by Jack Lee
TOUGH GUN LAWS HELP TERRORISTS and CRIMINALS – TEXAS KNOWS BETTER THAN CA!
Good gun legislation signed into law: “Why today is possible,” Abbott began in his remarks, “is because we have legislators who stepped up, did the right thing, crafted legislation, collaborated to get the votes that were needed to expand gun rights in the state of Texas.”
The Governor thanked representatives of the National Rifle Association and the Texas State Rifle Association for keeping the pressure up on legislators in order to see the bills through to passage. Abbott said he will be signing the Campus Carry Bill (SB 11) into law later today at another location.
The Governor described the concept of genius as it relates to leaders making comments that are as true today as they were when they were said. He said the 2nd Amendment and comments from great American leaders were, and remain, expressions of genius. He quoted President George Washington first: “President Washington said ‘that a free people should not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain independence from any who might attempt to abuse them.” That’s pretty clear to me, how about you?
If only one person in the crowd at San Bernardino had a firearm! Those two terrorists that stood in the doorway, shooting, would have either been stopped right there or they would have fled and lives would have been saved. They fled when police started shooting at them moments later, why wouldn’t they have fled if people in the crowd started shooting at them? Just one person with one firearm, that’s all it would have taken! How sad and the liberals answer, is always the same – more gun laws – disarm more citizens! Well, I bet there are at least 16 people who were in that crowded room on Dec. 11th that wished they had a firearm to defend themselves. Too bad we can’t ask them. Their voices maybe be silent, but mine isn’t. Stand up to the liberal gun-grabbers before your mug is up on a memorial page.
I remember a time in the 1960’s when it was absolutely legal to have a pistol carried in a holster. You had to have a special permit to carry a firearm concealed, but you didn’t need a thing to carry it out in the open. Were those times like the wild west? No, of course not! Those times were much safer than they are today. So why do liberal keep trying to disarm honest people? Think about it.
Political Correctness also holds some responsibility for the deaths of these people.
“If only one person in the crowd at San Bernardino had a firearm, the two terrorists that stood in the doorway, shooting at random human targets would have sure fled..”
If someone in california wants a concealed gun permit they can get one. I had one. Too many Hollywood movies for Rw’ers.
But then again maybe it’s time we require all African Americans to be armed to protect themselves from the right wing nut jobs. Oh yea and Planned parenthood if ya go for a checkup make sure you take a gun!
We have bigger problems than these stupid talking points. If ya want a gun you can own one in CA. People do not feel comfortable around these right wing nut jobs who walk around with AR15’s to make up for other inadequacies. US has more gun violence because they have more guns in the hands of idiots. There will never be enough guns because they need to increase profits for investors every quarter.
Protecting our gun rights is to be responsible not have every RW nut job out there thinking they are protecting the rest of us. I prefer to take care of myself Thank You
Delusional? Idiotic nonsense. Your entire post is delusional, LOL Boy.
back at ya
Some random thoughts—
The Second Amendment to our constitution grants nothing. Our rights are unalienable, granted by God. As such, our government does not have the power to grant or revoke them. Do not let the other side hi-jack the discussion with specious terms like “legitimate hunters”.
Under original intent, the term “well regulated” means working properly and/or well trained. A “free state” is synonymous with “state of freedom”. So try this… A well trained militia being necessary for the security of a state of freedom, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Any effort to change or destroy any constitutional amendment outside the proper process of state ratification is by definition an act of sedition against the United States of America and its people.
“Individually, we do not bear arms because we are afraid. We bear arms
as a declaration of capacity. An armed man can cope – either in the city
or in the wilderness – and because he is armed, he is not afraid.
The hoplophobe fears and, yes, hates us, because we are not afraid. We
are overwhelmingly “other” than he, and in a way that emphasizes his
Interview with Jeff Cooper
Silly. There is no evidence that open carry laws are correlated with a lower crime rate or lower rates of terrorism. This article is based on an imaginary connection.
