Illegal Aliens $27 Million, Gold Star Kids Zip

By Pie Guevara

I was going to leave this for part of a Friday Free-For-All but Joe brought it up in a comment and so I decided to address it now.

Last Tuesday New York state Democrats granted $27 million dollars for illegal alien college tuition and rejected to allocate more money to a $2.7 million program that helps students related to or dependent on disabled and deceased combat veterans to pay college tuition.

Now, to be fair, some Democrats did not oppose the bill to add a few hundred thousand to the Gold Star families tuition program, but even if the bill had passed, what message is sent? Well, duh. Democrats care more about illegal aliens than they do their own citizens. Even the families of citizens who have sacrificed life and limb for this country.

“We set aside $27 million dollars for college for people that are here illegally…apparently $2.7 million is all that the families of soldiers who are killed, get. If you’re a child of a fallen soldier, you do not rank as high and you know that by the money,” observed Republican state Sen. Robert Ortt, who sponsored the proposed additional funding for the Gold Star tuition program.

Federal law (US Code 1623) states that anyone who is not legally a citizen cannot be entitled to any benefit that is denied to a citizen of the United States. Citing this law recently the Eleventh Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals ruled that colleges in Georgia are not required to admit illegal immigrant students.

But hey, since when did any federal statute keep Democrats from violating federal law? Democrats will do whatever they please and federal statutes (or The Constitution for that matter) be damned.

As long as corrupt Democrat machines that control states like New York, New Jersey, Illinois and California put illegal aliens before their own countrymen, this country is going to be screwed, royally. Suck it up, kids.

OK, now I am going to go back to watching Clark Gable and Claudette Colbert in Frank Capra’s often hilarious film “It Happened One Night.” Here is a clip —

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24 Responses to Illegal Aliens $27 Million, Gold Star Kids Zip

  1. Chris says:

    The headline is a lie, as is made clear even by the text of the article—Gold Star kids aren’t getting “zip.” There is already a program designed to help them. The bill proposing an expansion to that program would have expanded the definition of Gold Star family to include family members of military veterans who died outside combat zones (something I don’t have a problem with). And apparently it was rejected because it not consider the impact on the state budget. This article is very informative and paints the situation in a much more complex light:

    This whole thing seems like propaganda designed to pit children of illegal immigrants against vets. It’s shameless scapegoating, blaming illegal immigrants for all our country’s problems. Historically, that kind of thing never ends well. I urge you to stop it. The

  2. Pie Guevara says:

    Re: “The headline is a lie, as is made clear even by the text of the article—Gold Star kids aren’t getting “zip.”

    Post Scripts’ premier anal-retentive troll is upset! You can tell when he is upset, he calls people with whom he disagrees liars. 😀

    The bill to supply additional funds to the Gold Star family tuition program was rejected. While illegal aliens were granted $27 million, Gold Star kids got zip. What part of that do you not understand you silly ass? That is what the headline is all about and what I wrote about you ridiculous moron. It is right there in the post! How much clearer could that be? You have a problem with that? HAH! I stand by my headline, it is no “lie” you idiot.

    From the “Sheesh, What a Dope Department”: No one (and certainly not me) is “blaming” illegal aliens or trying to “scapegoat” them you unbelievably stupid and obtuse schoolyard brat. This is about the Democrat controlled New York State Assembly and what their priorities are. This is about what priorities are to a majority of Democrats.

    $27 million to illegal aliens, $2.7 million to Gold Star families. The numbers speak for themselves. It really isn’t anymore complex than that. But you and your ilk go ahead championing tuition for illegal aliens and taking a crap on Gold Star families! That is a winning formula for 2020!

    • Chris says:

      The bill to supply additional funds to the Gold Star family tuition program was rejected. While illegal aliens were granted $27 million, Gold Star kids got zip. What part of that do you not understand you silly ass?

      The part where “Gold Star kids get zip” is directly contradicted by what you wrote right after it:

      $27 million to illegal aliens, $2.7 million to Gold Star families.

      2.7 million is not “zip.” Your headline implies that there is no program to help God Star kids, or that this program is opposed by Dems. That is not true.

      You also show zero interest in determining the Dems’ real reason for opposing the expansion of the Gold Star program. You are too invested in assuming the Dems don’t care about vets (when Dems have traditionally done more to fund programs to take care of the families of vets than Republicans have). If you weren’t invested in scapegoating illegal immigrants, you would look into the actual reasons why this expansion was opposed.

      • Pie Guevara says:

        This complaint from Chris is so asinine it does not warrant a response other than to say it is asinine. But what the heck, I’ll give it one more shot to this (deliberately?) obtuse clown.

