Trump v. Hillary

by Jack

Indiana is over, Cruz has dropped out, now it’s Trump v. Hillary. Well, well, well, there’s a Hobson’s choice for you. I know… I’ve said it before, but not in this context. It really is going the be a showdown between these two New Yorker’s and this is a race unlike any we’ve seen before.

One candidate is so cocky he won’t listen to anyone and never seems to know when to shut his mouth. The other can’t open her mouth without telling a lie or saying something that if it was ever done, would surely bankrupt whats left of this severely damaged nation.

I know we’re in trouble folks and I know the Republican Party is in serious trouble. In fact this election year will spell the doom of the GOP as we know it. In many ways it already has, the GOP has changed…they’re starting to listen to their rank and file! Glad handing, back slapping and insincere promises just aren’t enough anymore. People actually want results – imagine that?

A chapter in political history, (for better or worse) was written the day Trump began his race for the White House and it continues. It began with all the usual rules and protocols going right out the window with Trump and a new era of populism was ushered in.

The voters were primed and ready for a populist movement to shake up Washington, heck the people of this country were practically ready for an insurrection, the level of anger and frustration was that bad! The lousy job done by both Dems and Reps made it possible for a guy like Trump. You might say, he just got lucky and happened to be in the right place at the right time. Now he’s riding high and seems unstoppable.

Is the GOP shook up, heck yeah, that would be the understatement of the year! Phase one of the populist movement is now complete: GOP in disarray, institutionalism floundering, powerful factions are either, siding with Trump, infighting or looking for cover. You haven’t seen nuthin yet, just wait until phase two starts (the general election).

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92 Responses to Trump v. Hillary

  1. Chris says:

    If Trump wins, the very meaning of conservatism will change. The movement won’t be salvageable as anything but an anti-immigration party, since that’s the only conservative principle Trump seems to hold. Other than that, he has no real beliefs; he only believes in himself.

    Clinton would be bad for conservatives, but only in the same way Obama was bad for conservatives; she’d at least give you guys a good enemy. Trump would split you in two.

    He would not govern as a conservative, but as a tyrant who tried to make rules by his whims, without any sort of predictable ideology or plan. He would also be one of the least informed presidents ever, having made some of the most bizarre and inaccurate statements about everything from the employment rate to foreign policy. (Clinton has made many inaccurate statements too, but in her case, she’s usually lying. Trump believes the stupid things he says.)

    Something to consider.

    • Pie Guevara says:

      Re: “If Trump wins, the very meaning of conservatism will change” and the rest of this inane tripe.

      No it won’t. Trump is not a conservative.

      Truly, you sir, are a moron. Such a moron that you even contradict yourself with “He would not govern as a conservative, but as a tyrant” which is, in itself, an idiotic prediction.

      Your self serving predictions are just that, self serving, as are all your comments in this forum.

      • Chris says:

        It would have probably been more accurate to predict that the meaning of “Republican” will change, but given that Republicans are primarily made up of conservatives, your response is overly hostile pedantry, as usual.

      • Dewster says:

        I do not buy any of this. Political Theater and the power of their Media to control voters.

        Bottom Line they are both dangerous. Trump is not qualified to run a gov. Hillary is a republican neoliberal. While she is qualified she is an insider and the way they do Business in DC is a far very from your vision. Expect more military waste and more wars. Endless profit wars from either of them.

        In the end it is the fault of the American People for their ignorance.

        Ever see how they convince people to vote? The say candidate A is a tyrant so you vote against them, same with candidate B. The lessor of 2 evils never one you really believe in.

        The level of election fraud is very very high as well. This election will be a sham again.

        But it is not over. Did the Republican establishment really roll over for Trump? Can Bernie and his supporters contest the convention? Bernie supporters are pissed at the election fraud and do not care if Trump wins. Maybe 4 years of a buffoon will wake people up out of this 2 party system.

        The battle of the Millionaires to steal the country.

        Meanwhile while in CA

        Concentrate on local and state elections. Do not elect millionaire businessmen and wall street people. America is for sale. The crooks come in both red and blue using social issues to divide you.

        I will not be voting for either of those 2 regardless. I will never vote for a corrupt politician again.

        • Tina says:

          “Maybe 4 years of a buffoon will wake people up out of this 2 party system.”

          The last eight years of buffoonery have done little to “wake people up out of this 2 party system.” why would four more?

          And what if the guy surprises us all?

          You haven’t exactly presented voters with a viable alternative. Hating big corporations and loving big government isn’t attractive at all, especially since what usually results is full blown fascism…government in control of private companies. You’d be trading a manageable headache for full blown stage four cancer.

          “I will never vote for a corrupt politician again.”

          Amusing Dewey, very amusing. Anyone can be corrupted at any time. Corruption has many faces. DC is a caldron of corruption.

          My hubby had a good idea. Sequester the Congress…move them to Nevada, right out in the desert away from Reno or Las Vegas. Require them to stay there till they balance the budget and create a tax/regulatory structure that doesn’t punish job creators and will begin to bring down the debt. We’d expect a lot of reform legislation. If they manage it they get to serve again, if not, they’re out on their ears. These guys have forgotten why and who they serve. The morning session should be a seminar based on the Constitution. In the afternoon they can work on the budget. And in the evening they can do committee work, starting with staying within budget.

    • Dewster says:

      Consider this:

      A Goldwater conservative would be considered a moderate republican today.

  2. Chris says:

    I had heard that Trump suggested Ted Cruz’s father had something to do with the Kennedy assassination, but assumed it was satire mistaken for a real story. Nope. He actually said this:

    Trump originally brought up the allegation Tuesday morning. “I mean, what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death, before the shooting?” Trump asked. “It’s horrible.”

    But Trump, who now faces an easy path to the Republican nomination, defended his comments.

    “All I did was refer to it. I’m just referring to an article that appeared. It has nothing to do with me,” he said. “The National Enquirer gave you John Edwards. It gave you O.J. Simpson. It gave you many, many things. I mean, you can’t knock the National Enquirer. It’s brought many things to light.”

    I thought Trump voters said they were tired of slimy politicians? Trump is as slimy as it gets. He is a pig.

    • Peggy says:

      Kudos go to Jake Tapper at CNN for calling out Trump’s lie he was pushing about Cruz’s father associating with JFK’s killer.

      CNN’s Jake Tapper: Linking Cruz’s Dad To Lee Harvey Oswald Is ‘Shameful’ (VIDEO):

      CNN host Jake Tapper on Tuesday absolutely skewered GOP frontrunner Donald Trump’s suggestion that his rival’s father was somehow connected to Lee Harvey Oswald, the man who assassinated President John F. Kennedy.

      Tapper’s spiel, which lasted about two minutes, tore apart Trump for repeating an unsubstantiated report from the National Enquirer that claimed Sen. Ted Cruz’s (R-TX) father appeared in a photo with Oswald around the time of the murder. Tapper characterized the report as “bizarre” and “completely uncorroborated.”

      • Tina says:

        Trump didn’t do himself any favors parroting the story. it was especially dumb since he has already won Indiana when he said it. I’d like to know who’s responsible for the Enquirer story.