“Those two terrorists that stood in the doorway, shooting, would have either been stopped right there or they would have fled and lives would have been saved.”
Those can’t possibly be the only two possible outcomes you can think of. In order to not insult your intelligence, I’ll let you figure out the third possible outcome on your own.
Dear Chris The Genius —
How about the outcome where no one is armed. Ooops, my bad, we know what that outcome was.
yea I wish those black people had taken guns to their church to stop RW Conservative Dylan Roof.
The dilemma for the left is they don’t have the power they desire. They cannot prevent deaths and they cannot stop wars. This need to play god or to avoid emotionally difficult realities drives their thinking about those realities. They want to prevent or restrict gun sales because they think it will help but in doing so they create danger zones for the poor, the innocent, and the unsuspecting. The people that live in these zones make ripe targets for the mentally unbalanced, the fanatical zealot, and the cowardly fanatic. To accomplish their evil deeds they need to get in without being stopped…they need a soft target.
The problem for the anti-gun crowd is they can never make it harder for killers to get guns (or other weapons). Killers are motivated to get around laws and will always find a way. So the only thing accomplished with more gun laws is further restricting and blunting the rights of law abiding citizens and their ability to protect themselves and others. We have already done more than enough to restrict responsible gun owners. It’s time to get real about the underlying problems behind the domestic violence.
Within our own communities we need to address the mental health problem. We need to face up to the toxic environment we’ve created for our children. We need to stop the PC bologna and resolve issues of incivility, lack of respect, and intolerance but also what constitutes respectable conduct in society. We need to show the next generations that we value and honor life. We need to declare that some behaviors will not be tolerated and others expected. We need to stop allowing ourselves to be bullied and our lives shaped by the few. Anything goes doesn’t work; our children need a strong foundation and a safe and civil atmosphere in which to grow.
“It’s time to get real about the underlying problems behind the domestic violence.”
Hear, hear. Cain slew Able with a rock. Guns are not the issue.
” Cain slew Able with a rock”
🙂 Can’t make it any more clear than that!
I will never understand the liberal mind.
Two Muslim terrorist kill 14 and severely wound 21 more and they want to ban guns from America, but not Muslim terrorists. We are now learning DHS is not looking at the social media of visa applicants and are instructed that what they say is NOT important, only what they have done is. The PC police have decided if they blew someone up they can’t have a visa, but if they just talked about doing it we’ll let them in. Amazing!
Peggy: “Two Muslim terrorist kill 14 and severely wound 21 more and they want to ban guns from America, but not Muslim terrorists.”
I am fairly certain terrorism is already banned in America.
Also, no one has said we should “ban Muslim terrorists.” We’ve said we shoulsn’t “ban Muslims.” (That we should even have to say this shows how far our country has fallen.)
Also, far more people in America have died from gun-related deaths than from Muslim terrorists.
I don’t believe we should ban guns, but your specific argument here for why we shouldn’t doesn’t make any sense.
I don’t think guns should be
Tina what modern war was not the creation of the banks and greedy for profit? Hitler had no money. Come on now. WHo really financed the rebuild of Germany and then continued after the war. Many American Companies were involved. The real world is about financial gangsters, war, profit, power and greed.
But the left is the whole problem. So shall we exterminate them?
Anyone who wants to remove guns from folks should begin by disarming all celebrity and political bodyguards. THEN we’ll talk!
No I say we allow open carry into every legislative building in the USA
Let’s demand that!
RHT447 understands it, and both he and Tina identify problems with Gun control insanity.
It is not that we do not have enough gun laws (we need to enforce those on the books first) to control of the wrong person possessing a weapon.
However it is becoming a relentless attack on the ones designed to allow us to protect ourselves from any form of enemy. It’s those rights that are being eroded that do nothing to prevent criminal’s from possessing guns.
Government over reaches and comes up short every time. And the people most effected by their incompetent grasp are the law abiding citizens, we are the ones who always lose our rights, criminals just ignore laws.
