Inside Look at Russia

From (name withheld for personal security)

Dear Post Scripts Readers:

I’ve been in StPetersburg and Moscow for the past two weeks. As for the tragedy being played out in Ukraine, it’s been surprising to find total uniformity of opinion from Russian citizens, including groups of our (name withheld ) alumni. This is not due to “controlled media,” since all I’ve spoken with check a multitude of media sources daily on Internet, including CNN. Their ages range from 25 to 55 years, generally they are the builders of Russia’s middle class. It is not long-term support for Putin, because at least half of them weren’t supporters of Putin previously. But today the situation has changed.

Crimea:

They are adamant that Crimea has always been Russian; that Russia fought battles to keep Crimea in former centuries, and except for a small percentage of Tartars, Crimeans are ethnic Russians–and that Khrushchev turning Crimea over to Ukraine was just a fluke on paper of a discredited Soviet leader trying to impress his birthplace with his power. Many of our alumni vacation in Crimea (it has enviable warm weather), they claim they have never heard any language other than Russian spoken on Crimean streets, further that Crimeans are Russian Orthodox, and feel themselves to be Russian.

I’m told that in 1991 when Yeltsin gave all areas outside of Russia their freedom, that the Crimeans declared themselves independent. Four months later, the bureaucrats in Kiev disagreed, and unfortunately Crimea has remained politically bound to Ukraine since. Our friends remind that as children they went to summer youth camps in Crimea and vacation there routinely as adults. They have always considered Crimea a part of Russia as did the locals. Hence, when it became obvious that Kiev would no longer permit Russian as official language and rapidly began institutionalizing Western Ukrainian culture in Crimea, the locals balked. Our x x x alumni add that Crimeans were grateful and excited to be officially rejoined with Russia.

Is Russia’s Intention to capture former Soviet territories?

Russians were shocked, flabbergasted, that I would even inquire whether Russia’s leadership would try to go into the Baltic countries, Poland or any of the former Soviet Republics. So I re-asked the question …. “What would you do if you saw on TV that Russia intended to move troops into one of these former Republics?” They grew quite agitated that I might feel it even a possibility. They were adamant that under no circumstances would Russia EVER be interested in having any of those countries under its control again. It was absolutely unthinkable to them.

Will Russia take more of Southeastern Ukraine under its control?

Absolutely not, was the speedy answer across the large room. They offered that Russia may help with reconstruction if and when this war comes to an end. But NEVER will Russia annex any of Southeastern Ukraine’s land. They say any information to the contrary is pure propaganda.

Russian/Ukraine history:

Russians have always felt deeply related to Ukrainians — indeed Kiev was the very center of Russia’s history and culture. Everyone I speak with here has close relatives living in Ukraine. The two countries have considered themselves of the same stock (except for far Western Ukraine). Ukraine and Russia remind me of Siamese twins — with main arteries, bone structures, and organs being shared. Cutting, breaking them apart destroys vital flows of manufacturing, trade, other critical infrastructures–in addition to the hearts and souls of the peoples involved with each other for some three hundred years. It’s no wonder that many Ukrainian troops have defected and can’t shoot each other when forced into battle.

Ukraine has never been an independent nation of people welded together by ethnic bonds of its own. Far Western Ukraine, the European section which came under the USSR after WWII (formerly Poles, Austrians, Hungarians, and Germans), is now trying to force the rest of Ukraine, with USA help, to separation with Russia and the joining of Europe. Southeastern Ukrainians, primarily ethnic Russians, refuse to give up their language and culture and be ruled by Western Ukrainians. This is the bottom line.

Western Ukrainians fought with the Nazis against the Soviet Union in WWII, and they have since despised Russia. They of course want to be joined with Europe. I’ve recommended all along that Ukraine be split into two cooperating states. Those who want to join Europe should be allowed, but they should not drag the Russian parts of Ukraine away from their trade and close cultural ties with Russia.

Ukraine, unlike Russia, has had terrible, corrupt leaders since communism imploded in 1991. Oligarchs (and political leaders who catered to Ukraine’s oligarchs) have since run the country into the ground.