        Apparently both Rubio and Cruz teams repeated the uncorroborated story that Carson was leaving the race, which some people claim cost Carson some votes. They attacked Cruz but not Rubio.

        Politics is not bean bag as they say.

        Notice, we’re still talking about the failings of Republicans. When will Democrats be scrutinized with such vigor? Or is it that they are so boring and just represent more of the same failed policy if the last seven years?

    • Dewster says:

      Trump is doing the same type of media manipulation he has always done. He is a scholar of dictators. He knows how to use media to control the masses. He has never hid any of this. He is proud of it.

      Problem is he is also crazy. If the GOP made backroom deals and allow him to be the nom? End of GOP as we know it.

      Same goes for DNC who has now booked Comcast as a convention speaker. The most hated company in America? End of DNC as we knew it.

      Both parties no longer afraid to show their fascist colors.

  3. J. Soden says:

    The GOP Establishment in DC have nobody but themselves to blame for Trump’s rise. They failed to LISTEN to voters for years, and played their “go along to get along” games in DC and the “silent majority” is silent no more.
    And the Demwits are just as bad offering by only offering a choice between $hrilLIARy and Bernie.
    Gonna be a cold day in Hades before I ever vote for an “incumbent” again!

  4. Tina says:

    Well, well, well. Jack posts a story, Trump vs Hillary, and so far the focus is on Trump. You can’t fault him for his ability to grab attention.

    And Jack’s right, this will be a race like none other we’ve seen.

    It’s true that the GOP has been a big disappointment. But come on guys, as big a disappointment as the last nearly eight years under Obama? Question: What is it that allows that party to fail so spectacularly and still be spared the scorn they so richly deserve?

    As “slimy” as Trump may be he doesn’t hold a candle to the slime of both Bill and Hillary Clinton. It’s disgusting that Hillary has the support of any woman in America. The Clinton’s shared history of assault and abuse of women is long and sordid. Add to that the record of lying and illegal activity, the possibility of indictment (As well as the possibility of another escape from being held accountable), and her absolute failure as secretary of state and it’s a wonder she’s still standing at all. The only reason she is still standing is that she’s been annointed by the Democrat elites. The Sanders faction is well aware of this and angry as hell. Exit polling in Indiana show Bernie took votes away from Hillary among young people, white voters, political independents and people who most value honesty in a candidate. The Democrat Party is not without its infighting and division.

    Democrats are pretending that the failures in the ME and the lousy economy aren’t serious issues that they created. They are pretending that Obamacare is doing just fine. They stand in a pile of garbage and the bones of the unemployed and smile…smile, as if they had just won an Olympic gold medal! You can be sure that these issues are front and center in the minds of the American people. When the election turns to a contest between Hillary and Trump, Hillary will be the only one of the two candidates who represents the Olympic sized failures of the last eight years.

    Trump was not my first choice but he is my choice now, warts and all. His warts look like beauty marks next to the craters and pits marring Hillary Clinton AND the socialist Democrat Party.

    Trump will win. Trump will grab the headlines against a woman who is by turns drab, shrill, or pathologically lying. Trump will fight for a better America. Trump has the ability to crush whatever rocks the left will throw at him. Trump can be crude and bombastic but even with that, he is the superior candidate and the only choice left to anyone who wants our economy growing, plenty of jobs, a supported military, an improvement in foreign relationships, and someone who will stand up to our enemies and get control of the border.

    • Pie Guevara says:

      You have to be impressed with Chris’ obsession with Trump, as idiotic as it is.

    • Harold says:

      Not having a horse in the race from early on, I can’t say I am surprised by this outcome.

      My only wish is to see Hillary defeated so badly (bad enough to get her out of campaigning for any office, could someone send her a email to that effect please) that it will restore some of my faith in the voting system, along with the under informed soundbite American voters realizing the error of their voting habits

      Hillary is purely political period, and she is good enough at it to be considered right up there with Slick Willy, but she is not Presidential.

      Trump may not have been the GOP voters first choice but given the line up of Hillary verse Trump, he is the only choice America has.

      As J.Soden stated earlier, Politicians have created this all because of their own self serving agendas, along with the misinformed voters who allow a incumbent of no value to remain in office.

      It does appear maybe America is starting to wake up.

      • Chris says:

        Harold: “My only wish is to see Hillary defeated so badly”

        You understand there is no chance of that happening if Republicans nominate Trump, right?

    • Dewster says:

      The economy? Start with Reaganomics and stop by the deregulation of wall street by presidents after, move on up to the GW tax cuts for the rich while keeping 2 wars off the books and the market crash……..

      Trade deals? War for profits? Bush’s and Clinton’s

      We have not really elected a president in decades it is all rigged and now very documented.

      The fascists tried to physically overthrow the FDR WHite House and failed. They did take us from the inside. That is also well documented.

      We all know that the JFK assassination was not as told. We all have a theory.

      One thing I know for sure was JFK introduced the silver certificate and was taking us back to a real $ standard and those silver certs were gone after he was killed.

      Executive Order No. 11110 went into effect in June, 1963 what happened 5 mos later?

      Bottom line sure is funny we are still dealing with the private bank called the fed reserve and fascist rule.

      Get a flippin clue we know 1/10th of what really goes on.

  5. Peggy says:

    I’m disappointed Cruz dropped out last night and I’m appalled that Trump will be running as the Republican candidate. Today, as a conservative I can’t vote for a man who was a Democrat just last year, says Planned Parenthood does good things, and wants gov’t run health care. As a Christian I can’t vote for a married man who bragged about having hundreds of affairs and forcing people off of their property for his personal and business gains.

    I have not and am not a “Never Trump” voter, but am a strong believer in Reagan’s 80% rule. Trump doesn’t meet my 20% benchmark. Therefore, unless he changes and increases his rating I will either vote for Cruz or not vote. He has to earn my vote because I will not lower my standards to his level. He disgust me and does not represent my values.

    “If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.” ~ Alexander Hamilton

    Hillary, if she isn’t indicted, will destroy our republic by continuing Obama’s agenda. The transformation will be completed and we will be a socialist nation to the core. The Daily News’ front page has the GOP elephant in a coffin, which is an accurate meme of the Republican party.

    The GOP is all in for Trump now, because they believe he will work with them to continue their cronyism. They have the perfect candidate to maintain the status quo now that Cruz their major headache has been defeated.

    And with the help of the media who has fallen in love with Trump because of the high ratings he’s bringing them he just may beat Hillary. The MSM gave Trump three times more coverage than Cruz and twice the coverage of Sanders. Hillary is boring compared to the carnival barker who will every day make sure his name is the lead story and on the front page.

    Yup, just like the media gave us Trump as the GOP candidate I can see them making him our president for at least the next four years to keep their cash-cow producing.

    • Dewster says:

      Planned parenthood providing healthcare for women is a bad thing? Oh really?

      Bottom Line Trump is dangerous and he has no experience. Also he is the biggest liar of them all. He has no diplomacy he is used to being a dictator. Why won’t he release his actual tax returns? because he is hiding something? No he would be proud of his wealth. Trump’s main business is selling his name to other peoples projects not building. Most likely he is not as rich as he says and that would ruin his branding. He has bankrupted his businesses, he makes his $ off of selling his “Trump” name which = Rich.