There is evidence that open carry and concealed carry do reduce crime, in some cases by as much as 23 percent. However, the difficulty in gleaning better numbers of reduced crime is that a crime stopped or thwarted by open or concealed carry person without a discharge of the gun may never be reported. So I’ll suggest that 23 percent number is most likely higher.
But to make guns and handling them safer, what if we had mandatory gun instruction, much like driver education. People capable of gun ownership, just like car operators, would have to learn the fundamentals of operating both handguns and rifles, from shooting to cleaning. Then the people, not politicians who enjoy armed escorts, could decide if gun ownership was in their wheelhouse or not.
As to another possibility,(eluded too in post above), what was your point? get under your school desk and duck and cover, yea that will work, on the murderers behalf.
I as one don’t have a need for a third, although I do understand I would draw fire and
become a target, I would rather be in a position of defending my own life, as well as others lives and control my own destiny, then be slaughtered without any chance of fending off death without recourse.
But that’s the self reliance I was brought up to understand, one can always do better for themselves than depend on handouts.
Harold the left loves the Constitution only to the degree that it gives them license. In their heart of hearts they would reverse its tenets to make it a document of government (elitist) control. They can’t do that easily as long as we have guns and they know it.
I looked for the quote, and couldn’t find it on the web anywhere anymore, from the student who participated in the Tiananman Square pro-democracy protests and massacre that said, “Tell the Americans not to give up their guns.”
We could not receive better advice than that.
Another tea party Crazy
A Tea Party “crazy.” Based on what you feces slinging chimp?
What further proof does one need to realize that Dewey is nothing more than a stupid, hate filled, slur mongering a$$ho*e?
Pie that would be you and your paid shrill Limpbaugh.
Dewey this is a specious accusation indicative of that below the belt politics you seem to favor. Your links provide very little information.
Having read them, Id say it sounds like the dude may have been drunk or a bit crazy: “…Brad Bartelt, 47, and indicated he threatened to commit suicide or kill someone on Facebook the day before the incident on the college campus, in which no shots were fired, and there were no reported injuries.”
This wasn’t a pre-planned attack if this is an accurate account.
There wasn’t an official tie to a Tea Party organization either, just an assumption based on the Gladsden flag.
The Gadsden flag goes back to the American revolution and has been used by units the armed forces, libertarians, and other organizations like Sam’s Army and the American Outlaws, unofficial support groups for the US men’s national soccer team. It has a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag“>long history of use in America:
Individuals without ties to any organization might be attracted to this flag.
This is another historical symbol the left finds “offensive.” Perhaps because their very existence is based in “treading on” the Constitution and the American ideal of individual rights:
Give it up Dewey. We see you for what you are, a commie collectivist who stupidly thinks big government (under Bernie Sanders) is profoundly better than liberty and the rule of law.
Commie, you realize that stuff went out with McCarthy right?
You fail to own your party. Tea Party is not all warm and fuzzy.
Conservative in these parts means racist BTW. The South is right here under me. Chico is a far far cry from the real world. Right Wing Terrorism is recognized by the FBI. Guess they are all commies too.
You live in denial but yet spew hate. Meanwhile Americans are being killed. Colorado means nothing. Dylan Roof means nothing.
Mental health checks and keeping guns out of the hands of terrorists not allowed!
We better take away rights and have even more surveillance? It’s called going down into authoritarian fascism and this is how it has been done throughout history. FEAR MONGERING
Under the spell I see. Call me names but I stand on the right side.
So when is Obama gonna git yur guns anyway been waiting for years now.
I thought there were standards for this blog, but I was wrong. I get to call Chris a jacka$$ and Dewy an a$$ho*e that throws feces. Hooray for civil discourse! I’m so proud of the new Post Script standards.
Pete I would normally have edited those remarks but I was busy yesterday and didn’t skim comments for language from those who post regularly. I was counting on Pie to monitor his own language. I hope you will be able to rise above whatever offense you feel and continue on PS, We do strive for higher standards.