Hence ordinary Ukrainians are deeply disappointed and angry that they have not experienced order, stability, or decent economic development as has Russia, Poland, Hungary and the Baltics. Ukraine is a failed state–the war between the West and the East sectors has further devastated the few hopes that remained before the conflict started.

ENTER THE MAJOR POWER:

As far as I can tell a very slender but powerful minority in Washington decided years ago that Ukraine would be the prime place to challenge a future “come back” of Russia as one of several leading powers in the world. Archival material points out that the neoconservatives drew up a plan in 1992 that America had to be ready to take down militarily any country that would compete for its worldwide supremacy. It mentioned Russia which they felt would/could reorganize the union of former USSR republics. This minority gained momentum with both Republicans and Democrats in the Congress and the White House.

As with other countries (Iraq, Iran, Libya, Egypt, Afghanistan, Syria-since 2009) the first operations to accomplish were to demonize said country’s leaders and destabilize these countries with the intention of regime change. It might be justifiable if the situations resulted in better living conditions and opportunities for the peoples of those countries, but unfortunately, none of them have turned out this way. The USA has made drastic foreign policy mistakes in these nations.

Victoria Nuland, the U.S. State Department chief diplomat in charge of Ukraine’s future, admitted our USA taxpayers had put some $5 billion into preparing Ukraine to align with the USA and Europe –and not Russia. This resulted in the Coup overturning the duly elected President. The result is the war that is now tearing Ukraine apart. A ceasefire is being arranged by Putin and Russia is trying to get hundreds of trucks with aid supplies into the war ravaged region.

Russians reiterate continuously that their military is only for defensive purposes, that they will never start a war or a take over another country, but they will defend their borders. With Russia’s tragic history of being invaded by the Mongols, Napoleon, Hitler and others, they are understandably paranoid.

RUSSIA WILL NOT TOLERATE NATO ON THEIR BORDERS:

Justifiably so. Can we imagine what our USA military would do if the Russians (or even the Canadians themselves) were putting missile bases across the Canadian Border a within instant attack/strike distance of Washington, D.C.–or for that matter across the length of Mexico’s border with America.? Or how would France feel if Germany decided to put weapons of mass destruction on their borders? No regional, let alone world power, would accept this without fighting back somehow. Putin has resisted, and Washington acts as if this is unreasonable, unthinkable.?

My opinion is that Russia has shown remarkable restraint and cool headedness, all the while coming up with strikingly elegant solutions to defuse the dramatic situation south of their border.

Watch RT News and BBC World News for `somewhat` reasonably balanced, global, ‘red meat’ news and daily, gruesome pictures. Compare all this with the somewhat incomprehensible, advertisement/politics driven, Left/Right propaganda in our USA Media.

Let us hope and pray that wisdom will rule in Washington, D.C.–that tensions between Ukrainians will be tempered, the shooting will cease with the new Putin plan and a coalition of countries can begin helping all Ukrainians survive the winter.

Name Withheld
From St. Petersburg

September 15, 2014

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8 Responses to Inside Look at Russia

  1. Dewey says:

    So are the Russians offline yet? You know Putins new Internet to keep citizens off the worldwide net?

  2. Tina says:

    Hmmm, where to begin?

    Since this has comes to us in the form of a friendly anonymous letter I was quite interested to read what followed. I found the first portion very interesting but was taken aback when I read, “Archival material points out that the neoconservatives drew up a plan in 1992 that America had to be ready to take down militarily any country that would compete for its worldwide supremacy.”

    Archival material? Is this Dewey?

    Oh well, moving on…neocon is a term used for people who were once progressive but who moved to the right about the time Ronald Reagan said he didn’t leave the Democrat Party the Democrat Party left him (moved far left). The so-called neocons (new conservatives) also just happen to be Jewish and at times the term been used as an antisemitic slur. So right off the bat my hackles are UP!

    Next our guest contributor suggest the (Imperialist) US had designs on Russia: As with other countries (Iraq, Iran, Libya, Egypt, Afghanistan, Syria-since 2009) the first operations to accomplish were to demonize said country’s leaders and destabilize these countries with the intention of regime change.

    Could anything be any more from way out in left field?

