There are relatively few clear instances where we can point the finger of blame at the president of the United States and have a massive “I told you so moment.” Obamacare is one such instance. In 2017 premiums are going up about 23%, plan choices are fewer, insurance companies are withdrawing because not enough healthy people are signing up. Insurance companies are losing money on Obamacare and we’re down to only 53 companies participating, a drop of over 30%.
Two words, epic fail, come to mind when I think of Obamacare. And voters were warned it would fail, the evidence was presented by republicans and independents. But, too many voters rejected it or did not take the time to investigate the facts for themselves.
Democrats in Congress and the Senate backed Obama despite all the evidence that it would not work. They knew, or should have known, it was not cost effective and would eventually fail. The creators of this plant knew it would not increase healthcare choices, would not save a family of four $2500 a year and it would certainly not improve the quality of care for the average American. But, they pushed it anyway because the real goal, the hidden agenda, was a single payer – socialized medicine and complete government control.
Right out of the gate, the proponents knew this was a massive loser, and so many false claims had to be made to pass it. One of the key architects of Obamacare, Jonathan Gruber, was caught on camera admitting to the deceit! ”Yeah, We lied to the “Stupid” American people to get it passed,” says Gruber.
What sort of charlatans would pass a loser like Obamacare and call it a winner? Well, that’s easy, every democrat in both houses and the worst president in the history of the United States. And ironically voters are ready to re-elect many of them! lol Doubling down on stupid does not get us above stupid…it’s like zero times zero is still zero no matter how many times you do it.
Oh, if I were King, and be glad I’m not because heads would roll! I would suspend the democratic party for massive criminal conduct.
These underhanded people should be ashamed, but you won’t hear any of them admitting they were wrong. They deserve to be held accountable for passing something that was so awful, so fraudulent and so costly it has deeply hurt America, but they won’t, because ultimately this part is left to the voters.
Nov 8th we shall use the power of the vote! But, the cynical me thinks, millions of dead people, illegal aliens, ex-cons, mental patients, and other recently registered democrats will cast a ballot that will totally undermine yours. All your responsible due diligence will count for nothing. 2017 will be the same as 2016, which was the same as 2015, which was the same as….
it was said the premiums would go up.
now explain to me what Obamacare is cause people seem to think it is a healthcare policy to which it is not.
The states that did not join and GOP wanted to make it not work so here we have it. it was a wedge. A path to stop the bleeding. They were suppose to work on it and make it better.
Before people were thrown off their healthcare the minute they got sick for preexisting. Diabetes tests, anything to not pay for costly surgery ect. Even a pregnancy was considered preexisting condition.
So let us have a discussion. let us include the prices of drugs in the USA.
Of course those on socialist healthcare like medicare and vets programs shall not be included. They are on the gov dole.
Let us discuss this.
Oh yea could you please provide the proof of the millions of dead people, illegal aliens registered to vote. Real proof not some bloggers accusations.
“…it was said the premiums would go up.”
President Obama went around the country telling people he would reduce premiums by an average $2500.00 per family per year.
Nancy Pelosi lectured that the law was “affordable.”
This was one of many lies Democrats floated to get support for Obamacare.
You have to be dreaming, Dopey. Discuss your half-baked, twisted lies and incoherent convolutions about anything? First of all, you would NEVER enter into a discussion. You constantly run away from your idiotic and false assertions and when you do not, you argue like a Pakled. “I am smart, you are stupid.” So case closed.
Second, you truly are a demented, sociopathic nutcase who thinks he is God’s gift to the world. What person in their right mind would “discuss” anything with a self-aggrandizing troll like you?
Here ya go. Let’s start with this email. It kind of explains what is really happening. Insurance companies are crooks. They find a way to gouge and they will.
HRC, insurance premium increases, and ObamaCare, NY Times story
Date: 2015-07-04 21:08
Subject: HRC, insurance premium increases, and ObamaCare, NY Times story
John, if insurers and/or insurance commissioners push for price increases of 20%
to 40% for premiums now that the Supremes have upheld the subsidy, HRC would
be well advised to immediately and publicly threaten not to do this. And at a minimum
support the public option. The subsidies were not created to subsidize huge premium
increases once they were upheld by the court. This becomes a de facto taxpayer
financed bailout through subsidies that insurers exploit to gouge customers claiming
ObamaCare as the reason.
If the NYT story is correct about huge premium increases—-and I believe it is—HRC does not want to be in the position of defending ObamaCare during huge premium increases while Bernie Sanders (correctly in my view) pushes single payer and liberals
in Congress and nationally go ballistic—as they should, and I will—about insurer abuse—while Republicans charge—not incorrectly if it happens—that ObamaCare
caused these premium increases.
Premium increases are so politically deadly because they affect so many people, so
deeply, and so visibly to them. HRC should IMO speak loudly, clearly, aggressively
and quickly about this. Brent”
Democrats didn’t keep their promises to the insurance companies either but I have little sympathy for a group that dug it’s own grave and should have known better!