      Trump has many a doc about him and his media manipulation. Dig back into time.

      Hilary is 100% bought out corportist. Look at her donors. look at How Cruz’s donors are funding her. heck she is prob the biggest arms dealer we had!

      Sorry Cruz was a Phony too. They are all working for the Big Money Interests and pandering to the people. They will not do anything they say.

      The media launders the money and runs the elections for the oligarchs bar none. Tell you what to think, lie and keep real news out of the public view.

  6. Peggy says:

    One more thought.

    If Trump is elected president I don’t believe he will serve out his first term. Unlike the Republicans the Democrats will not hesitate to impeach him for violating our Constitution and laws. He’s a big bad white man who is the poster child of capitalism and a member of the 1% club. He’s the perfect target for everything the progressives and socialist hate. Taking him down will be their goal from the very beginning.

    • Post Scripts says:

      Being shot is more likely… hate to say. But, I agree with you, the liberals will go absolutely berserk if Trump gets in there. lol That part I can’t wait to see.

      • Peggy says:

        I just had an image of Trump and Pelosi together. Man I’d love to be a fly on the wall for that. He better make sure she doesn’t have a cane with her. Oh wait she’ll probably be Speaker of the House again after the Republicans loose both houses. She’ll have her gavel instead.

    • Dewster says:

      Peggy Trump may be making back room deals with the donors so who knows.

      HRC? Heck they prob have 3 or 4 “Impeach” Plans already written. We need to clean out congress. All of them on the take both parties.

      Look at Denny Hastert who impeached Clinton? He was doing sex crimes and finally is in jail for a related incident.

      DC is a power hungry corrupt world where it is the norm to them because it has gone on for so long. Both parties.

  7. Chris says:

    Tina: “The Clinton’s shared history of assault and abuse of women is long and sordid. ”

    Alleged, Tina.

    And let’s not forget Trump has also been accused of rape by his ex-wife, though she later recanted.

    “Trump was not my first choice but he is my choice now, warts and all. His warts look like beauty marks next to the craters and pits marring Hillary Clinton AND the socialist Democrat Party.”

    Have you really never heard the term “the devil you know?”

    “Trump will win.”

    No, he absolutely will not. Sensible Republicans won’t let him. They know he is much more a danger to their party and their country than any Democrat, including Hilary, could ever be.

    “only choice left to anyone who wants our economy growing, plenty of jobs,”

    Trump thinks the unemployment rate might be higher than the total number of non-working Americans. What makes you think he has even the slightest clue about the economy or jobs?

    “a supported military,”

    Sure, as long as no one in the military gets captured as a POW. Then they’re a loser.

    “He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

    “an improvement in foreign relationships,”


    Oh I’m so sorry but ahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Trump, who has said he will build a wall and make Mexico pay for it is going to be “an improvement in foreign relations?”

    Trump, who has said he would consider the possibility of dropping a nuclear weapon in Europe, is going to be an improvement in foreign relations?

    Trump, who has openly praised torture (his word) and other violations of the Geneva Conventions, such as murdering the family members of terrorists, is going to an improvement in foreign relations?

    Trump, who can’t go two seconds without sneering the word “Chiyenah” is going to be an improvement in foreign relations?

    Trump, who has suggested banning all Muslim immigration is going to be an improvement in foreign relations?

    Trump, who has openly praised Vladimir Putin seconds after being reminded that that guy has had journalists disappeared is going to be an improvement in foreign relations?

    Trump, who can’t take any form of criticism without immediately lashing out and calling someone names on Twitter, is going to be an improvement in foreign relations?

    Trump, who accuses his political opponents’ fathers of being in on the Kennedy assassination, is going to be an improvement in foreign relations?

    Tina, I have to ask: What medication are you taking that would make you say such a thing, and where the hell can I get some?

    • Pie Guevara says:

      Re: “Alleged, Tina.

      Yeah, and Arnold Rothstein was allegedly a mob boss. He allegedly fixed the 1919 World Series. allegedly fixed the 1921 Travers Stakes, and allegedly ran whore houses, speakeasies, and illegal casinos.

      He also allegedly bootlegged booze and allegedly was the first large scale heroin cartel in the US.

      Chris, take your meds and give me a call. I have a bridge for sale.

      • Chris says:

        Not even remotely the same, but nice try.

        • Pie Guevara says:

          I get it, you are OK with an alleged serial rapist, thus an alleged serial rapist is not remotely as bad as an alleged bootlegger.

          I tend to side with Bill and Hillary Clinton’s many victims, you tend to side with the alleged serial rapist and his enabler. Hey, whatever floats your boat, Chris. You da feminist!

        • Pie Guevarea says:

          I forgot to mention Bill Clinton’s connection to Jerry Epstein and his Pedophile Island resort. Of course, Chris turns a blind eye to this too. His is a myopia of convenience. He is the quintessential feminist.

          And, of course, serial rape and pedophilia and are not even remotely the same as the alleged crimes of Arnold Rothstein. Rape of women and sex with children are minor alleged crimes when compared to alleged bootlegging.

          • Chris says:

            Can you just talk like a person for once?

            Do you really believe Clinton is a pedophile and rapist? I suspect you don’t, and are simply using this as a political weapon.

          • Tina says:

            I forget which of the many cases “alleged” against Clinton resulted in disclosure of Clinton’s peyronies disease but I think it was part of testimony from at least one of the women that made claim/s more “credible.” Then there were the witnesses who testified they were with the women right after the event who reported injuries needing treatment and emotional shock.

            Remember when part of the Anita Hill game was that Thomas had to be exposed (implicating guilt) because of “the seriousness of the charge.” There was no evidence and Thomas had many more women testifying to his sterling character than Hill had in her two witnesses that couldn’t keep their stories straight. Talk about slime! This is the Democrat Party in full regalia. In fact here’s an item you may have missed from August 2015:

            Hillary Clinton’s recently released emails includes a memo sent by David Brock titled, “Memo on Impeaching Clarence Thomas.”

            The purpose of the document might suggest Clinton, or at least those closest to her and in her circle, are interested in impeaching Justice Thomas.

            The Democrat Party is worried. Anyone who thinks not is fooling himself.

  8. Harold says:

    Just think – If Trump wins the election,
    it’ll be the first time i n history that a
    white billionaire moved into public housing
    vacated by a black family.

  9. Tina says:

    The damage done by “the devil I know” is extensive and horrendous whether Chris will acknowledge it or not. The Clinton record of secret server, lying about Benghazi is a blueprint for how she would run the oval office. Her “reset” with Russia…give me a break. The mess in Syria…horrendous! Hillary’s doings as SoS make her a horrible candidate for President. Even her supporters can find little to defend her in terms of her accomplishments. she and the President brought us ISIS for heavens sake.

    When you consider the economic and foreign policy record of the “devil’s” party, that is never seriously scrutinized or criticized, the risk of electing this horrid woman would be much too great to even consider much less take.