    Once again, moving on our guests says: RUSSIA WILL NOT TOLERATE NATO ON THEIR BORDERS: Justifiably so. Can we imagine what our USA military would do if the Russians (or even the Canadians themselves) were putting missile bases across the Canadian Border a within instant attack/strike distance of Washington, D.C.–or for that matter across the length of Mexico’s border with America.?

    I found this interesting since Russia (Putin) has been planning exactly that…or at least posturing to tweek what he sees as a terribly weak, and getting weaker, America.

    July 2014 The New American:

    Russian strongman Vladimir Putin and Communist Chinese dictator Xi Jinping visited Latin America this month to push a new “international order” and boost relations between their regimes and the region’s totalitarian-minded rulers, signing huge deals with their counterparts in the Western Hemisphere on everything from trade and economic cooperation to military issues and espionage. According to analysts, the official Sino-Russo trips to the region highlight the fast-shifting geopolitical scene, with the world being shepherded in controlled fashion toward a new, “multi-polar” world order featuring a neutered United States and more unaccountable “global governance.”

    From the start, Putin emphasized the agenda behind his trip. “We are interested in strong, economically stable and politically independent, united Latin America that is becoming an important part of the emerging polycentric world order,” he said. On the domestic front, Putin touted his emerging “Eurasian Economic Union,” a misnamed “trade” bloc bringing together several “former” Soviet regimes. In Latin America, the ex-KGB figure touted similar integration schemes — particularly the Community of Latin American and Caribbean States (CELAC), which includes all governments in the Americas except the United States and Canada.

    And from The Hill

    …to the alarm of lawmakers and Pentagon officials, Putin has begun sending navy ships and long-range bombers to the region for the first time in years.

    Russia’s defense minister says the country is planning bases in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua, and just last week, Putin’s national security team met to discuss increasing military ties in the region.

    “They’re on the march,” Gen. James Kelly, commander of U.S. Southern Command said at a Senate hearing earlier this month. “They’re working the scenes where we can’t work. And they’re doing a pretty good job.”

    Kelly said there has been a “noticeable uptick in Russian power projection and security force personnel” in Latin America.

    “It has been over three decades since we last saw this type of high-profile Russian military presence,” Kelly said at the March 13 hearing.

    The U.S. military says it has been forced to cut back on its engagement with military and government officials in Latin America due to budget cuts. Kelly said the U.S. military had to cancel more than 200 effective engagement activities and multi-lateral exercises in Latin America last year.

    With the American presence waning, officials say rivals such as Russia, China and Iran are quickly filling the void.

    It would seem that Old Pooty Poot DOES have designs on our southern border, and they are not alone!

    Is this the kind of flexibility President Obama was referring to just prior to his last election…making America weak so that the fascist, aggressive IMPERIALIST ex-KGB Putin could increase his influence and power (And thus the power of the “emerging polycentric world order”)?

    Up next: My opinion is that Russia has shown remarkable restraint and cool headedness, all the while coming up with strikingly elegant solutions to defuse the dramatic situation south of their border.

    Elegant propaganda moves maybe.

    Forbes

    In its campaign in Ukraine, Russia’s propaganda and information warfare have been far more effective than military action in helping Moscow achieve its agenda while largely tying the West’s hands in its attempts to respond.

    The significance of Moscow-spun propaganda needs to be recognized and should not be underestimated. Much of the point of view of that propaganda has insinuated itself into and been internalized by the Western media, complementing Russia’s military tactics in achieving Putin’s expansionist goals. Since the start of the Kremlin’s campaign to take over Crimea in March, five myths successfully promulgated by the Russian propaganda machine have played a central role in allowing Putin to consolidate his gains in Ukraine.