“I was counting on Pie to monitor his own language.”
Kind of like the frog counting on the scorpion, no?
Of course you have nothing to say about Dewey’s despicable post. You and Dewey, two peas in pod. Birds of a feather flock together.
Your words are like poetry Pie. Like the intellectual garden of Eden. Oh how I long to read your next post.
Your words are like poetry Pie. Like the intellectual garden of Eden. Oh how I long to read your next post.
Oh, yeah. Just what this country needs: 19-year-old frat boys packin’ heat. You people don’t think about anything; you just make hormonal responses.
Nobody is trying to take away your guns, and we’re all getting real tired of you and your irrational fears preventing effective gun legislation.
Oh, put a sock in it Libby.
I’d trust a trained 19 year old to defend himself and others any day. We do it all the time…it’s called the US military!
The gun laws we have, and there are many, are not enforced now. “Gun violence” is rampant where gun laws are more restrictive. Another law is not going to prevent the idiocy any more than the thousands of laws and statutes already on the books.
How about you progressives start focusing on the family and on the lousy schools and cities run by progressives where “gun violence” is a daily occurrence and ignored…YOU BUILT THESE COMMUNITIES with your PC attitudes, flexible morality, low expectations, and “tolerance.”
We’re exhausted from the mess you and your fellow travelers have made of our schools, our economy, our society, and even our military.
Tina the Gun Laws are different in every state. Mentally Ill can buy a gun. Terrorists can buy a gun. You can order guns online.
You realize where the SB guns came from?
It appears my last post may have been filtered because I used the exact language as Pie. I trust this is not the case and that freedom of speach, no matter how vile, is allowed to all.
Editors note: Your comment was not filtered. I originally missed the content because I generally trust our regular posters.
I have now repaired all language, including yours. Jack and I have both reminded our posters many times to use restraint and self-monitor for bad language because of the ER standards, because we prefer civility even as we accept heat of the moment frustrations in our free speech blog, and we also don’t much appreciate the extra work involved when our posters refuse to be responsible.
Attaching the Tea Party (of which I happen not to be a memeber) to a disturbed, suicidal man threatening to kill himself IS CIVIL?????
That will definitely raise the level of f#*king discourse. BTW…I think Dewy is a black man, so those on the left might be upset at Pie for calling him a feces slinging chimp.
No sane person takes Pie seriously. After reading his tweets to Limpbaughs bro a few years back it is easy to see through him. Black? Maybe I am or maybe I am not. Curious as to why you would think I am a black man or why it would matter?
Bottom Line if you are not a so called conservative and fall in line you are a leftie, commie, and all of the choice words of hate.
Tolerance is not allowed it is a sign of weakness. Liberty is to be able to dictate to others….That is what we fight. The hypocrisy of a conservative movement funded by fascists and a left side fueled by socially aware fascists.
tax dollars are paid for the crooks to be subsidized and the people are being squashed.
Liberty is to allow all freedom not dictate. Liberty is to stop the raid of Public assets by foreign and domestic corporations. Soon we will have to put a quarter in our own toilets to use it.
Corporate Profit has climbed very high yet the people are hurting. Balance is needed.
When it comes to unbridled hate and sheer lunacy, all you need to do is look in the mirror, chimp.
The inner child is having a hey day on PS. Perhaps it’s the holidays that take us back to childish ways. Congrats Pete, you may be the first, and if not a close second, the use the biggest bad word in the tool box.
All of our posters need to get it straight, Jack and I are not daddy and mommy…we aren’t Santa either.
Can we start over now?
Dewey, Chris, and Libby toss feces at Post Scripts and PS comment writers every time they post. THAT IS BEING CIVIL?????
Pie I appreciate your sensitivity to certain brands of “civility.” Bad language is one thing; insults, threats, accusations quite another.
We roll with it!