Rebuttal to “Isn’t Justice Supposed to Be Blind?”

From time to time, we offer guest editorials, especially when they are well written and on current events.  Both Leo and Cole have done a fantastic job of gathering their thoughts and putting pen to paper.  Here is Cole’s rebuttal to Leo’s article published last Wed.   We’ve linked Leo’s article in the first paragraph.

Guest editorial by Cole R.

The author asks “Isn’t justice supposed to be blind?” Actually, most of the time justice is blind. But only when dealing with facts and evidence.

In his essay, the author claims that an unnamed political figure violated an unspecified law, thereby committing an unspecified crime for which he cites no evidence. Justice, blind or otherwise, cannot be based on such a paper-thin premise.hillary-clinton-blood-clot-head-danger

He further claims that his suspect has avoided punishment for the unspecified crime due to the failure of a judicial system swayed by improper political influence. The fact that no charges against his suspect have been filed or prosecuted does not seem to be relevant to his calculus.

He cites the case of an unnamed military man who committed the supposed identical crime and was duly punished because he had no political influence, offering this up as his evidence of a misguided and biased judicial system.

What happens when all of these claims are fleshed out with fact?

For reasons known only to himself, the author has refrained from naming either the political figure or the military man he is referring to. Let us be specific: he is referring to Hillary Clinton and General David Petraeus (Ret.), respectively.

His accusations refer to supposedly classified emails which were reputed to be illegally maintained on a private email server, illegally disseminated, and illegally erased by Mrs. Clinton. Let us adorn these allegations with a few facts.

In March of 2015, in an attempt to upgrade its records management, the State Department reached out to all living ex-Secretaries of State for copies of “any records they had”. Mrs. Clinton was the only one to respond, providing 55,000 pages of documents (30,000 of which were emails) within days of the request. These documents spanned the entirety of her tenure at the State Department. Interestingly, Colin Powell, who also had a private email account during his term with George Bush, provided none. When pressed, Powell stated that he had deleted them all. pet2

The Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) and his staff scrutinized a sampling of Mrs. Clinton’s emails, and informed certain congressional committees that two emails contained top secret intelligence, however none of the emails “were marked classified when they were sent.” Nor were any emails stripped of their classification markings. [Washington Post 7/24/15]

In his referral to the Justice Department, the Inspector General stated that the referral was not criminal and Mrs. Clinton was not being targeted. [Reuters 7/24/15] [Washington Post 8/11/15]

Mrs. Clinton had legal authority to delete any emails which she deemed were not government records without supervision. Indeed, the National Archive Administration and State Department officers and employees are permitted and expected to exercise their judgment in determining what constitutes a government record.

As to any equivalence between the cases of Clinton and Petraeus, there is none. The author claims that Petraeus was “found guilty” of breaking federal laws and was heavily fined. In fact, Petraeus pled guilty to one misdemeanor count of mishandling classified materials, thereby avoiding a trial and probable prison sentence. Mrs. Clinton has not been charged with any crime nor any conspiracy to commit a crime. However, in at least six places in his essay, the author claims she has violated laws and committed “wrongdoings”. Yet he later states that “maybe it will be determined that a law has been broken”, and thereby not only contradicts himself, but offers up his first actual fact: no crime has yet been committed.

Justice can be blind when judgment is not clouded by false accusation, misinformation, and innuendo.

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18 Responses to Rebuttal to “Isn’t Justice Supposed to Be Blind?”

  1. Chris says:

    Props for featuring an argument from the other side so prominently.

    I admit I haven’t commented much about this particular scandal, nor have I bothered to research much into it, so I don’t know who is right here. I do think there have been a lot of fake scandals that have been made up to hurt Clinton. I also don’t find her particularly trustworthy, and if she’s the democratic nominee I’ll probably write in Leslie Knope for president.

  2. Pie Guevara says:

    Rhetorical question: Despite their resumes, who is the person who refuses to name names?

    Off Topic :
    Required reading : Black Rednecks and White Liberals

  3. Dewey says:

    Well said. Sad the only response was name calling so far.

    • Jon Gabriel says:

      Reach deep into the darkest recesses of your memories — way back in the distant past of August 8. A film called Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation was in the theaters, there was a war going on in Syria, and Donald Trump was making rude comments about reporters and Republicans.

      Back in that sepia-toned era, Hillary Clinton issued a sworn declaration that she had turned over all her work-related emails to the State Department. Yes, she might have wiped her server free of Groupons from Chipotle and Bikram Yoga, but under threat of perjury she promised to have been completely forthcoming in her official communications.

      Yeah, about that:

      State Department officials have received new official emails sent to and from Hillary Clinton that the former secretary of state never released.

      The email exchange involves a 2009 conversation with Gen. David Petraeus, who was then head of U.S. Central Command, according to a report Friday by the Associated Press.