    The first myth, and the one that set the events in motion, was the narrative that depicts Crimea and Eastern Ukraine as essentially Russian. Moscow’s arguments promote the concept of a Kievan Rus, or a 9th century cradle of Slavic [Russian according to Moscow] civilization in the territory of Ukraine. Yet, whatever slim basis this notion might have in medieval history, in today’s reality, according to the 2001 census, out of Ukraine’s 24 regions, only the Donetsk and Luhansk regions had populations where Russian speakers totaled more than 50 percent. And even this figure fails to distinguish the fact that in former Soviet countries, where for many years Russian was the administrative language, a Russian speaker is not necessarily an ethnic Russian.
    The second myth of Russian propaganda posits that since the Euromaidan revolution toppled the government in Kiev, Eastern Ukrainians have been calling for Russian protection from the new government. While this notion was widely disseminated and even routinely believed, the Gallup Organization conducted polls in Ukraine April 2014, which found that only 8 percent of the population in Eastern Ukraine responded ‘definitely yes’ to wanting protection by the Russian army. In contrast 52 percent responded ‘definitely no.’ …

    …The third myth of the Russian propaganda effort, the frequent reference to militias in Ukraine’s Donbas region as local “separatists,” is one that is highly relevant today and continues to obscure the facts on the ground in Ukraine. It is an open secret that these “separatists” are largely composed of Russian special-forces, Russian militias of former (contract) soldiers, Cossack and Chechen militias, and local mercenaries. …

    …A fourth, particularly cynical myth broadcast by Russia – one that has been seen as transparent in the West – is the proposition that the Ukrainian government consists of “fascists” as the Russian media would have the people of Eastern Ukraine and the rest of the world believe. This portrayal of the government in Kiev enables Russia to propound the fifth and most insidious propaganda myth: that the Russian government and its proxies are “anti-fascists.” Recently Putin compared the struggle for Donetsk with the heroic anti-fascist struggle of the Russians during the siege of Leningrad in World War II. The truth, however, is that present-day Russian “anti-fascism” is nothing more than a nationalist and xenophobic self-celebration. It has nothing to do with genuine anti-fascism, which is characterized by adherence to democratic principles, respect for international law, and the protection of human rights. …

    …It is important to debunk all these myths and in particular this final, most sinister myth of Russian “anti-fascism” and call Putin’s regime what it is: ultranationalist, populist, nativist, and directly opposed to liberal democracy. Or put another way: neo-fascist.

    More Russian posturing:

    December 2013Reuters

    (Reuters) – Russia has deployed Iskander missiles with a range of hundreds of kilometers in its Baltic Sea exclave of Kaliningrad, which borders NATO members Poland and Lithuania, the pro-Kremlin newspaper Izvestia reported on Monday.

    The missiles have been in place “for some time,” according to Izvestia’s source, a high-level Defence Ministry official it did not name. Another unnamed military source said they were deployed about 18 months ago.

    The Izvestia report followed a story in German newspaper Bild on Saturday that said secret satellite imagery showed Iskander-M missiles stationed near the Polish border.

    The reports caused alarm in Poland and the Baltic states, which are wary of Russian military movements after decades of dominance by the Soviet Union. Their alarm was aggravated by tension between Russia and the West over Ukraine.

    August 7 2014 Inquisitor
    Vladimir Putin has raised the bar on his saber rattling by sending Russian bombers to California and Alaska while armed with Russia’s nuclear weapons. Worse, some U.S. defense officials believe these 16 flights are “not just training missions.”

    In a related report by The Inquisitr, when Russian tanks invaded Ukraine and Russian bombers buzzed the U.S. coast, the response by Putin was to dismiss the possibility of war as “Russophobia propaganda.” But now some leaders in the U.S. government are claiming that another Cold War 2 has already begun.

    Unfortunately, this may be the attitude within the Russian government, as well. Recently, Paul Craig Roberts, former editor of the Wall Street Journal, wrote an article he simply titled as “War Is Coming.” In this article, Roberts noted how even advisers to Putin seem to believe World War 3 is around the corner:

    “[T]he Russian response to the extra-legal ruling of a corrupt court in the Netherlands, which had no jurisdiction over the case on which it ruled, awarding $50 billion dollars from the Russian government to shareholders of Yukos, a corrupt entity that was looting Russia and evading taxes, is telling. Asked what Russia would do about the ruling, an advisor to President Putin replied, ‘There is a war coming in Europe.’ Do you really think this ruling matters?”