    Although I highly respect the opinions and concerns of my friend Peggy regarding Trump, and share many of them as well, I have to issue a warning to my friends on the right. Chris is the perfect example of the mindset that brushes aside all of the failings of the Democrat Party, including the disgusting things we’ve seen them do, to return the focus to the failings of their opponents.

    I ask again: “What is it that allows that party to fail so spectacularly and still be spared the scorn they so richly deserve?”

    Well, Bwahahaha, maybe it’s our sense of morality that they exploit and manipulate to get us to shut up and turn and run away.

    Alinsky: RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.

    RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more.

    RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”

    RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

    If we let our sense of morality get in the way of defeating the Democrats our sense morality will be a poor meal to injest as the future dies.

    • bob says:

      Miss Tina,

      On Monday evening it seemed the posts were taking longer than usual to show up. I’m guessing that’s because all you Postscript people were at that global warming…er…sorry….climate change documentary.

      Is that right? If so how was it? I would have gone but I hardly ever go out to movies. The last time I went out to see a movie was to go see Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner. Plus, in all honesty, fourteen bucks for a movie is a little too rich for my blood. I’d prefer to pay less at a matinée or just rent a dvd or watch online. Plus that night there were other things I had to get done.

      • Tina says:

        Bob I’m sorry to say I missed it. If I do see it online or on TV I’ll let you know what I think.

        Right now? I’m thinkin’ the issue is sinkin’. GW stories aren’t getting the traction they once got. The people are fed up with the lies, the onerous taxes, punishing regulation, and the notion of UN taxing authority. My God…a sitting US president vowed to put American Industry out of business and purposely cause utility rates to rise. Then he delivered. Ya think that hasn’t made a few of the “folks” angry?

        Wow Bob, it has been awhile since you’ve been to a movie theater! I haven’t been going in the last year or so but when I did it was always the matinee and preferably after the crowds had cleared.

    • Peggy says:

      Tina: I ask again: “What is it that allows that party to fail so spectacularly and still be spared the scorn they so richly deserve?”

      The support of the media allowed it. But, like I said above it may not be there for them before the election in November and in the future if Trump does win. The media is big business and they’re going after adding to the profits’ to their bottom line.

      Thanks to the media Republicans have been forced to live with the unearned label if being the cause for the “Do nothing Congress” when it was Dirty Harry who was filling his desk with hundreds of pocket vetoes to protect Obama. Am I the only one who was amazed that the Dems got away with blaming Republicans and primarily Cruz for shutting down the gov’t when it was Obama who refused to meet and compromise on the budget? And the shocking fact that thousands of signs and fencing was put up at every national park to shut them down the very next day, including the WWII war memorial? Our gov’t doesn’t do anything fast, yet out of thin air all of these materials and man power appeared as if they had been ordered and delivered weeks before and dispersed across the country. The exact same signs in Yellowstone were also in DC. Amazing.

      It will be interesting to see if the media does turn on Hillary and the Dems. Wonder what they’ll do when they’re treated for the first time like Republicans have been for decades?

      Related topic. Has anyone else heard about the hacker who says he hacked Hillary’s server? This will be a test to see if the MSM picks this news up or if it will only be covered by conservative news sources.

      “Romanian hacker ‘Guccifer’ says it was ‘easy’ to infiltrate Hillary Clinton’s personal emails from his small village Marcel Lehel Lazar, 44, reportedly hacked into the email servers of Colin Powell, Sidney Blumenthal, and other power brokers.

      He also insists he got into Hillary Clinton’s emails ‘twice’

      ‘It was easy’ he told Fox News of supposedly gaining access to the Dem frontrunner’s emails

      He said the missives ‘weren’t interesting’ and were for ‘political voting stuff’

      Clinton’s camp denies her server was ever compromised by the hacker”

      • Tina says:

        “Am I the only one who was amazed that the Dems got away with blaming Republicans and primarily Cruz …”

        I remember being outraged. Did you know that every single Washington reporter that sits in on the presidents news conferences is a Democrat? There’s a lot of nepotism going on with the left media and the people who work under Obama too.

        “Has anyone else heard about the hacker who says he hacked Hillary’s server?”

        I saw the story on Drudge, Zero Hedge and a few other places. The information is meaningless at this point. The investigation continues according to Judge Napalitano. Wait and see is tough.

        • Dewster says:

          maybe you ought to stop watching propaganda movies and watch congress. maybe read the “Caucus Room Meetings”

          Poor republicans they are so honest and always get the blame for those evil democrats.


  10. Chris says:


    Is it your position that Trump does not engage in exactly the Alinski tactics you lay out above?

    • Tina says:

      It’s my position that he doesn’t mind using those tactics to beat them at their own game. He doesn’t mind playing the media and outsmarting corrupt insiders.

      I have no idea what the future will hold or how this man will conduct himself as our President. I imagine like all humans, and all past presidents, he will make mistakes.

      I do know that people who know him well say he is a good man, so I’m willing to “give him a shot” over the other two possibilities. Who knows maybe his bombastic crude style will turn out to be as much of a front as the phony polish and “brilliance” of the man who was awarded a peace prize before he had a record of accomplishment.

      Trump knows how to get things done. He understands the plight of businessmen and people who now desperately need work. I know there’s a lot he doesn’t know too, but he does know how to delegate and to consider the advice of the “finest” people, as he puts it. He seems a man who would listen to his generals. I imagine he’ll give Congress a few challenges and won’t take any crap from the likes of that pip squeak, Reid (though he’ll be gone, thank heavens)

      The road ahead with it’s many challenges will be formidable. We need strong leadership that neither Hillary, nor Bernie, can provide. I’m sure Trump will disappoint me along the way. So what? Hillary would and so would Bernie but both of them will give us more of what is killing us now.

      So yes, it matters not one wit that Trump beats them at their game, if it means we can get Americans back to work again, if we can see our troops supported again, if we can respect and support our allies again, if congress can be encouraged to work again and if we can stand strong and determined against the scourge of terrorism and defeat them.

      • Chris says:

        Tina: “I imagine like all humans, and all past presidents, he will make mistakes.”

        Trump is not like any past presidents, none of whom ever made it a habit of getting into feuds with stand-up comedians or sitcom writers on Twitter, or told their supporters to punch protesters and they’d cover the legal fees, or accused a female reporter of asking a question about sexism because she was on her period, or bragged about their penis size in a debate.

        Trump is different. Trump is uniquely ugly and unprofessional.

        “I know there’s a lot he doesn’t know too, but he does know how to delegate and to consider the advice of the “finest” people, as he puts it.”

        You are absolutely wrong about that.

        But as ever with Trump, even these straightforward political acts are not without controversy. The advisors he has enlisted appear to have spent little to no time as policymakers, and of those who have served in the military, few have top-level experience. One has been consistently condemned by Muslim rights groups and another was investigated while working as the Pentagon’s inspector general.

        WASHINGTON — When Donald J. Trump finally began to reveal the names of his foreign policy advisers during a swing through Washington this week, the Republican foreign policy establishment looked at them and had a pretty universal reaction: Who?

        Many foreign policy experts have been wondering for months about who might be counseling the leading Republican presidential candidate, who has unfurled such provocative proposals as reinstating waterboarding and barring foreign Muslims from entering the country.

