Snipers Open Fire on Police – Dallas

by Jack

Three officers are dead, and at least seven others are injured in downtown Dallas Thursday, Dallas Police Chief David Brown says.
The entire statement follows:

“Tonight it appears that two snipers shot ten police officers from elevated positions during the protest/rally. Three officers are deceased, two are in surgery and three are in critical condition. An intensive search for suspects is currently underway. No suspects are in custody at this time. We ask that any citizen with information regarding the shootings tonight call 214-671-3482.

We will provide more information once it is available. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers tonight.”

Source: 3 Police Officers Dead After Shooting in Downtown Dallas | NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth

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31 Responses to Snipers Open Fire on Police – Dallas

  1. Libby says:

    The only thing about this that surprises me is the, what? … two, three years of forbearance?

    Did you really think they were going to put up with being picked off at the roadsides forever?

    We got a problem now.

    • Post Scripts says:

      Nobody was picked off at the roadside Libby. See that’s the kind of thing that just upsets and incites certain people to do violence and raise heck. Yes, its a perception that is often said, I will grant you that, but it’s not a reality!

      Lets try to be logical for a moment, if it were as bad as you say, why there is no evidence to back it up?

      Why is it that blacks represent 13% of the population but 40% of those who kill police officers? It’s not the cops that have the problem Libby, it’s the blacks pulling the trigger.

      Why is it, that on a per capital basis, police are far more likely to shoot a white criminal than a black criminal? That just makes absolutely no sense if they (blacks) are being picked off at the roadside, as you claim. They are not Libby. That is a falsehood and deep down you know it is a lie. But, prove me wrong. You open up the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports, take a look for yourself. Libby…it’s a crying shame that over 90,000 black people were murdered at the hands of other black people in a 12 year period. This is not the cops – this is the black community, but nobody wants hold anyone responsible for that travesty do they? WHY NOT? I think you know….

      • Libby says:

        Denial will not help.

        • Post Scripts says:

          I’m not relying on rhetoric, you are – I am relying on the statistical facts, provable facts. If anyone is in denial here its you Libby. Just read the FBI crime stats will ya?

          • Libby says:

            We have made numerous attempts to explain this to you, but you simply will not hear. Once again … it is POOR people who have numerous and negative interactions with the police. If more poor people are black, then more of those negative interactions will involve black people.

            Humans being what they are, patterns get set in cop heads, which they then re-enforce by seeking out black people to have negative interactions with.

            If cops are going to react to your facts by picking off innocent citizens who happen to be black, at the roadsides, just and solely because they are black, we have a problem.

            This is not deniable.

            They must learn to see beyond the color and discern legitimate threat.

      • dewster says:

        Stop the racist Propaganda

        You ignore The fact most mass murders were done by Whites

        Why is everything race with you guys?

        There is more to this story. DId you watch it unfold on Live Dallas news? Ya know that is possible right?

  2. J. Soden says:

    Latest update: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/08/dallas-sniper-who-gunned-down-5-cops-wanted-to-kill-white-people-chief-says.html

    Ladies and gentlemen, you now see the product of “diversity” and racial tension assisted by Obumble and the Eric Holder/Loretta Lynch DOJ. Dr. MLK is rolling over in his grave.
    And, predictably, da prez jumped right into his gun control speech.

  3. Tina says:

    It is CRIMINALS that have “numerous and negative interactions with the police.”

    BLACK MEN kill at unacceptably HIGH rates,mostly they are killing each other.

    The problem is a social problem within the black community for which the progressive left is largely responsible:

    1. The Great Society which created a welfare system that required women to be husband-less to qualify and did NOTHING to train males to care for their families themselves!

    2. The schools in black communities are well known for their lousy records and dangerous classrooms. The progressive political left in collusion with the teachers union control the education system and have failed these children in greater proportions than they have failed the rest of the children.

    3. The progressive left expresses animosity toward morals and values and celebrate use of drugs and gansta music gangs lending legitimacy.

    4. The progressive left wants no restrictions on abortion and resists reasonable regulation on abortion clinics. They teach safe sex (party hearty) and hand out condoms offering little sense of responsibility for unborn children who are treated like so much trash. The abortion rates for black are disproportionately high.

    The break up of the family, the rise and celebration of gangs, institutional dependency on government, and lack of training are creating dysfunction that will be very difficult to overcome.