    This would explain why Russian bombers “conducted at least 16 incursions into northwestern U.S. air defense identification zones over the past 10 days.” U.S. fighter jets were scrambled in order to intercept Tu-95 Russian Bear H bombers, Tu-142 Bear F maritime reconnaissance aircraft, and one IL-20 intelligence collection aircraft. According to the Russian Defense Ministry a Russian Tu-95 bomber “is capable of destroying the critical stationary assets of an enemy with cruise missiles, in daytime and nighttime, in any weather and in any part of the globe.”

    March 2013 NBC
    The U.S. is deploying 14 new ground-based missile interceptors in Alaska to counter renewed nuclear threats from North Korea and Iran, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Friday.

    The new interceptors will be based at Fort Greely, an Army launch site about 100 miles southeast of Fairbanks, Alaska, and are projected to be fully deployed by 2017, Hagel said. The additions will bring the U.S.-based ground interceptor deployment from 30 to 44, including four that are based in California.

    That will boost U.S. missile defense capability by 50 percent and “make clear to the world that the United States stands firm against aggression,” he said in a briefing at the Pentagon.
    Defense Update
    The US is scaling down the European Missile Defense program, by limiting the system’s interceptors against intercontinental ballistic missiles. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel announced yesterday the increase in the number of Ground Based Interceptors to be positioned in Alaska, and the planned deployment of a second TPY-2 radar to Japan, two immediate steps to better protect the United States of America from potential missile attacks from North Korea and Iran. The cost of these measures, estimated at one billion US$ is expected to come from delaying or cancelling future enhancements of the SM-3 Block II/B, a step which would undoubtedly relieve the tension between Moscow and Washington over the European missile defense issue
    March 2014 American Thinker

    After the events in Ukraine this past week followed by President Obama’s lackadaisical response at a press conference Saturday and Palin’s original remark that Russia can be seen from “land here in Alaska,” a 2012 article from The Voice of Russia reads a bit more ominously.

    Sergei Sayenko writes:

    …the purchase of Alaska has been surrounded by numerous rumors and myths. Some say that the US did not pay Russia in full; others insist that Alaska was not sold but was leased for 99 years. There is also a belief that the purchase treaty had been repeatedly violated, so it can be contested these days. The purchase of Alaska once inspired a popular Russian pop-rock band Lyube to compose a humorous song called ‘Don`t be a fool, America, give us Alaska back’. The song reflects Russia`s worries about Alaska, although the text has some historical inaccuracies.

    …It must be mentioned, however, that at the time when the deal was signed, many Russians regretted that Alaska was no longer theirs.

    …In the 20th century large oil and gas fields worth hundreds of millions of dollars were discovered in Alaska. Since then the region has turned into an actively developing US state with the highest per-capita GDP in the nation.

    …Probably, this is why Alaska remains a thorny issue for many Russians, with some people even suggesting taking the territory back. But one can hardly imagine Russia launching a war against the US over Alaska.

    Maybe it is far-fetched to imagine Russia going to war with America over Alaska. But the events of the past few weeks in Ukraine with President Putin ultimately in charge of the outcome while our own President has announced cutbacks to the U.S. military budget is alarming.

    When the commander-in-chief issues a stern “warning” to Putin on Saturday, and then heads to a Democratic fundraiser, Palin’s astute observation in 2008 over Obama’s lack of concern for Georgia’s independence is not only proven true but depressing as well.

    Russia’s “remarkable restraint” is more like the clever advances of a wolf in sheep’s clothing…and our academic possibly more in sympathy with Russia than the US?

    Sorry if I stepped on anyone’s toes.

  3. Dewey says:

    While it was Clinton that first broke the verbal agreement of no NATO on Russia’s Borders and every admin has followed there is a point there.

    However Putin is a dictator and no hero. He stole his election as well.

    But in the end OIL is the subject

    All war = Fossil Fuels. But go back in history and The Russian Oil infrastructure was built for Stalin By Fred Chase Koch.

    Any Pro Putin stuff is Anti American Stuff

    I do not support NATO on their Borders however the Ukraine should not be Russia’s to take.

    The Ukraine has a right to make their own decisions.
    Not my decision what another country does.

    Putin is a dictator and a monster.

    Ukraine joining the EU is not putting nukes on the Border.