        Mr. Trump has promised to hire the world’s brightest minds to make up for his lack of political experience, but his new foreign policy team left some of the country’s leading experts in the field scratching their heads as they tried to identify his choices. And on a day when the Islamic State struck a blow to a major European capital, Mr. Trump’s new team faced additional scrutiny.

        “Many of us who have held senior positions in previous Republican administrations have been asking each other if we have ever heard of them, and pretty much everybody is turning to Google to see what they can find,” said Mike Green, a foreign policy expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies who served on President George W. Bush’s National Security Council.

        This should be completely unsurprising to anyone familiar with the kind of people Trump surrounds himself with. His campaign managers are some of the nastiest, stupidest, most hostile people in politics. One spokeswoman, Katrina Pierson, recently complained on Twitter that neither Mitt Romney nor Barack Obama were “pure breeds.” His manager, Corey Lewandowski, forcibly grabbed a Breitbart reporter by the arm. Former Trump adviser Roger Stone was banned from CNN for calling a contributor a “fat negro.”

        Why on earth would you believe Trump surrounds himself with the “finest people?” Just because he says so?

        “He seems a man who would listen to his generals.”

        Where are you getting this from? No, he doesn’t. When asked what he would do if the military refused his proposed illegal orders, such as killing the family members of terrorists and committing torture, Trump’s response was:

        “They won’t refuse. They’re not going to refuse me. Believe me.”

        My god, Tina. This sounds like a man who would respect generals who disagreed with him? He is all but admitting he intends to rule the armed forces as a dictator.

        Nothing you say about this guy matches the reality of who he has proven to be.

        “I do know that people who know him well say he is a good man, so I’m willing to “give him a shot” over the other two possibilities.”

        That’s…nice for him, I guess? Who the hell cares? You’re ACTUALLY using THIS as a qualification for voting for someone for president? That people who know him well like him?

        Are you insane?

        Do you think that people who know Hilary Clinton and Bernie Sanders well don’t ALSO say that they’re good people? Hell, I’m sure Lenin’s closest friends said he was a good guy too! What a ridiculously stupid reason to vote for someone.

        In a series of dumb, desperate attempts to find reasons to vote for Trump, this has got to be the single stupidest argument I’ve ever read. “People who know him well say he’s a good man?” What is wrong with you? How were you not too embarrassed to type that?

        And it would be dumb even if Trump’s entire record over the past year didn’t prove he ISN’T a good man. I don’t care if he works on a cure for puppy cancer in his spare time; “good men” do not mock reporters for having a physical disability. They don’t mock POWs for getting captured. They don’t spread false reports that their opponents’ fathers killed Kennedy. They don’t spread lies about their opponents’ birthplaces. They don’t encourage their supporters to attack their political opponents.

        Donald Trump is not a good man. Good men don’t do these things.

        You’ve let your hatred of all things Democrat blind you to the clear and present danger posed by a Trump candidacy. You’ve also let it blind you to the destructive effect Trump will have on your own party. Trump has the highest unfavorable ratings of any candidate in generations. Nominating Trump all but ensures a Democrat will win the White House in November.

        I don’t need you to change your mind on this; Trump will not win. But when he brings your party down with him, don’t say I didn’t warn you.

        • Tina says:

          Chris you and the panicking establishment in both parties, and the wonky policy makers (that have done such a fabulous job so far), don’t approve of Trump. ! Who cares. Really! What the heck have they done that’s so fabulous?

          You didn’t mind a candidate with scant experience who promised “hope” and “change.” You defended the outrageous things he said while campaigning. since being elected, twice, his refusal to listen to military generals is well known and to disastrous result. His willingness to work with Congress stinks. His economic policies have made only the rich richer and killed businesses and jobs, some intentionally. What kind of a leader wages economic war on the people?

          How can we take your criticisms seriously? You won’t even acknowledge the man in the WH now is an abject failure. Your “judgement” is definitely in question. Your opinion of yourself is enough to make me nauseous, so why, dear boy, would I care that you “warned me?”

          • Chris says:

            Nice attempt to change the subject from the fact that almost nothing you said about Trump is true; you can’t defend any of what you said, so you just shift to saying a bunch of stuff about Obama (much of which also isn’t true).

            “Chris you and the panicking establishment in both parties, and the wonky policy makers (that have done such a fabulous job so far), don’t approve of Trump.”

            No, the majority of Americans disapprove of Trump.

            For Americans of nearly every race, gender, political persuasion and location, disdain for Donald Trump runs deep, saddling the Republican front-runner with unprecedented unpopularity as he tries to overcome recent campaign setbacks.

            Seven in 10 people, including close to half of Republican voters, have an unfavorable view of Trump, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll. It’s an opinion shared by majorities of men and women; young and old; conservatives, moderates and liberals; and whites, Hispanics and blacks — a devastatingly broad indictment of the billionaire businessman.

            Even in the South, a region where Trump has won GOP primaries decisively, close to 70 percent view him unfavorably. And among whites without a college education, one of Trump’s most loyal voting blocs, 55 percent have a negative opinion.


            Trump is going to lose, and you’re willing to let him destroy the Republican party along with himself. Believe it or not, I actually think that’s a bad thing.

      • Dewster says:

        news flash The USA is not to be a Business.

        Newsflash Trump bankrupts his business’s for profit.

        That is exactly what Romney wanted to do. leverage the debt for the profit of others bankrupting the country to be sold off at auction for the profits of the 1%.

        Just because Some low info voters are not business savy we are gong to let these goons ruin our country? Sell off our assets to pay for their profit wars? The wars will not stop it is probably the only business we will have left.

  11. Chris says:

    Also, your claim that Clinton and Obama “brought us ISIS” is pure historical revisionism, designed to make people forget the failures of the Bush administration. ISIS is a direct outgrowth of Al Qaeda in Iraq, which formed in 2004. Guess who wasn’t in Iraq prior to our disastrous and pointless invasion?

    And while it is pure partisan hackery to claim either Bush or Obama “created” ISIS, the Bush administration’s policies in Iraq were huge contributors to its formation.

    Your claim that Clinton lied about Benghazi remains to be corroborated years after Republicans began investigating such claims. There’s nothing there.

    The secret server is bad, no argument there. It isn’t as bad as saying you would consider nuking Europe. It is, sad to say, within the realm of normal political scandals. It indicates dishonesty, but not a total lack of qualifications for the office.

    I won’t spend a lot of time defending Clinton. She is far from my ideal candidate. She is, by every objective measure, still a better choice than Trump, who has no qualifications for higher office to speak of.

    If I can’t convince you, maybe this quote from Alexander Hamilton, on why he refused to vote for his own party’s candidate in 1800, will:

    ““For my individual part my mind is made up. I will never more be responsible for him by my direct support—even though the consequence should be the election of Jefferson. If we must have an enemy at the head of the Government, let it be one whom we can oppose & for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures. Under Adams as under Jefferson the government will sink. The party in the hands of whose chief it shall sink will sink with it and the advantage will all be on the side of his adversaries.”