      The conversation began before Clinton became secretary of state, but continued into the beginning of her tenure. The State Department has already admitted, thanks to documents released through the Freedom of Information Act, that it does not have emails from the first weeks of her tenure…

      A State official declined to comment on how the Pentagon obtained the document.

      I bet the Obama administration is glad they don’t have a duplicitous executive like Hillary Clinton besmirching the fine name of the US State Department anymore. Now that she’s been gone for several years, the agency can get back to the ethical and transparent professionalism that is its trademark.

      Oh, bother:

      The State Department has said over and over again that it turned over all of Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi-related emails to the committee investigating the 2012 attack.

      Turns out, that wasn’t quite the case. Foggy Bottom mistakenly failed to produce a “small number” of those emails, a senior State Department official told The Daily Beast.

      “Following our second review of former Secretary Clinton’s emails… the Department is producing a small number of emails relating to Benghazi,” the official said. The official could not say precisely how many Benghazi-related Clinton emails the State Department missed in its original review, but characterized it as a “handful.”

      The good news: it’s only a “handful” of emails.

      The bad news: State defines a “handful” as 925 emails.

      I know that she’s an ex-Senator, former First Lady, and the expected Democratic candidate. But isn’t it about time she was charged with perjury — at the very least?

      • Post Scripts says:

        Tina I’m sorry for any confusion, but Jon G. didn’t drop by, I grabbed his post from the net after Pie put up the link. I put it in because it fit so perfectly with this subject.

        I didn’t mean to mislead, I was reprinting a very good blog post Jon Gabriel wrote…thats all. My appoligies and I hope this clears it up?

        • Tina says:

          No worries Jack, I guess I missed Pie’s comment and link or I would have put it together myself.

          I guess it’s safe to say Jon G would be welcomed if he dropped by 😉

        • Pie Guevara says:

          I posted that link here? Is this this is evidence that Jack follows me on Twitter? If yes, you are in good company, Ann Coulter also follows me. So does Jon Gabriel 😀

      • Pie Guevara says:

        At the very least a charge of perjury works for me, but will it ever happen?

  4. Tina says:

    Cole you’ve done a nice job of clearing up the language used to describe accusations of legal problems Hillary Clinton could potential face. We always seek clarity so, thank you.

    There is a growing file of evidence to suggest a grand jury should look at the possibility that Secretary Clinton broke our laws in what’s commonly called “the email scandal.”

    Mark Levin (video)

    Legal expert Mark Levin makes the case that Hillary Clinton’s mere possession of information relating to the national defense on a unsecure private server places her in violation of the Espionage Act. Levin believes there is overwhelming evidence to appoint a Special Prosecutor and impanel a Grand Jury.

    National Review:

    Clinton was forced to turn over her “home-brewed” e-mail server to the FBI this week, along with a flash drive unlawfully stored at her lawyer’s office. The server and the drive are tangible evidence of Clinton’s decision to circumvent laws and procedures designed to preserve government records and keep classified information secret. She says she never knowingly sent classified information, but Clinton leaves out that the whole reason federal officials are barred from using private servers is that such systems are invisible to the classification process

    (Side note: Classified information is never marked “classified;” it is marked with “secret” designations, i.e., Top Secret. Hillary has used this word to make the claim she did nothing wrong. She’s a lawyer; she knows she’s obfuscating.)

    Legal expert and judge Andrew Napolitano, writing at TownHall expounds on Clinton’s legal situation:

    Hillary Rodham Clinton, the former first lady, U.S. senator from New York and secretary of state, used a private email server for all of her emails when she was President Obama’s secretary of state from 2009 to 2013.

    During that time, she enjoyed a security clearance identical to that of the president, the secretary of defense, the director of the CIA and others — it is the highest level of clearance the government makes available.

    She had that classified clearance so that she could do her job, which involved knowing and working with military, diplomatic and sensitive national security secrets. The government guards those secrets by requiring high-ranking government officials to keep the documents and emails that reflect them in a secure government-approved venue and to return any retained records when leaving office.

    I have not seen Clinton’s signature on any documents, but standard government procedure is for her to have signed an agreement under oath when she began her work at the State Department requiring her to safeguard classified records, and another agreement under oath when she ended her work that she had returned all records to the government.

    She violated both agreements, and she violated numerous federal laws.

    By using her personal email address — — she kept her work documents from the government. Concealing government documents from the government when you work for it is a felony, punishable by up to three years in prison and permanent disqualification from holding public office.

    Failing to secure classified secrets in a government-approved facility or moving them to a non-secure facility outside the government’s control is a misdemeanor, punishable by a hefty fine and a year in jail. Using a false email address that gives the clear impression that the user is not using a government server when she is, or one that creates the false impression that the emailer is using a government server when she is not, is also a felony.

