Options if North Korea Makes the Wrong Move

By Jack

Right now the psycho leader behind North Korea’s nuclear program has been making some very bold threats of nuclear annihilation against us.  But, what if he actually starts making overt moves to carrying out the threat?  What then, what do we do about it?

Here are Trumps options:  Decapitate the government with a tactical missile/bombing strike.  There’s a good chance we could take down many key leaders in one highly focused,  non-nuclear bombing strike and with a bit of luck, we might even kill Kim Jong-Un.

But, then you have wonder, what about day two…who do deal with then, and what will be their reply?  Educated guessing says… we have a fair chance of an all out land war to follow, or a low chance of a coup, an open revolt, against the government.  Odds are not great here, but from a world view and a practical military view, this might be the best option IF we absolutely were convinced military action was necessary.

Next option, we could use non-nuclear weapons to attack their nuclear research facilities, just to send the message, “Look, we’re serious… knock it off.”  This could backfire and enrage little monster even more.  Chances are, it would send him over the edge with his paranoia and that means we are risking  mass casualties starting in South Korea.  Give this option a low chance of success with a high chance of war to follow against South Korea.

Go to the UN, ask for sanctions, wait while things escalate and we risk the lives of US citizens and South Koreans in order to follow the highest possible code of conduct.  Turn the other cheek as it were!  Then if the UN fails us (and it will) and North Korea continues…. oh, wait, that’s where we are now.  Gotcha.

Do nothing about the threat and just wait to see.   Lets see if the pycho-killer will march right up to the red line and stop, being the little coward that he is or will he cross it?  In the latter case there will be high casualties in South Korea, including US forces.  Our people will be at greater risk to harm via another land war.  We will likely resume a long drawn out and expensive bloody war with very modest UN help.

So, we have 50-50 chance that Kim Jong-Un is all bluff.   Not good, not good at all, when so many lives are on the line.   If we wait too long, we will lose a significant tactical advantage (and many troops).

If we do nothing and they hit South Korea with all they have, the carnage will be horrific, it might as well have been a nuclear attack!   However, if he (Jong-Un) does nothing, well, we called his bluff the consequences of him continuing as the great leader will be compromised for a time.  We’ll look good having stared him down…score on for us.  Unlikely we’ll come out on top on this gamble.

In a last resort, if things look really bad (and they do) and Kim Jong-Un is reaching for that nuclear trigger…. no more Mr. Nice Guy.  We could use “tactical” nuclear weapons first.  These are low yield, battlefield weapons, that are very effective for killing everything in a quarter mile radius.  These limited nukes could take out North Korea’s leadership fairly easily, unless they had time to hide in some bomb shelter that is unknown and out of reach.

So, based on their (nuclear) performance,  it would be an 80% chance we could take out the leadership, including Jong-Un.  And if we continued, we could hit their military with tactical nukes and destroy any possible threat with a 90% chance of success.  The Downside is both predictable and probable.  The world reaction….of course, the world would be horrified, our allies would recoil at our ruthlessness.

Russia and China could see this as a prelude to nuclear war and an imminent threat to them.  They might be moved to launch their own ICBM type nukes in preemptive strike, probably a low 5% chance of that happening.   More likely we would get a lot of hate from many sources for  a long time, even internally.  That hate could severely damage us in many ways and be counter-productive to being a leader for peace.  Although, North Korea would certainly cease to be a threat for the foreseeable future!

 

 

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14 Responses to Options if North Korea Makes the Wrong Move

  1. Dewster says:

    Tomorrow is founders day where his grandpa who founded N Korea is celebrated. The idiot Kim JU will celebrate by showing the world some military power. A test missile or?

    Idiot Trump will get his gonads off by striking ….

    We all loose while 2 nutjobs flex muscle.

    WW3? Who knows but it will not end good for us either

    We have more enemies with powerful militaries than friends

    • Post Scripts says:

      Dewey, I hope you did not stake your reputation on that statement about tomorrow. I don’t think anything is going to happen tomorrow.

      • Dewster says:

        I hope not. But realize the timing.