    Short version: maybe you think my candidate will destroy America. But your candidate almost certainly would as well. At this point, perhaps you might want to start thinking about who gets the blame for it.

    If Clinton becomes president and ruins the country, you can run a real Republican in four years and try to fix things.

    If Trump becomes president and ruins the country, there won’t *be* a Republican Party in four years.

    • jack Lee says:

      Chris lets walk this back to Nov. 4th 1979. Do you remember what happened then? Iran captured Americans inside the US Embassy in Tehran and held them for 444 days while Jimmy Carter dithered and rung his hands. Iran never thought they would get away with it, but to their surprise they did and worse yet….they exposed a paper tiger!

      This one act ushered in a radical theocracy ala the Ayatollah Khomeini and the middle east was changed forever. Since then, it’s been one terrorist act after another, one war after another and it all started with Jimmy Carter. The Iranians have been cause continuous problems with insurgency operations from Hezbollah to Shiite terrorists in Iraq, Lebanon, Libya and now Syria. The blood of many American soldiers is on Iranian hands, not to mention tens of thousands of so many innocent victims caught up in Iran’s Islamic crusade.

      That one poorly handled, tragic incident by Jimmy Carter set the stage for many evil things to come and for anyone to deny it is to deny history and facts. It is amazing what the ripple effects can be isn’t it? One might even say, the events in Iran were helped along be US bungling earlier, including Viet Nam. Kennedy got us into that one.

      Speaking of history, on who’s watch was the seizure of the U.S. Navy ship and its 83 crew members? Remember that one? One of whom was killed in the attack. It came less than a week after President Lyndon B. Johnson’s “State of the Union” address to the United States Congress. LBJ did nothing… and we negotiated from a point of weakness for the crew’s release. Sound familiar? It should.

      I am sick of America being kicked around by zealots and crazy people, but so many of them have come to believe they can kick us around and get away with it, just like Iran did in 1979. There’s a lesson to be learned here, but if I had to guess, you’ll probably choose not to see it, much less believe it.

      • RHT447 says:

        Good ol’ Lyndon (B.S.) Johnson. Here is a bit of history.

        In June of 1942, a group of fact-finders arrived un-announced at the headquarters of General Douglas MacArthur. One of the group members was a young Naval Reserve lieutenant commander and Texas Congressman, Lyndon B. Johnson. Johnson was there as the personal representative of his mentor and idol, Franklin D. Roosevelt.

        The war in the Pacific had not gone well to this point. MacArthur needed a favorable report to go back to the president. Johnson needed at least one wartime “mission” to secure his political base back in Texas. Here is the story of that “mission”.

        • Tina says:

          Rht447 your link didn’t work for me.

          • RHT447 says:

            Well, drat. I just tried it from here and it worked. Ain’t technology wunnerful? Try this—
            Click this link and see if you get to the home page.


            If not, do a search for “B-26 Marauder Historical Society”. Once there, click on “archive”, then “manuscripts” on the right, then “unknown”, then scroll down to LBJ article.

      • Tina says:

        Thank you Jack. If there has been revision of history going on its been done by the radical left, a strong force in American education (I use the term loosely) for fifty years.

        One of the generals that worked under Bush said this morning that Al Qaeda was all but decimated when Bush handed Obama the reins and that the one thing we needed was a strong continuing presence. Boy was he right.

        Obama is responsible for the atmosphere that made it possible for ISIS to grow and become a formidable problem. His handling of every situation has been very poor. I have yet to hear him articulate a strategy. Obama has made so many mistakes in the ME it’s hard to tell whose side he’s on. This latest fiasco with Iran, a major sponsor and funding arm of terrorism, a nation that helped ISIS to gain a strong presence in three nations, is the last straw.

        I’m afraid you’re right about Chris. He lacks the curiosity to examine the long historical record and lessons learned, the Bush strategy, the conflict of ideology, or even the long history of Muslim aggression that has brought us to this point in history. My main fear when Bush chose to go into Iraq was that the will of the people would weaken and we’d end up with another Vietnam and/or an emboldened and strengthened Iran. My worst fears (and more) have been realized and it began even before Obama…with the radical left among us. We are sadly not the people of our parents generation as a country. We have been corrupted and it’s sad to watch.

        • Chris says:

          Tina: “My main fear when Bush chose to go into Iraq was that the will of the people would weaken and we’d end up with another Vietnam and/or an emboldened and strengthened Iran.”

          What you miss is that the obvious fact that the central mistake in both Vietnam and Iraq was invading in the first place. Iraq was always going to be another Vietnam, because it was a stupid, pointless, counter-productive war, just like Vietnam. Al Qaeda didn’t exist in Iraq prior to the invasion, as even Bush admitted:

          BUSH: One of the major theaters against al Qaeda turns out to have been Iraq. This is where al Qaeda said they were going to take their stand. This is where al Qaeda was hoping to take–

          RADDATZ: But not until after the U.S. invaded.

          BUSH: Yeah, that’s right. So what? The point is that al Qaeda said they’re going to take a stand. Well, first of all in the post-9/11 environment Saddam Hussein posed a threat. And then upon removal, al Qaeda decides to take a stand.

          Heck, by this metric one could argue Iraq was an even bigger failure; it was like we had invaded Vietnam and found no Communists there.

          Saddam was evil, but our invasion left a power vacuum that radical Islamic extremists filled. It was a poorly conceived, poorly planned war from the beginning.

          That Clinton didn’t see this at first is a mark against her. That said, you’re blaming Obama for pulling out too quickly; Clinton is more hawkish than Obama, and would have been more likely to stay the course. Is that a point in her favor?

          • Tina says:

            How could “our (strong) presence” leave a “power vacuume?”

            LEAVING left the power vacuume and ISIS (terrorists) exploited it while Obama was diddling in Afghanistan, plotting ways to blow up Syria, Libya, and Egypt, and making secret deals with a terror sponsoring nation! The radical antiwar elements had done their damage with Bush. Behavior in earlier times that would be treasonous but typical of the radical left sixties generation that pose as “peacemakers.” What a joke. Look at the world since they came to power…it’s a divisive, contentious, suffering mess. And all of those wonky policy makers and elites go home ever day to their high class houses and believe they’ve actually done a good job.

            You are pathetic.

          • Chris says:

            Tina: “How could “our (strong) presence” leave a “power vacuume?””

            Because it wasn’t a strong presence, you ninny.

            And are you really denying the undeniable fact that deposing Saddam in Iraq drew Al Qaeda there like moths to a flame?

      • Chris says:

        FOUL, Jack. Moving the goalposts. Tina and I were talking about which administration bears the most responsibility for the formation of ISIS, not the rise of Islamic extremism in general. If you want to go that far back, I could just as easily accuse you of “denying history” by leaving out the overthrow of Mossadeigh, which occurred under a Republican president, Eisenhower, and which arguably was the root cause of both the 1979 hostage crisis as well as all the Islamic extremism we see today. (You also leave out the fact that Carter did ultimately negotiate the hostages’ release; whether that’s to further the false right-wing narrative that Iran released the hostages out of fear of Reagan, I’m not sure.)