        Chris thinks giving $27 million to illegal aliens and refusing to give further assistance to a pathetic $2.7 million Gold Star family tuition program is justifiable and reasonable. Democrats (and Chris) may try to obscure this with convoluted “complex” excuses which are actually garbage horsesh*t that attempts to cover their pathetic patoots.

        Moreover, some Democrats saw through the horsesh*t and objected to stiffing Gold Star families while granting such largess to illegal aliens.

        It is all about priorities, folks, and it is pretty obvious where Chris’ and the “progressive” Democrat machine controlled New York State Assembly’s priorities are.

        • Chris says:

          Chris thinks giving $27 million to illegal aliens and refusing to give further assistance to a pathetic $2.7 million Gold Star family tuition program is justifiable and reasonable.

          It would be impossible for a critical thinker to tell whether this is justifiable and reasonable based only on the factors you have presented here.

          A critical thinker would ask questions like:

          1) What is the need of the respective populations being serviced by these two programs?
          2) Where is this money coming from? Are these programs funded by different budgets?
          3) What were the stated reasons for opposing the expansion of the Gold Star program, and do those reasons apply or not apply to the program for Dreamers?
          4) Who exactly is helped by each of these respective programs? How are Dreamers defined? How are Gold Star families defined?

          I gave you a link that addressed some of these questions. You showed zero interest in addressing it, because the answers might get in the way of your narrative. You want the simplest, most bias-confirming answer possible: “Dems care more about illegals than vets!” and anyone who dares to question that narrative is a threat to the sense of well-being you get from clinging to it.

          • Pie Guevara says:

            Wherein Chris instructs me on “critical thinking!”

            Nice try at a deflection and spin, Sparky. I side with Democrats who supported the bill. They had good very good reasons to support it and so did the Republican who proposed it. I examined the publication, it is a gobbledygook of politically motivated excuses posing as analysis. Take your precious link and stick it where the sun don’t shine.

            Is anyone else besides me laughing at this arrogant ass?

            Tell me Chris, does your mother know what an unabashed, arrogant little creep you are? Does your wife? Do your poor students?

            Nevertheless, it is at least mildly amusing when Chris goes on the strut, after all, insult, condescension and self-aggrandizement is his forte. This is what passes for debate on Planet Chris. Chris is a god, everyone else — especially those who disagree with him — are thoughtless, non-critical thinking slobs.

            Just remember kids, $27 MILLION TO ILLEGAL ALIENS, zip added to the $2.7 million Gold Star Family program. Chris’ and priorities of the New York State Assembly Democrats are pretty clear.

            Nuff said.

          • Chris says:

            So you’re saying the list of critical thinking questions I provided you are irrelevant?

        • Cherokee Jack says:

          Give it up, Pie. Who do you think you are, Dr. Doolittle?

    • J Soden says:

      APPLAUSE for Pie!!!!!!

      • Peggy says:

        Standing ovation, Pie!!

        Exposed his inability to grasp a simple concept one of his students should have been able to. What’s funny is he still doesn’t get it and if he did he’d never admit it.

        • Chris says:

          I would expect my students to generate critical thinking questions as they read the article, not jump to the easiest and most emotionally satisfying conclusion possible. You and Pie clearly prefer the latter route.

          • Post Scripts says:

            Chris, you brought up the subject of critical thinking. That’s a great subject we should explore more sometime. However, for a teacher to be able to instruct their students in the art of critical thinking, that’s outstanding and only the best teachers can do it. I think teaching [critical thinking] is probably the most honorable and worthwhile thing any teacher could do.

            Critical thinking…the awakening of the intellect to the study of itself. Or as Martin Luther King once said, “The function of education is to teach one to think intensively and to think critically. Intelligence plus character – that is the goal of true education.” If this is truly your goal I wish you much success.

          • Chris says:

            Thanks, Jack.

  3. Pie Guevara says:

    Re J. Soden’s link to Sanctuary Cities Welcome Illegal Aliens with ‘Open Arms’ While 38K American Veterans Remain Homeless

    Brilliant piece exposing the left’s lunatic hypocrisy and crass political maneuvering.

    I find these bits particularly poignant —

    Sanctuary city New York City’s Mayor Bill de Blasio originally blasted Trump for the plan, claiming the president was using illegal aliens as “chess pieces,” but he then advocated for giving illegal aliens driver’s licenses in order to attract more illegal aliens to the state.

    “Undocumented immigrants are our neighbors and part of the backbone of our economy,” de Blasio wrote online. “It’s mind-boggling that they aren’t allowed to have driver’s licenses in New York State.”