        That bomb in Afghanistan? Look I wondered if that timing was to show Kim JU we can bomb their tunnels. Well it does not matter what I think cause Kim took it that way. Everything in N Korea is underground.

        So that was an excalation on the part of the US.

        A game of chicken is stupid.

        MIC is out of control. I do not believe Trump is really making decisions. He is not in control. He is being played. Out of his league.

        The man was playing golf by Fri eve as usual. He does not have the capacity to lead. He thinks he is the CEO of USA Inc.

        Sorry but that is just the truth.

        The world does not trust us and we are becoming a laughing stock.

        Put away party politics

        Look he is flipping on his campaign stuff as he learns he did not know what he was talking about.

        The Presidency is just not what he is designed for.

  2. Tina says:

    Jack our leaders have a lot on their plates. It’s times like this when I’m thankful for their experience and leadership qualities. The desire to avoid war is certainly understandable. The question is always when and how. Once again my consideration is the will of the people. So many of our citizens are unwilling to follow through when things get tough so whatever they decide, should a response become necessary, I hope the plan is to go in strong and win decisively.

    As for our allies, I think a number of them are pretty fed up with what has happened in the world without strong leadership from America. NATO members have said they will meet their financial obligations (2% of GDP) as well as their military obligations since Trump and Pence challenged them.

    Time will tell…the history of the world is not one of peace. Seems there are always narcissistic nut cases with dreams of world domination in their heads strutting around. KJU is no exception.

    • Dewster says:

      Tina please explain their leadership qualities. Sorry but there is no leadership.

      The Admin is a mess. Bannon on his way out. His son and law/Daughter in charge of way too much stuff. None of them even know how gov works, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

      WHat Leadership? We are not a Trump Business.

      Add up the security money spent on protecting our Royal Family as they travel for business. Look at the cost to kill 36 ISIS – 300 Million. They were being defeated. They killed more than that that week using conventional methods.

      The Syria stunt? What did we gain at that expense?

      What leadership?

      • Tina says:

        I’d explain Dewey, I have before on other subjects, but your mind is filled with tar. You are an output channel. You spew the same stuff, a combination of progressive crap from old media and lefty blogs mixed with strong themes out of Hollywood. It would be a useless exercise on my part to explain.

        I’ll give you one bone to chew on in case there’s a tooth left…a strong leader doesn’t have to be expert at everything, instead he picks good people. Once they’ve decided on a plan going forward he gets out of the way and let’s them work.

        Trump accomplished quite a bit by meeting with the world’s leaders. The media just isn’t reporting it. For instance in talks with China’s President:

        China agrees to the framework of a 100 day outline to assemble the trade way-points for renegotiated bi-lateral trade deals.

        What did that action cost Trump?

        ♦ For the first time ever, China did not support Russia in a U.N. Security Council veto vote surrounding Syria. China abstained.

        What did that action cost Trump?

        ♦ China turned around 12 fully loaded cargo ships laden with imported coal from North Korea. 400,000 metric tonnes refused unloading. China begins an embargo against North Korean coal. China begins importing coking coal for steel-making from the U.S. coal mines.

        What did that action cost Trump?

        ♦ Additionally, in furtherance of economic sanctions – China halts oil exports to North Korea.

        What did that action cost Trump?

        ♦ Additionally, in furtherance of political isolation – China halts direct flights between Beijing, China and Pyongyang, North Korea.

        What did that action cost Trump?

        ♦ And in the most stunning seismic shift of geo-political alliances, China says it is now open to discussions of a denuclearized North Korea, meaning getting rid of N-Korean nukes, WITHOUT N-Korea being included in the talks. Hello? China, the United States, Japan, Russia and South Korea discussing how to de-nuke North Korea. (A new Marshal Plan of sorts)

        What did that action cost Trump?

        See how this works? What affirmative action did President Trump have to take in order to get China to move toward the position of mutual benefit?

        Answer: None!

        Dewey, you just don’t know what you’re talking about…no surprise there.

    • Dewster says:

      We are the ones causing war. We are always at endless war for profit.