  12. Tina says:

    Hmmmm, could be Vincente Fox believes Trump will be the next president. In an interview with Breitbart Fox apologized and offering a gesture of friendship:

    Earlier this year, Fox said that he would not pay for Trump’s “f*cking wall,” and called Trump ““Ignorant … crazy … egocentric … nasty … [a] false prophet.” Trump then called on Fox to apologize

    On Wednesday, he did so — in an exclusive interview with Breitbart News — and added that he wanted Trump to come to Mexico to see the border from the other side.

    “I apologize. Forgiveness is one of the greatest qualities that human beings have, is the quality of a compassionate leader. You have to be humble. You have to be compassionate. You have to love thy neighbor,” Fox explained to Breitbart News while sitting in the hotel of the J.W. Marriott in Santa Monica, California on Wednesday afternoon.

    “Love your nation. Love the world,” he added. “Yes, I’m humble enough as leadership be, [a] compassionate leader. If I offended you, I’m sorry. But what about the other way around?”

    Yes, Trump will do a lot to repair the damage done by the weak weenie Obama outfit that included Hillary.

    • Chris says:

      Tina: “Yes, Trump will do a lot to repair the damage”

      You read that quote from Vincente Fox, and somehow saw that Trump did something to “repair the damage” he caused by his own words and contemptuous behavior?

      At this point the only explanation is hallucination.

  13. Pie Guevara says:

    Re: “ISIS is a direct outgrowth of Al Qaeda in Iraq.”

    Chris parroting Obama politucally motivated bull****. Like no one saw that coming.

    The truth is these radical elements, whatever names they give themselves, are part and parcel of Islam and Islamic nations and are the result of repression and oppression by Islamic dictatorships.

    The truth is that is was not until Obama abandoned Iraq that ISIS became a significant force in Iraq. It had already been a significant force in Syria and moved into Iraq after Obama turned tail and ran from his responsibility to see that Iraq did not become destabilized.

    The truth is ISIS was never a significant threat in Libya until Obama and Hillary had him assassinated. Strongman Muammar Gaddafi kept the country in relative stability until Hillary colluded with Obama and orchestrated his assassination.

    Chris’ (and Obama’s) tripe is pure self-serving left-wing revisionism. Moreover, they are both pathological liars.

    The Libya Gamble: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Push for War & the Making of a Failed State

  14. Chris says:

    “The truth is ISIS was never a significant threat in Libya until Obama and Hillary had him assassinated. Strongman Muammar Gaddafi kept the country in relative stability until Hillary colluded with Obama and orchestrated his assassination”

    You’re saying we shouldn’t have deposed a Mideast tyrant because he actually kept terrorism in check? I am shocked, shocked I tell you.

    • Pie Guevara says:

      Re: “You’re saying we shouldn’t have deposed a Mideast tyrant because he actually kept terrorism in check? I am shocked, shocked I tell you.”

      I never said and am not saying such a thing, you ridiculous jackass. I am only stating the truth. The facts. Something that is completely foreign to you.

      Unlike you, I do not live in a fantasy world propped up by an ignorant, stupid, and politically motivated sense of revisionist history and world view.

      Grow up.

      • Pie Guevara says:

        By the way, this is classic Chris — drawing an inference. In this case in a juvenile attempt to try and deflect attention from his self exposition of stupidity and ignorance in foreign affairs. The lowliest Private in the Army is better informed than him.

        Ostensibly, Chris is an English major teaching k-12 somewhere in Chico.

        OPEN QUESTION: Would you want this dogmatic mental midget indoctrinating your kids?

        • Chris says:

          Pie: “The truth is ISIS was never a significant threat in Libya until Obama and Hillary had him assassinated. Strongman Muammar Gaddafi kept the country in relative stability until Hillary colluded with Obama and orchestrated his assassination”

          Me: “You’re saying we shouldn’t have deposed a Mideast tyrant because he actually kept terrorism in check? I am shocked, shocked I tell you.”

          Pie: “I never said and am not saying such a thing, you ridiculous jackass.”

          You did, and it’s right there, in the first comment of yours I quoted. There is no other “inference” to be drawn from your statement other than it was a mistake to depose Gaddafi because he kept terrorism in check. That’s not even an inference; that is what you said.

          You don’t even understand the meaning of your own arguments.

          (And no, I’m not based in Chico. I’ve mentioned my location and even linked to my Facebook before, and now I’m hoping you won’t be able to find that, because you’re an unhinged, rage-fueled troll who is two blog comments away from shooting up an Arby’s. Get help.)

          • Pie Guevara says:

            This is the “English major” for you. I state the facts, the jackass draws an inference from my statement of facts. Pathological idiot.

            TO REPEAT THE OPEN QUESTION: Would you want this dogmatic mental midget indoctrinating your kids?

          • Pie Guevara says:

            Too funny Chris calling me a troll when that is precisely the role he has chosen for himself in Post Scripts. In fact, the internet term “troll” was coined to describe people like Chris.

            I could not care less about your Facebook page, jackass.

          • Pie Guevara says:

            To reiterate, I made absolutely no statement on policy. None whatsoever. Period.

            I did state the facts to point out how ignorant and stupid Chris is on affairs in Islamic countries. From that Chris infers I made a statement about policy, which of course, I did not.

            This is a perfect example of what you are dealing with when you deal with the left — mild, medium, or the lunatic extreme as represented by Chris. You are dealing with ignorant stupid people who cannot even understand plain English.

            These idiots continuously draw inferences from their brain-dead fantasies and put words in peoples mouths to satisfy their own idiotic and bgioted prejudices and assumptions.

            Chris, thank you for yet another opportunity to give a lesson in just how stupid a left-wing, ostensible “English major” can be. You are dumber than a bag of door knobs.

            It was truly a thing of beauty. Keep up the good work. The addition of your pathological paranoia to boot was perfection too. An excellent footnote to your demented, pathological lunacy. Troll away! Do not seek help, it would be a waste of the analyst’s time trying to deal with a committed sociopathic fool like you.

          • Chris says:

            Pie: “To reiterate, I made absolutely no statement on policy. None whatsoever. Period.”

            THIS isn’t a statement on policy?

            “The truth is ISIS was never a significant threat in Libya until Obama and Hillary had him assassinated. Strongman Muammar Gaddafi kept the country in relative stability until Hillary colluded with Obama and orchestrated his assassination.”

            And if your point wasn’t that we shouldn’t have removed Gaddafi because he kept terrorism in check, what the hell WAS your point?

  15. Pie Guevara says:

    Re Trump versus Hillary: Jack you need to edit that title, this is not poetry or the Bible 😉

    Some choice for POTUS. A pompous narcissistic pathological liar versus a pompous narcissistic pathological liar.

  16. J. Soden says:

    And why do the talking heads/newsies assume that all women will vote for $hilLIARy?

    Intelligent women already realize she’s a pathological liar, thief(white house silver) and her only concern is her bank account balance.