Democrats made a deal with the big health insurers. They promised that Obamacare would be so terrific that millions of young healthy people would rush to sign up. That didn’t happen. Instead, it was such a lousy deal, healthy young people chose to pay the fine instead. At the same time, most of those people who did sign up were much sicker than expected. The result was that costs skyrocketed while expected revenues failed to materialize. Losses have now become unsustainable. In April 2016 The Hill reported:
Please note the insurance companies have to get “permission” to raise rates.
Also please note that any increases in government subsidies will be paid by taxpayers…government has no money that it doesn’t take from the people.
A single payer system will create a monopoly controlled by the same people that put Obamacare together…and gave us Medicare one of the main drivers of our out of control debt.
Free market competition with minimal regulation is the way to bring down costs for both premiums and healthcare. Unfortunately politicians are easily lobbied and human nature demands the easy path.
Writing for Mises in 2013, Mike Holly explains how regulations (Obamacare has thousands of pages) make healthcare expensive:
It’s a very good paper, long, but well worth the read if you want to begin to understand how government involvement works against the people. When it bends to greedy demands of big corporations instead of looking out for the people we all lose as big insurance is now discovering.
Government has shown itself to be stupid again and again, repeating the same mistakes over and over while hoping for a better result.
But we can’t keep blaming politicians when we are the ones who elect them.
The fundamental underlying problem seems to be ignorance within the populace. If our citizens better understood how things work they wouldn’t let corrupted politicians buy and bamboozle them. They would also be in a better position to elect leaders that understand the importance of competition and the limited, though important role they play in protecting the people from such incursions into our freedoms and choices.
I defended GWB’s part D insurance because it contained market forces that helped to keep costs down, an improvement in the status quo. However, my position since this first became an issue in the seventies has been to get the federal government OUT of the healthcare business. Such an idea requires an alternate plan that includes assurances for those who have already spent a lifetime paying into Medicare under duress. The big win for the people, especially young people, would be worth ridding ourselves of the crushing weight of government involvement.
In California Kaiser Permanente’s profits plummet nearly 40 percent in 2015…Kaiser is a nonprofit!
UnitedHealth expects to lose nearly $1 billion on Obamacare…one of Obamacare’s biggest insurers.
Obamacare patients sicker and pricier than expected:
How much suffering must the people endure before we have the good sense to toss out the creators and promoters of this unworkable, expensive debacle which so accurately epitomizes the mind set of the Democrat leadership?
Look around people…everything this administration, and the Democrats in Congress, have touched has turned to excrement. We the people, as always, are paying a very high price.
Being corrupt, big fat liars is a Democrat tradition. Here we go again —
We Need to Clean This Up
The truly weird and shocking thing is that the NYT carries this story and gives the appearance of actually doing their job. Maybe the writing is on the wall?
”Yeah, We lied to the “Stupid” American people to get it passed,” says Gruber.
Even when the elite of their party call them “stupid” for falling for the lies they continue to vote for these people…and they continue to believe the lies they tell about their opponents as well!
How do they justify this blindness to things that are happening before their very eyes!?!!
Speaking of health care, this dentist deserves to be forced to give up his arms to gun control which will make all law abiding citizens safer —
Suspect on PCP Terrorizes Houston Dentist Office and Gets Shot
Will you give it up? There is no quantity of dead Republican Chicagoans that might turn this election. (Think about this now.)
You really need to get a grip.
We USED to have the greatest healthcare system in the world until the Demwits infected the country with Obumblecare and screwed it up.
Remember the hue and cry a couple of years ago when individuals had to have their insurance cancelled in favor of Obumblecare? Employers were also supposed to have to cancel existing healthcare plans in October – just before the last election – and Obumble “waived” that requirement.
The employer cancellation is still in the law – it just was “waived” for political reasons. Unfortunately, Obumble and the Demwits can’t “waive” the coming increa$e$ in premium$ and hopefully they’ll pay a price for their arrogance and chicanery on November 8th.
“We USED to have the greatest healthcare system in the world ….”
Liar … or deluded? Deluded … or big, fat liar?
Before the ACA 20 million Americans had no insurance at all. So how about you go soak your head … cause I am just … up to here … with these blatant misrepresentations of fact.
The law did not really fix that problem, Libby. There are still many Americans living without insurance:
How about you pull your head out! Believe me, we are not only up to here with “blatant misrepresentations of fact” but also absolutely livid that you and your lot created a very destructive “fix” that is costing taxpayers billions every year:
And that’s just the subsidy expense. This monster law has created a new federal bureaucracy. It’s increased the amount of time doctors, nurses and hospitals spend on paperwork instead of patient care.
The problems that needed to be addressed could have been addressed without creating this monstrous law. Adding insult to injury you lot have also failed to create conditions for a strong recovery.
“The law did not really fix that problem, Libby.”
Of course, it didn’t. But it was as much as the O-man could get through the bloody Congress. Single payer … with fix the problem. Everybody pays out of their taxes, and everybody feeds at the common trough. Unhappily, there are a number of people in this country who consider themselves superior to such an arrangement. They are very selfish.
Libby could certainly earn some extra $$ by renting out the space between her ears as storage.
HAS to be empty given some of her spews here!