    Just because someone has not been charged with a crime doesn’t mean there isn’t evidence to suggest she might be. This period is about investigation and collecting evidence.

    Napolitano also had questions for Obama:

    Mr. President, are you not troubled that your secretary of state had a non-secure email account and used it for all of her work? Are you not troubled that she might have kept classified secrets on a server in her barn on her estate in Chappaqua, N.Y. that the Secret Service might or might not have known about, or at a computer company in Texas that the Secret Service was unable to protect?

    Does it not trouble you, Mr. President, that foreign intelligence services likely would have had a far easier time hacking into the emails of your secretary of state because of all this? Mr. President, will your Department of Justice prosecute Clinton for retaining 48 months of classified records on her personal server after she left office, as it did Gen. David Petraeus, who kept 15 months of classified records in a desk drawer in his home after he left office?

    Mr. President, the premise of the law regulating government records is that the government owns them all, and when a high-ranking government official leaves office, the ex-official may ask the government for copies of her personal emails, and the government decides which ones it will give her. Mr. President, don’t you realize that Clinton turned the law on its head by keeping all of her emails from the government?

    Thus, rather than the government deciding which emails were personal, Clinton decided which emails were governmental, and she turned those over to the government. How does the government know what is contained in the emails she kept? Mr. President, this is a privilege that even you don’t have, and it is the very behavior that the laws you have sworn to uphold were written to prevent.

    Mr. President, did you cut a deal with Clinton’s husband that permits her to get away with this type of behavior? Mr. President, is it true that there are standards of behavior for Bill and Hillary Clinton and their friends and other standards for the rest of us?

    Mr. President, do you remember that crackpot Sandy Berger, who was Bill Clinton’s national security adviser from 1997 to 2001 and Mrs. Clinton’s foreign policy adviser when she ran against you in 2008, and who stole documents from the National Archives in 2003 by hiding them under an on-site construction trailer? Do you know that Bill got Sandy a no-jail-time deal including the return of his security clearance, and he got Sandy’s prosecutor a federal judgeship?

    Mr. President, when you ran against Hillary Clinton, you promised the most transparent government in history. Do you honestly think you have given us that?

    Legal Insurection reports that the FBI probe was expanded to include Hillary’s aids who also used her private server:

    Repeatedly, Clinton said half of all emails sent from her personal email account and contained on her home-brewed server were personal in nature and thus, not passed on to the Department of State for record retention. She’s also claimed that emails sent from secured government email accounts were automatically captured by the State Department. This carefully worded claim does not account for those emails sent to aides like Abedin, whom we now know also used a email address.

    What began as an inquisition into the former Secretary handled classified information on her unclassified server has been broadened to include her aides:

    That email, which included an update from the Africa Command of the Department of Defense detailing Libyan military movements, is part of the evidence that law enforcement officials say the F.B.I. is now examining as it tries to determine whether aides to Mrs. Clinton mishandled delicate national security information when they communicated with their boss.

    The Libyan dispatch, written by an aide to Mrs. Clinton and then forwarded to her by Huma Abedin, one of her top advisers, should have been considered classified, according to intelligence officials. And, they say, other emails to Mrs. Clinton they have found, including one addressing North Korea’s nuclear weapons system and a third discussing United States drone strikes in Pakistan, should have been marked “Top Secret.”

    There is no evidence that any of the emails — a small portion of some 60,000 that Mrs. Clinton sent or received as secretary of state — were hacked or caused any harm to American interests, and law enforcement officials have said she is not a target of their investigation. But one of the questions they are seeking to answer is whether her aides or other State Department officials broke federal rules or laws when they sent her information. And arriving at an answer will not be simple, given the complex and often conflicting views of just how diplomatically fragile the information conveyed in the emails actually was.

    …Even if Mrs. Clinton’s aides simply summarized classified material provided to them by others — as opposed to forwarding her a classified document — they may have violated federal laws that govern how intelligence information is handled, experts in government classification laws said.


    The company that Hillary Clinton paid to manage her private email network was the victim of a massive international hack during the period in which Clinton was employing it, Breitbart News has learned.

    Hillary Clinton used the company Internap as the internet service provider for her private email account during her tenure as Secretary of State. Internap, based in Atlanta, has a facility in Manhattan, near the the physical location of the IP address for

    In March 2011, the security company RSA was hacked. The hackers got into the company’s system through a malware-infested email sent to an employee, then installed a “backdoor” and stole data. RSA called it “an extremely sophisticated cyber attack.”

    RSA was not the only victim of the attack. A victim list showed that more than 760 other organizations were also “compromised.” Internap appeared five times on the full victim list.

    Five different “blocks” of Internap hosted services – which could include websites, email services, and email-storage and cloud services – were hit in the 2011 attack. A computer expert tells Breitbart News that Internap networks could have been used by the hackers to help it get to RSA or other targets.

