaim this support and formally reject it. And Obama performed one of his now all-too-familiar verbal two-steps, saying, “I have been very clear in my denunciation of Minister Farrakhan’s anti-Semitic comments. I think they are unacceptable and reprehensible […]. I obviously can’t censor him, but it is not support that I sought […].”

          Careful listeners noted that Barack Obama never dropped the honorific “Minister” when referring to Farrakhan.

          The Blaze:

          As part of our series on President Obama’s education and past, we interviewed Barack Obama’s first ever principal, Father Bart Janssen. Our freelance correspondent, Charles C. Johnson, went all the way to Indonesia to find out more about Obama’s past.

          Enrollment documents viewed by TheBlaze confirm that a young Barack Obama was listed as an Indonesian citizen and a Muslim on school registration in the 1960s. And while the document has been reported on before, albeit lightly, TheBlaze has compiled the most complete view thus far of the document and the circumstances surrounding it – including an interview with the president’s first-ever principal while he was in Indonesia.

          TheBlaze repeatedly photographed the document in the office of the current headmaster of Santo Fransiskus Assisis, a Catholic school that Obama attended from January 1968 to December 1970 in Jakarta. The record shows that Obama (or his parents) – at least for the period of his life – claimed to be an Indonesian citizen, that he took the last name Soetoro (the last name of his step-father, Lolo), that his religion was listed as Islam, and that he was born in Honolulu.

          Chris, believe what you will.

      • Peggy says:

        I watched about a half hour of the video before I had enough. Since I don’t like Trump the video supported my opinion of him. I think he’s built up a huge business just like his father did but on the global stage and not just in one small community.

        Cutting deals with local regulators to get permits and tax breaks works in the business world, but not in the public. Just ask Hillary about her sinking polls. Conservatives have complained about Obama’s executive orders and being a narcissist. IMHO Trump will be Obama on steroids.

        Reagan being a Democrat 30 years before being our Republican president is conceivable because of the expanse of years. Plus, he served as a Republican governor proving he acted like a conservative. Trump held hard left progressives views last year. Partial birth abortion supporter removes him from my list completely.

        The first thought that came to my mind when I heard about Palin was, what did he offer her? Sect. of Energy or other cabinet position? She sold out in my opinion. It doesn’t make sense to support true conservatives like Ted Cruz, Tim Scott, Mike Lee, etc. etc. and then jump on the Trump band wagon.

        Trump is a con artist and will do and say whatever it takes to get what he wants. He lives in a completely different world. Him saying the farmers in Scotland lived in slums and like pigs when he tried to force them to sell their land that their families had owned for generations, so he could build a golf course said a lot about his world view and elitist attitude.

        Conservative radio talk show hosts are coming out to support Cruz this weekend. I’d love to see Beck, Levine, Rush tip the scale with Palin. Trump said today she was the first person he went after for her support. I hope what she got was worth the price of loosing her conservative standing with people who once supporter her.

        I’m all in for Cruz and will vote for him in the primary. If he’s not on the ballot I’ll stay home before I’ll vote for Trump. I will vote my principles or I won’t vote. Since my vote won’t count in the general with Calif. being a winner take all electoral college vote state I hope my vote in June does count along with lots of others.

        • Tina says:

          You had a stronger stomach than I have Peggy. Since you posted the video I expected more substance and was disappointed by old celebrity video with an over voiced narrator making accusations about what was being talked about…it was such a sleazy piece of work.

          I’ve heard more than one person say you cannot get a permit for a dog house in NY without greasing somebodies hand. Between the unions and the corruption at the city level it just wonlt happen unless you play the game. It’s a different worlf than the one I live in.

          Having said that the world is a different worlds than the one I live in. When I think of Obama/Kerry negotiating with Iran I get a sense of the kind of savvy required to play in that world. Obama/Kerry either don’t have it or are in agreement with the Iranians.

          It’s naive to think a leader can manage foreign affairs, make things work to best advantage, without stepping in some mud. Sometimes a leader gets to make a choice based only on a handful of bad choices. Avoiding the hard choices is how we end up in the kid of chaos we are living in today.

          I’m not prepared to say that dealing in a corrupt environment means that a person is himself corrupt. I am willing to say that it wold take a strong constitution. Those who survive the fire best are those who relied on faith as far as I can tell.

          Trump has obviously been a good father. People who work for and with him have good things to say about how he treats people. He’s a complex man (New Yorker). The alternative choices are much worse to think about.

          Trumps popularity is an indication of just how fed up we are in America. He’s supported across many demographic lines. I guess it will be time for me to make a hard choice if it turns out he’s the candidate. I will vote for him, even if my vote is just symbolic.

        • Chris says:

          Well said, Peggy. Trump isn’t a conservative because Trump has no principles. He’s a Trumpist first and foremost. Much as I don’t like Palin even I’m surprised she is backing Trump over Cruz, who actually has an ideology.

          • Chris says:

            Conservative writer S.E. Cupp, a previous admirer of Palin, points out how bankrupt her support of Trump is:

            “Trump’s long history of liberalism is well known. He was once a registered Democrat who supported Democratic candidates, from Bill de Blasio to Hillary Clinton. He has said publicly that the economy usually does better under Democrats. At times he’s supported legalizing drugs, raising taxes on the wealthy and embracing isolationist foreign policies.

            But what’s most jarring is the positions he’s held on a number of issues that are particularly important to Palin.

            In the past, he called himself “very pro-choice.” Yet Palin — who made the very courageous and compassionate decision to have a baby she knew would be disabled — is unbothered.

            On guns, he once supported a ban on so-called assault weapons and longer waiting periods to purchase a firearm. That should be deeply disconcerting to Palin, a Second Amendment firebrand who once said, “If you control arms, you control the people.”

            And Trump has supported universal health care — expressing admiration for Scotland’s single-payer system as recently as last year. Palin spent years denouncing Obamacare, which is many steps short of a single-payer plan, as “socialized medicine.”

            These aren’t minor policy differences. The beliefs long embraced by Palin and long eschewed by Trump are fundamental to conservatism. That Trump has suddenly gotten religion — on issue after issue — should be met by Palin with suspicion.

            Over the past eight years, Palin’s influence within the Tea Party has remained strong, but her favorability rating among all Americans has dropped 40 points. Worse, her rating among Republicans has declined more than 55 points.

            But despite that waning influence, I’ve supported and admired Palin for defending life, religious liberty and gun rights, and for being a strong mother to a disabled son and another serving overseas.

            The Sarah Palin I knew in 2008 — the one who campaigned tirelessly and many times thanklessly for John McCain, a war veteran Trump has openly mocked — would have seen through Trump’s charlatan candidacy. The Sarah Palin I knew in 2008, a devout Christian whose faith was constantly scrutinized by the secular left, would have no affection for a man who is constantly scrutinizing the devout Christian faiths of other conservative candidates.

            The Sarah Palin I knew in 2008, who was a passionate and fearless voice for hockey moms, mama grizzlies and women everywhere, all while enduring patently sexist attacks from the left, wouldn’t have supported a man who calls other women bimbos and slobs, thinks women who breast-feed and go to the bathroom are “disgusting,” and criticizes another candidate for her looks.

            That Sarah Palin is gone. Maybe one day, over a beer, she’ll tell me why.”

            http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/s-e-cupp-sarah-palin-article-1.2502304

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