    DENIAL about the unintended consequences of failed programs, irresponsible attitudes (never ending adolescence) in leadership, and lying and deception for VOTES are the main causes of this problem. We can see that it has been manufactured over decades by race baiters and opportunists in the radical leadership of the Democrat party.

    The president started this crap with his politics of division and covert agitation, black against white or black against cops, poor against rich and using the Tea Party or conservatives in general as straw men targets of hate. Blatantly ignoring the many problems that plague the black and poor communities while using those issues to garner political votes is a disgusting form of “leadership.”

    This has to stop and Libby, you are too smart to not see this stuff so all I can say is you are an activist yourself. A complete phony!

    • dewster says:

      You just repeated Racist propaganda. This crap has been debunked so many times over the years

      #BrainWash

      Welfare state? Stop Cashing your SSI checks and using Medicare please,

      #Hypocrisy

      Why Are red states the ones with the biggest welfare needs? All but 1 of them?

      • Tina says:

        “You just repeated Racist propaganda. This crap has been debunked so many times over the years”

        Tell me how it is racist and how it has been “debunked.”

        You offer no proof, only attitude!

        “Welfare state? Stop Cashing your SSI checks and using Medicare please”

        Sure just as soon as the law is changed,reforms are put in place, OR the money taken from me is returned! I PAID INTO BOTH SS AND MC against my will. I PAID BOTH EMPLOYEE AND EMPLOYER PORTIONS! I would rather have managed that money for myself…and I know that everyone that has paid into them could have done better for themselves had they spent that money on healthcare insurance and retirement plans for themselves!

        SS is a worn out, inadequate system put together in the 1930’s. MC is a broken inadequate system put together in the 1960’s. BOTH are creating a mound of debt for younger generations. Reforms are necessary.

        Welfare is a straight giveaway program. Nobody pays into welfare making them eligible for a return later on. People of all races take part in it. This is not the same thing as SS or MC. Quit trying to make them equivalent…they are not!

        And don’t you think some of that welfare money should be used for training so they can take care of themselves?

        “#Hypocrisy”

        You don’t know what the word means since you don’t know anything about the systems you compare as if they were equal. You also assumed it was a matter of race with me when we both know white people are also welfare recipients. Therefore you are a LIAR!

        Why Are red states the ones with the biggest welfare needs?

        Blue states have plenty of welfare needy…what the heck is wrong with you? Hawaii is blue and it’s the biggest! Blue New York and Blue California are also among the biggest! And let’s not forget that federal liberal policies on immigration and welfare are pushing these numbers up in red states.

        Before you go spouting off you need to check your attitude!

  4. Tina says:

    If you wanted to bring down America what better way than to destroy the country economically, create racial and class warfare, declare a war on cops, and pretend that guns are the problem so you can gradually effectively disarm freedom loving, law abiding citizens.

    Whose side is the Democrat Party on, the side of the Constitution, the rule of law, and freedom and equality for all or,… socialism, government dependency, mob rule, special interests, and creating a permanent single party rule (dictatorship)?

    Wake up America, those who push socialism, class and race division, and hatred of cops, whites, and conservatives are not your friend.

    • dewster says:

      OMG

      You have lost it

      Everything is Party with you

      Tell me why is the largest voting Block in America Independents who have had it with this Party Crap?

      Cause it is all BULL

      • Tina says:

        OMG…I said NOTHING about parties.

        I told you before; it’s ideology that drives my thinking.

        “Tell me why is the largest voting Block in America Independents who have had it with this Party Crap?

        Because a whole lot of people don’t know what they stand FOR…they only know what they are against!

        I don’t give a rats butt what party you choose as long as you put American ideals first.

  5. dewster says:

    Sorry I do not see stats supporting your conclusions FBI Crime Stats

    2015 Expanded Homicide Data Table 6
    https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

    Back in 2011, a staggering 83 percent of white murder victims were killed by fellow Caucasians. 36 percent of those killed by whites are women — a far higher share than you see with black murderers.

    2011 Expanded Homicide Data Table 6
    https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6

    Clearly, the social disaster of white violence has complicated roots. But the beginning of an answer is to admit that we have a problem.

    • Tina says:

      Dewey are you taking into consideration that blacks make up only 13% of the populace?

      Many in the media misreport statistics. Accuracy in Media:

      The media have relentlessly fanned the flames of racial hatred, while engaging in a systematic pattern of misinformation and blatant suppression of facts surrounding the perpetrators and victims of crime. As a result, so-called “criminal justice reform” is now being proposed to release more criminals from jails, supposedly to make amends for the unjust “mass incarceration” of black men.