    China was the home source of 299 of the 338 command and control networks that the hackers used to carry out the attacks, according to an analysis at the time by cyber security expert Brian Krebbs.

    There’s plenty of “there” there to suggest the necessity of a grand jury investigation.

  5. Jack says:

    What I got from Leo’s article was that he was just laying out a formula which could (and should) apply to anyone. He strongly implied that it ought to apply to Mrs. Clinton. I got it. I knew he was talking about Mrs. C., but without stating so, he was placing his emphasis solely on the methodology that should apply to all persons with a top secret clearance. That’s fair.

    Leo is right when he said its been “past practice” to immediately take punitive action against anyone who violates the terms and conditions of their TS clearance. But, not with Mrs. C.

    How Mrs. C thought she could have a private email server for government emails is beyond me, because that part was idiotic for anyone in her position. But, fortunately for her being an idiot is not illegal, otherwise she would be doing life without parole.

    Let me make this clear: When national security is at risk, any violation of a TS clearance is dealt with in the most expeditious manner and in her case it wasn’t. So, we wonder whats up?

    This may be very hard for the average person to comprehend, especially one without military experience in this area or one who has never held a TS.

    However, for those of us that have this experience, we know the rules and have witnessed how TS violations have been treated in the past.

    In our eyes, she has lied under oath before Congress, she has made false statements to investigators and this is in addition to the TS violations and so far not one charge has been filed? Not one??? Un-be-lievable!

    Please don’t tell me that she has not been found guilty of anything. That is a red herring argument. I can cite many cases where an arrest or an indictment followed immediately for less serious cases than hers.

    We do not need a guilty verdict to know wrong when we see it or said in legal terms, to have “probably cause” to believe she committed a crime. We can see what she did – its sooooooo obvious! We watched her make blatantly false statements about her server and lost emails and what she knew when she knew it. The evidence is in FBI hands.

    This is why Leo and people like myself wonder why it’s taking so long to charge Mrs. C? We wonder if she is ABOVE the law or if there is a hidden agenda here (like politics)? That’s all I’m saying and if I read Leo right, that’s all he is saying too.

    Anyone who is a true believer in Mrs. Clinton’s credibility is likely to dismiss everything I just said, but for the rest of you, I rest my case!

  6. Post Scripts says:

    This is interesting…

    “The State Department has upgraded information in nearly 200 Clinton emails to “confidential,” the lowest classification category.

    However, some analysis has indicated that the information was classified by definition when it was created. Many of the now-classified emails discuss events that were specific to a particular point in time, making it hard to believe that the discussion would be classified now, years later, rather than when generated.

    Clinton has revised her defense of her email practices by claiming that the “top secret” emails she received did not have information that was “marked” as such at the time. But many former intelligence community have criticized that defense, saying that a person of Clinton’s high diplomatic position should recognize highly sensitive information with or without markings.

    Clinton’s campaign and that State Department dismissed the second panel’s conclusion.

    “Our hope remains that these releases continue without being hampered by bureaucratic infighting among the intelligence community, and that the releases continue to be as inclusive and transparent as possible,” Clinton campaign spokesman Nick Merrill told The Times.

    Read more:

  7. soaps says:

    Cole R. ends his silly rhetoric by saying, no crime has yet been committed. He is either a very foolish person or a defense attorney. A crime has been committed from the moment of the act, regardless of whether there is later an indictment or a court conviction. This kind of legalese nonsense is an outgrowth of the “innocent until proven guilty” pc crap that has been foisted upon our nation by crusading defense attorneys and foolish teachers. In fact, a person is either guilty or innocent from the time when he either does or does not commit the act. I worked with lawyers for 24 years, and I often heard that legal axiom, which I sometimes challenged, and this was coming from prosecutors, not defense attorneys. When I said it was not true, they often said it’s in the Constitution, so I challenged that too. Unlike most lawyers, I had actually read the Constitution, and that phrase does not appear anywhere. It is also not in federal or state law. Where it actually comes from is the judge’s instructions to the jury in a criminal trial. In other words, it only applies to those 12 jurors who must suspend their disbelief and only for the duration of the case. It does not apply to the audience, reporters, or hundreds of millions of regular people in the world, who are allowed to have and state any opinion they want. After one challenge with the wager of lunch, the attorney did her research then later admitted I was right. Too bad I do not eat lunch. Another time, I asked an attorney if he was willing to go on tv and tell the world that Harris and Kleebold, the two guys who murdered (not just allegedly but really killed) all those kids at the school in Colorado, were actually innocent, were innocent, are innocent, and forever would be innocent, since they were never convicted in a court of law. He did not take that challenge.

  8. J. Soden says:

    A bit off-topic, but certainly interesting and related to the above article:

    $hilLIARy’s declining poll numbers are all of her own making . . . .

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