    In total, there are more than 550,000 American residents who are homeless nationwide. Meanwhile, the U.S. admits more than 1.5 million illegal and legal immigrants every year — the overwhelming majority of which are low skilled workers who compete for jobs against America’s poor, working, and middle class.

    Yes, mind-boggling are the priorities of Democrats who favor “undocumented” immigrants — that is alien criminals who have flouted and violated our immigration laws and have come here ILLEGALLY — over their own citizens.

    That is it in a nutshell. Definitely a winner for 2020.

  4. Pie Guevara says:

    Re Chris: “So you’re saying the list of critical thinking questions I provided you are irrelevant?”

    No, I wasn’t saying that, but now that you bring it up, absolutely. Totally irrelevant. And as irrelevant as this latest idiotic comment from you. But thank you soooooo much for deigning to provide me with your list, oh great English major.

    Your “list” presumes that I did not read the report with a critical eye. I can assure you that I did and came to my own conclusions, sans instruction from a pompous ass like you proffering a list of questions as if this were some grade school class he was lording over.

    How clever you must think you are, Chris. You never fail to make me laugh with your rash excesses of condescension and arrogance. You must win a lot of friends with that behavior. I can’t help but wonder if your colleagues cringe when you enter the lunch room.

    Class dismissed.

    • Chris says:

      No one has ever read a Zero Hedge link with a “critical eye” and then shared that link.

      But please: share with the class the critical thinking questions you generated while you read it, since mine were so useless (in ways that you cannot explain).

      • Pie Guevara says:

        HAH! Chris attacks the messenger to attack me! Fallacy boy strikes again! Damn yer good at making a complete ass of yourself! 🙂

        Actually, Chris, to write the post I consulted several sources on this issue including, but no matter if Zero Hedge was one of them. The story is a valid one, the facts are the facts, and the sources I consulted do not get in the way of the facts, fallacy boy, including Zero Hedge whom you disdain.

        I also had come across and read through the link you posted to before I wrote my piece trying to understand why these odious Rats would deny additional tuition funding to Gold Star families while handing over $27 million to illegal aliens. It seemed so antithetical. But Rats are Rats and so it goes. That report from committee was bullsh*t excuse making for killing the bill. But of course, you haven’t the critical eye to see that as your are a good little progressive goose-stepper who believes everything the government says as long as it is Democrats running the show.

        As far as Zero Hedge goes, at least they are not as nearly as stupid you, dear boy. You should stick to dissing Fox News, a favorite target of every half-baked, puerile progressive cretin on the planet. So much so it has become a laughable cliché.

        Stick to the herd, group-think fallacy boy! You are better off.

        Sorry Cherokee, but I could not resist talking to the animal again. I just could not resist. It is like shooting fish in a barrel, not very sporting I know, but at least mildly amusing.

  5. Chris says:

    Instead of pitting vets against illegal immigrants, why don’t we join in expressing outrage over this story?

  6. Peggy says:

    DOJ update.

    New DOJ Report: 60,000 criminal illegal aliens are in federal custody at a staggering cost:

    “In an exclusive report on the The Ingraham Angle last evening (Fox News 10 P.M. E.T.), U.S. attorney Zachary Terwilliger broke major news about the DOJ’s brand new report on the number and costs of the incarceration of illegal aliens in federal custody. The segment, and the comments by Terwilliger, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, and Ingraham further expose the Left’s persistent lie that illegals in the U.S. commit additional crimes at a lower rate than U.S.-born citizens.

    Nearly 60,000 known or suspected illegal immigrants [sic] are being held in federal prisons, according to a report obtained by Fox News Tuesday from the Department of Justice.

    Quoting the report, he said “criminal aliens” make up 21 percent of those in the Federal Bureau of Prisons custody and 38 percent of those in Marshals custody.

    Terwilliger lamented that a “staggering” amount of resources are being diverted to fighting illegal immigration at the expense other problems like a rising opioid epidemic and rising crime rates in certain areas.

    The report, it should be noted, does not include illegals who are in jails and prisons at the state and local levels — a number that is “significantly greater,” according to Ingraham, than the number of criminal illegal aliens in federal custody.

    The report, it should be noted, does not include illegals who are in jails and prisons at the state and local levels — a number that is “significantly greater,” according to Ingraham, than the number of criminal illegal aliens in federal custody.

    Terwilliger said the next report from the DOJ on the problem should address the financial cost to the federal government of dealing with illegal alien criminals. He estimated, however, that the cost of the U.S. Marshals Service having to deal with illegals (who are in custody awaiting trial, for example) is $500 million a year, which does not include the costs due to illegal aliens incurred by the U.S. Bureau of Prisons.”

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