      The figures come quickly but are never subjected to the necessary scrutiny. Last fall, for example, the George Soros-funded ProPublica published a claim that black youths are killed by the police at a rate 21 times higher than white youths. Mass media parroted that claim, but the data are incomplete and biased. They represent just 1.2 percent of police departments nationwide, and most reports come from urban areas, where the population is disproportionately black.

      More reliable data from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) suggest that in 2012, 123 blacks were killed by police using firearms while 326 whites, including 227 non-Hispanic whites, were killed. These data, however are also not entirely reliable, but represent a larger data set than the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR).

      CNN’s Marc Lamont Hill, a racial agitator fired by Fox News for defending cop-killers, spread another misleading statistic about police shootings, claiming that “Every 28 hours, an unarmed black person is killed by police.” This too was trumpeted in the media. It became a twitter hashtag, “#every28hours,” and another mantra like “hands up, don’t shoot.” But it is demonstrably false. There were 313 blacks killed by police, security guards and other “vigilantes” in 2012. Dividing 313 into the number of hours in a year (8,760) yields 28. However, 177 of these “unarmed black persons” were actually armed with firearms. That leaves 136. Others may have been technically “unarmed” but were threatening the officer’s life, for example with their car—or as in Michael Brown’s case, attempting to take the officer’s gun. Many more were not the result of shootings, but accidents, e.g., during vehicular chases. Finally, some of the shooters were not police. When the hyperbole is removed, the facts present a much more reasonable explanation. Barring a small number of tragic mishaps, police shootings are usually justified.

      Let’s look at the other side now. In 2013 alone, 49,851 officers were assaulted with firearms, knives and other weapons. Over the past 10 years, on average, 150 police officers have been killed in the line of duty every year. Fifty-seven of these were shot, stabbed, strangled or beaten. Of the 509 officers feloniously killed in the past 10 years, 46 percent of the perpetrators were black, despite their representing only 13 percent of the population. Do we call this a black war against the police?

      Critics also argue that blacks’ 40 percent share among U.S. prison populations is direct evidence of institutional racism (see table). In a color-blind society, they charge, incarcerated black populations would reflect their 13 percent share of the general population.

      However, if black crime rates were the guide, it would seem that blacks are, if anything, underrepresented in prison populations. The table below presents FBI data on homicide offenders. Blacks exceed all other groups in murders committed in 2013. In prior years it was actually worse.

      In 2007, the CDC broke out total homicide numbers and rates by age and race. The murder rate among blacks is similar to the rates in some of the most violent third-world nations (see below). No other racial or ethnic group comes close.

      …Note that for 20 to 24-year-olds, the murder rate among blacks (109.4/100,000) is 17 times higher than the rate for whites (6.4/100,000). Among 15 to 19-year-olds, it is over 20 times higher. The average for all ages is 13 times higher.

      Finally, black-on-white crime is substantially greater than the reverse. The table below shows murders by race of offender and victim in 2013. Note that overall, blacks kill as often as whites, although blacks represent only 13 percent of the population. Note also that black-on-white murder is more than double the rate of white-on-black murder (409 to 189). Similar results were found for 2012, 2011, 2010 and prior years.

      If these rates were to hold, and the roles were reversed—i.e., if blacks represented 64 percent of the population while whites comprised only 13 percent—black-on-white murder would have exceeded 2,000 killings in 2013, while white-on-black murder would have resulted in only 39 deaths. The table also shows that for all races, most murders were committed by members of the same race. This is because criminal violence usually occurs within one’s own community. Finally, in the other categories of violent crime—rape, robbery and aggravated assault—blacks consistently committed about 40 percent of the total in 2013, 2012, 2011, and 2010.

      So the disproportionate arrests, incarcerations and shootings of blacks should come as no surprise. Their 40 percent representation among the prison population fairly reflects the proportion of crimes committed by blacks in the U.S. This is not evidence of institutional racism, but rather a social pathology evident within the black community. They have been committing crimes at the highest rate by far of any racial/ethnic group for decades.

      Your own link to FBI noted that when the victim is black, blacks do most of the killing: Victim: Black or African American # of victims 2,491 By: whites 189 By blacks: 2,245

      There is a very serious, and very sad, condition in the black community that gun control will not change. Illegal guns, knives, baseball bats, lead pipes will continue to be used by these dysfunctional human beings against each other until the spiritual/social nature within the community is addressed. Telling these people that whites hate them and cops are “hunting them down” is irresponsible in the extreme. it’s like pouring gasoline on a fire and rubbing salt in a wound.