    • Chris says:

      They’re not assuming all women will vote for Hillary. More women will vote for Hillary than Trump, though, and that’s simply a fact:

      It’s time for another installment of “why Trump is likely to be a general election disaster for Republicans based on the available data.” We’ve already examined the controversial billionaire’s uniquely terrible standing on electoral fundamentals like favorability and candidate characteristics, as well as his worst-in-the-GOP-field pairing against Hillary Clinton. Now let’s look at his performance among key swing demographics, starting with women, who comprise more than half of the electorate:

      [These voters are] part of what you might call Clinton’s coalition of the unwilling. They are the independent and moderate Republican women who don’t like Clinton – some even despise her – but are so repulsed by Trump that they are already preparing to vote for the Democrat they anticipate will be on the ballot in November if that’s what it takes to keep him out of office. Either that, or sit out the election altogether. This loose coalition is large and growing. More Republican women view Trump more negatively than positively, according to Gallup. And in a hypothetical matchup with Clinton, a Washington Post/ABC News poll found this month that Trump loses the women’s vote by 21 points.

  17. Tina says:

    Anyone interested in the Johnson Silver Star story will find it here.

    Excellent directions RHT447…amazing story.

  18. Tina says:

    Chris: “Because it wasn’t a strong presence, you ninny. ”

    We were a strong presence under Bush you retard. But it quickly became obvious that we weren’t once the skinny, wonkie, weenie declared it a stupid war and pulled our troops out…wow…talk about diplomatic idiocy! He was so full of himself he thought it smart to insult the country that had just bled and died with us to form a new democratic nation. What a fantastic showing of military aplomb, to turn a hard fought win into a stinking loss and all for politics! (What a slap in the face to our brave dedicated military!) And his performance sine then has been so bad the world asks what’s wrong with the Americans. The answer is simple, you don;t send a boy to do a man’s work…and you sure as hell don’t send a community organizer with a chip on his soulder who will negotiate with sponsors of terror!

    I will NEVER forget your rabid criticism of Bush’s performance, a man who had the backing of the entire Congress, the UN, and our allies to go into Iraq and who later was betrayed by his own countrymen for politics. Your defense of this turncoat leftist mission and your defense of the absolute failure of a man who stepped into Bush’s big shoes, renders your opinion less than useless.

    • Chris says:

      1. I shouldn’t have called you a “ninny,” Tina, but “retard” is way over the line, and beneath you.

      2. If anyone’s opinion is useless, it is that of someone who actually believes that the Iraq War had “the backing of the entire congress [and] the UN.” Holy ****– have you been THAT successful in lying to yourself over the past decade, that you’ve actually forgotten that the UN never approved of the war, that UN inspectors asked for more time before invasion, and that the UN Secretary General described the war as “illegal?”

      The Senate vote was 77-23 and the House vote was 296-133. The support was depressingly widespread and bipartisan, but it was not supported by the “entire” Congress; that is just a bald-faced lie, just as your claim that we had the backing of the UN was a lie. And clearly, you’ve actually convinced yourself to believe these lies; if you didn’t, you wouldn’t say them, since you’d know I’d call you out on them.

      Your misrepresentation of these basic facts about how we got into the Iraq War makes your opinions useless. You have brainwashed yourself to believe things that are entirely factually untrue.

  19. Pie Guevara says:

    Chris, I think you have made enough of an ass out of yourself about the affairs and conditions existing in Islamic dictatorships. Continuing to point out how stupid and ignorant you are on this issue and how idiotic you are misrepresenting and drawing inferences from my statements has become tiresome. Nice try, though. Keep up the good work. You get an A for obsession and persistence in your lunacy even though you get an F for comprehension.

    It is time to move on to another issue and a new opportunity for you to make an ass of yourself, “English major.”

    To anyone else reading this, ask yourself, would you want this demagogic left-wing extremist troll teaching YOUR kids? Do you think Chris’ mother reads the vile, hateful, and idiotic screed Chris tosses onto the pages of Post Scripts?

  20. Libby says:

    Chris, you flatter him. Pie does not make points, he says “ass”, “jackass”, and “asshole” over and over and over again. This airing of a very limited vocabulary, not to mention intellect, lost it’s entertainment value long ago. Why on earth do you bother?

    • Pie Guevara says:

      Re: “Pie does not make points, he says “ass”, “jackass”, and “asshole” over and over and over again.”

      That is because you turn a blind eye to the points I make, dear Libbya. The words are an apt description of both you and Chris. The shoe fits.

  21. Libby says:

    And Tina, you did criminally misrepresent the origins of the Iraq war … just as the neo-cons lied in originating it … so what else should we expect?

    • Tina says:

      Dd not! You did…you and the anti-Semitic bunch that resents the “neocons” cause they left your party.

      • Pie Guevara says:

        Libbya the liar cannot open her foul maw without a ridiculous lie springing forth. In this she is a lot like Trump.

      • Chris says:

        Well, Tina, you did say the Iraq War had the support of the UN as well as the “entire” Congress…which is blatantly untrue. “Criminally misrepresent” is harsh, but you did misrepresent the origins of the war to a degree that disqualifies you from having an informed opinion on it.

    • Tina says:

      Thanks Pie. Rush talked about this article this morning but I never got to it and then forgot as I tried to catch up on responses here. I was crazy busy at work too. The article is fabulous and I can;t help sharing a few gems as a tease for our readers:

      It is easy to be appalled by crude ignorance, but in some ways it is more appalling to hear ignorance layered and veneered with liberal pieties and snobbery…

      …or when Obama invites as an honored White House guest a rapper whose latest album cover glorifies homies on the White House lawn gloating over the corpse of a white judge at their feet, I think we long ago eroded any notion of presidential decorum…

      …No one today much worries that in the 2008 campaign Obama smeared the working classes of Pennsylvania, revved up his supporters in Philadelphia (“folks in Philly like a good brawl”) to bring their guns to a knife fight, and urged others to “get in their face,” and quite unapologetically lied about his supposedly sporadic presence in front of Reverend Wright’s racist and anti-Semitic pulpit — after earlier bragging in a Chicago newspaper interview about his perfect attendance. Few cared about the felon Tony Rezko’s sweetheart discounted sale of backyard real estate to the Obamas — an academic’s downscaled version of something like Trump Steaks.

      VDH is the MAN!

      • Pie Guevara says:

        “It is easy to be appalled by crude ignorance, but in some ways it is more appalling to hear ignorance layered and veneered with liberal pieties and snobbery…’

        Precisely describing the Post Scripts trolls Piss Chris, Libbya, and the Dupester.

        “…or when Obama invites as an honored White House guest a rapper whose latest album cover glorifies homies on the White House lawn gloating over the corpse of a white judge at their feet, I think we long ago eroded any notion of presidential decorum…”

        Or when B.J. Clinton decide it was a good idea to be serviced by Monica Lewinsky in the Oval office.

        Or when B.J. Clinton’s rape enabler wife attacked his victims.

        Left wing liberalism is a mountain of hypocrisy and defense of the indefensible. Soulless, evil creatures who have no principles or morals which have been replaced by sanctimonious false pieties and self aggrandizement.

  22. Pie Guevara says:

    This is exclusively for the blatant, two faced hypocrite, B.J. Clinton defender, Piss Chris who so likes to attack Trump but gives the Clintons a pass —

    Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender’s jet much more than previously known

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