    Maybe the Tea Party should defect to Their Russian Utopia Take that Caribou Hillbilly Palin with you she is an embarrassment.

  4. Dewey says:

    P.S.

    Be careful what you say about Russia and politics…

    Stay away from Fox, and their media lackeys, who are saber rattling and calling for war with Russia and other propaganda…… we need to use only truth

    Putin is upset Exxon had to pull out of a huge Arctic drilling deal with Russia. They were drilling for Russian Oil…Sanctions…

    Two US jets intercepted 2 Russian Bear long range Bomber fighters, 2 Russian Mig Fighter jets, 2 Russian re-fueler jets, aprox. 55 miles off Alaskan Coast.

    Canada also later intercepted these Russian Planes off their coast.

    While it is normal to play games in the air we have not seen these types of planes near our airspace which is only 12 nautical miles since the cold war.

    Putin is throwing a tantrum. Maybe over Exxon deal and the sanctions?

    Will the US respond? Who knows. This was Wed night.

    Russia owns RT news and uses it to play with Obama. Two anchors 1 on air have quit because they are becoming more and more Pro Russian propaganda.

    Tea Party feeds the enemy how to rattle the US by their anti Obama 24/7 and pro Putin.

    Any Pro Putin stuff at this point in time is Anti American

    I call that Treason myself.

    • Post Scripts says:

      Dewey, at PS we make free speech available to many people, if it’s topical and offers something of interest and is helpful in seeing various sides of an issue. We try to be liberal when it comes to free speech. I mean that figuratively, because we’ve come to know that most liberals don’t want free speech for anyone but themselves and that’s hardly free speech.

  5. Tina says:

    Dewey: “All war = Fossil Fuels. But go back in history and The Russian Oil infrastructure was built for Stalin By Fred Chase Koch.”

    Yes it was. So what? The world was at peace after WWI, remember, and the USSR would become our ally during WWII. There was no conspiracy, no evil plot. Just business people doing legal, mutually beneficial business.

    Fred C Koch-Wikipedia:

    In 1927, Koch developed a more efficient thermal cracking process for turning crude oil into gasoline which allowed smaller players in the industry to better compete with the oil majors. The larger oil companies quickly sued in response, filing 44 different lawsuits against Koch, and embroiling him in litigation for years. Koch was to prevail in all but one of the suits (which was later over-turned due to the fact that the judge had been bribed).[11]

    This extended litigation effectively put Winkler-Koch out of business in the U.S. for several years. Koch turned his focus to foreign markets, including the Soviet Union, where Winkler-Koch built 15 cracking units between 1929 and 1932. The company also built installations in countries throughout Europe, the Middle East and Asia.[1] In the early 1930s, Winkler-Koch hosted Soviet technicians for training.

    Stalin’s purge didn’t begin until 1936.

    Dewey your negative remarks about the Koch family are way off base.

    “Maybe the Tea Party should defect to Their Russian Utopia Take that Caribou Hillbilly Palin with you she is an embarrassment.”

    Neither the Tea Party nor Palin is interested in Russia, communism or fascism. Your comments have no basis in fact. In fact you often contradict yourself. You are one confused dude. Green fascism is at the bottom of your hatred of the Koch family. Well guess what? The environmental activist cabal is a corrupt controlling and dangerous bunch of fascist liars.

    And stop telling people what to do. We are all adults here and quite capable of deciding for ourselves.

  6. bob says:

    Well, I can see how the Rooskies are sore. After all, when the Berlin Wall came down the deal was supposed to be that NATO would not expand into the former Eastern Block countries. Heck, we’d all just be friends…We’d all jus’ git along, as Rodney King said….but that didn’t happen…instead NATO went into Eastern Europe and is now on the Rooskie’s border (in Estonia and Latvia). So how do you expect the Rooskies to react to all this?

  7. Tina says:

    bob: “when the Berlin Wall came down the deal was supposed to be that NATO would not expand into the former Eastern Block countries.”

    Do you have a reference for this deal? I recall talks about transparency, peace, freedom, more prosperity for the Russian people, and missiles but I don’t recall Nato being in the mix.

    Also what do you mean when you say NATO “went in”?

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