      The ONLY people with the power to effect lasting change are the people that live within these communities.

      • Dewster says:

        Tina I am just presenting the FBI stats.

        The media propaganda uses false narrative

        Ya want a race war? Well you are about to get one

        Stop the Racism

        • Tina says:

          Dewey YOU are the problem. You teach and preach hate and racism where none exists. You and your type teach young blacks that they are hated by whites and cops. This is exactly what the KKK did to their white children in the South.

          YOU should be ashamed of yourself.

          • dewster says:

            Tina your denial is the problem. you sit there in Chico and try to tell me what is going on? LOL

            You are out of line. You blame others because you do not have the critical thinking skills to comprehend FACTS and Truth.

            I saw the racism in Baltimore I lived there for a Year! I see the racism here in the south because I am living here!

            But oh no I am wrong some person in Chico knows better than my own eyes and ears. These white idiots down here are not only racist they are stupid! Uneducated mean people.

            I am white they think they can tell me things.

            I HEAR IT DAILY!

            What’s next the confederate battle flag of treason is one of love?

      • Libby says:

        “In 2007, the CDC broke out total homicide numbers and rates by age and race. The murder rate among blacks is similar to the rates in some of the most violent third-world nations (see below). No other racial or ethnic group comes close.”

        Once again, the violence is incidental to the poverty. Hungry people are much more likely to resort to criminality to live. Young men in the illegal drug business are indeed more likely to kill each other … because of the criminal nature of the work … taken up to assuage poverty.

        Ethnicity is a factor nowhere in this.

        Only in your racist head is it a big fat hairy deal.

        • Tina says:

          Then why are poor white kids in Apalachia not running in gangs and killing each other?

          And why, back in the late ’30’s, 40’s, and 50’s, were most of the blacks in areas like Harlem, Detroit, and Chicago upwardly mobile and moving out of poverty. Why did they have intact families, low divorce rates, and polite well-mannered kids?

          You’re right that ethnicity has nothing to do with it…accept for the fact that blacks were pandered to using the carrot of welfare for votes. The program did not discriminate but Democrats targeted them. READ the period documents and news clips…blacks were the issue de jour and overall prosperity and justice a theme!

          Lyndon Johnson at American Rhetoric:

          For in your time we have the opportunity to move not only toward the rich society and the powerful society, but upward to the Great Society.

          The Great Society rests on abundance and liberty for all. It demands an end to poverty and racial injustice, to which we are totally committed in our time. But that is just the beginning.

          The Great Society is a place where every child can find knowledge to enrich his mind and to enlarge his talents. It is a place where leisure is a welcome chance to build and reflect, not a feared cause of boredom and restlessness. It is a place where the city of man serves not only the needs of the body and the demands of commerce but the desire for beauty and the hunger for community. It is a place where man can renew contact with nature. It is a place which honors creation for its own sake and for what is adds to the understanding of the race. It is a place where men are more concerned with the quality of their goals than the quantity of their goods.

          But most of all, the Great Society is not a safe harbor, a resting place, a final objective, a finished work. It is a challenge constantly renewed, beckoning us toward a destiny where the meaning of our lives matches the marvelous products of our labor.

          As the kids in the back of the bus might say…”Are we there yet?”

          It’s only been 50 years!

          Daniel Patrick Moynihan tried to warn us: “Daniel Patrick Moynihan Predicted the Future of the Black Family But Too Few People Actually Listened”

          You can deny all day long but history will show the Great Society was one of the worst things we ever did and is one of the things that helped create the atmosphere we have today.

          • Libby says:

            “Then why are poor white kids in Apalachia not running in gangs and killing each other?”

            Because they are not living in filthy tenements with hundreds, thousands, of similarly impoverished in a city exhibiting appalling affluence in which they cannot share.

            In Appalachia, everyone is poor together. That’s why I liked living in Chico. In San Francisco, it’s all nothing you will ever have, and damned depressing.

            I’ve said it before. You have no imagination. And this situation will not improve unless your children evolve some.

  6. Pie Guevara says:

    Let us be clear on this. Dopeyster seeks a race war.