    • Peggy says:

      This may or may not be a duplicate. When I tried to post it the first time I got a message to slow down I was posting too fast, even though I hadn’t posted more than a comment in days. The second time I tried it said it was a duplicate of something I’d already posted, but it didn’t appear waiting approval. So, I’m going to be a pest, since this is soooo good IMHO, and try again. More is better , right? LOL

      ———–
      Good read. Obama compared to Stanley Baldwin.

      Hanson: Why history won’t be kind to Barack Obama:

      “Last year, President Obama assured the world that “we are living in the most peaceful, prosperous and progressive era in human history,” and that “the world has never been less violent.”

      Translated, those statements meant that active foreign-policy volcanoes in China, Iran, North Korea, Russia and the Middle East would probably not blow up on what little was left of Obama’s watch.

      Baldwin was a passionate spokesman for disarmament. He helped organize peace conferences. He tirelessly lectured on the need for pacifism. He basked in the praise of his good intentions.

      Baldwin assured fascists that he was not rearming Britain. Instead, he preached that the deadly new weapons of the 20th century made war so unthinkable that it would be almost impossible for it to break out.

      Baldwin left office when the world was still relatively quiet. But his appeasement and pacifism had sown the seeds for a global conflagration soon to come.

      Obama, the Nobel peace laureate and former president, resembles Baldwin. Both seemed to believe that war breaks out only because of misunderstandings that reflect honest differences. Therefore, tensions between aggressors and their targets can be remedied by more talk, international agreements, goodwill and concessions.

      Ideas such as strategic deterrence were apparently considered by both Baldwin and Obama to be Neanderthal, judging from Baldwin’s naive efforts to ask Hitler not to rearm or annex territory, and Obama’s “lead from behind” foreign policy and his pledge never to “do stupid s—t” abroad.

      Aggressors clearly assumed that Obama’s assurances were green lights to further their own agendas without consequences.

      Iran routinely threatened U.S. Navy ships, even taking 10 American sailors into custody early last year. Obama issued various empty deadlines to Iran to cease enriching uranium before concluding a 2015 deal that allowed the Iranians to continue to work their centrifuges. Iran was freed from crippling economic sanctions. And Iran quietly received $400 million in cash (in the dead of night) for the release of American hostages.”

      continued…
      http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/04/13/hanson-why-history-wont-be-kind-to-barack-obama/

    • RHT447 says:

      Indeed. Whether it’s KJU or some strung out meth-head, things get dicey when you’re trying to deal with someone who has nothing to lose.

  3. Dewster says:

    Also Tourism in the USA is suffering. Trump is not good for the economy. Everyone is afraid to spend the little they have.

    • Post Scripts says:

      If Americans are not spending, it’s not because of Trump, it’s more likely to be because of Obama. Trump has not had enough time in office to impact much, although Wall Street has been buoyed by their optimism for his policies.

      Dewey, I believe you are 180 out on this one.

      Next, in reply to your statement that America is causing wars, again, nothing could be further from the truth. Brutal Islamic radicalism and their stupid belief that all infidels must die has caused no end of war and death in the Middle East and acts of violence around the world.

      Primitive African tribalism/creed/corruption and ethnic cleansing, has caused countless wars and deaths across Africa. They were doing this long before there was an America and it continues to this day, albeit under new banners, but still the same old blood letting.

      Ruthless communist oppression and aggression also account for wars and deaths just like the Nazi’s. America had little to nothing to do with the Russians that began embracing communism and later created many brutal dictators, notably Stalin who killed more people than Adolph Hitler.

      Dewey it is nothing short of stunning how you sell your country short while failing to hold the real barbarians and warmonger accountable. We’re nothing like those bad people and war torn places. Shame on you, go sit in the corner you need a time out.

  4. Pie Guevara says:

    Every time a useless, supercilious, half-baked, brain-dead prog troll posts a comment in this forum (you know who you are) this song gets stuck in my head —

    Cosmik Debris

  5. Pie Guevara says:

    Re Post Scripts “Dewey, I hope you did not stake your reputation on that statement …”

    Everything Dewey has posted in this thread is consistent with his reputation.

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