    • RHT447 says:

      He may well get it. Local reports are that the Dallas P.D. will follow the path of Baltimore. No more pro-active police work. Just respond to calls and fill out the reports. And now fearless reader is scheduled to arrive next week to fan the flames. Martial Law before the elections in November? We’ll see.

      • Libby says:

        “Local reports are that the Dallas P.D. will follow the path of Baltimore. No more pro-active police work. Just respond to calls and fill out the reports.”

        The hell you say. The Dallas Police Chief is an amazing fellow and will not permit it.

      • dewster says:

        you are way off base on Balt police. In fact there are FBI Drones over the city collecting data often. Balt police racially profile using City Stat software and broken windows policing. That is one corrupt city.

    • Dewster says:

      Clearly the Pie has spoiled

  7. Tina says:

    Addenda to my comments above. Local communities must take the lead to create conditions of decency and civility in their communities. That’s the spiritual side. But in terms of education and jobs, until they reject the dependency model offered by the Democrat Party and embrace independence and upward mobility as their model even spiritual and moral change will not solve all of the problem.

  8. Dewster says:

    No Tina we need to cut all this Bull Propaganda that is no more than Austerity and class Divide Model.

    Next up why the Billionaires need more tax cuts at the peril of the 99?

    • Tina says:

      Dewey you have offered not one single solution to job creation.

      You have not offered one single solution to cut growing debt.

      You have offered not one single path to upward mobility for the poor and newly poor that have fallen out of the middle class.

      You have not shown how the poor create jobs.

      You have no solutions, only complaints, and not very educated complaints at that!

      Now…explain, Mr. Smartypants how Dewey would rush in to save the day and fix this MESS.

      Clue number one: Tax cuts for the wealthy DO NOT imperil the 99.

      When was the last time you asked a poor man for a job?

      When did a poor mans pennies create thousands of jobs?

      Where does the cash investment for new business and new jobs come from?

      I assure you it isn’t the lower and lower middle classes.

      Class envy and policies oppressing investment in America have created sustained recession/depression over the last seven years…and all of the misery that goes with it!

      The people know it too; they live it every day.

  9. dewster says:

    Tina You know Our Platform it is all laid out.

    You have not offered any of the above in your platform. Furthermore you attack the poor? You call poverty slave jobs created by those who hoard the profits JOBS? You have no Idea what the country is like , Chico is a bubble.

    Your world is one where people are enslaved to the elite for a Job? Where they live in poverty? Debt Slaves?

    Do not give people the power to become entrepreneurs? Afford an education that empowers their economic success?

    You are a Fascist plain and simple. Where did Apple start? In a garage!

    Failed Conservative Policies are destroying America.

    Plain and simple, and that’s a fact.

    “Are there any Conservative Policies that have not failed America?

    Deregulation:
    Deregulation of airlines?
    Billion dollar bailouts, reduced services, reduced number of flights; they’re failing.

    Deregulation of the Finance industry?
    Billion dollar bail outs, national insolvency, foreclosures, fraud; they’re failing.

    Deregulation of Media?
    No public responsibility, hack journalism, rising cost and reduced base packages, an assault on the internet; they’re failing.

    Privatization:
    Privatization of Military Services?
    Creating a mercenary military and lucrative defense contracts have created a market for war that is being leveraged to the hilt in order to keep our nation afloat economically. War for Profit.

    Voluntary Regulation:
    Is there anybody that believes that multibillion dollar corporations are going to volunteer to surrender their profits for the good of Americans?

    Free Trade:
    NAFTA, GATT and WTO rules have destroyed our ability to make things and to protect ourselves and are in the process of destroying our ability to function as first world nation. We are being robbed of our ability to live as jobs are outsourced, offshored and wages are depressed due to a lack of respect for work. We are in a race to the bottom. Free Trade is nothing but newspeak for Cheap Labor.

    Healthcare for Profit:
    Healthcare for profit is extortion, plain and simple. Don’t have healthcare and get sick, you die – your children die. What would you pay to keep your kids alive?

    Millions of Americans still have no access to healthcare. But the ACA covered many more than before

    Seriously, are there any Conservative Policies that have not failed America?”

    we will create new business and the former US companies who take profits out of the country can die for all we care.

    you are in the minority on the government dole. We pay for your healthcare.

    Read the platform. Instead of welfare for corporations who rake in millions in profits how about we rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. It’s time and it will boost us to the next level.

    Wall Street runs us to the ground and we are racing to the bottom while their riches grow exponentially faster than ever

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